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AdemTheDestroyer
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia47 Posts
January 21 2009 09:30 GMT
#1
My and my internet buddy just played a game of WC3 and he enjoyed it. he says he wants to know what this starcraft business is all about.

Whats a really interesting game that will get him hooked? bearing in mind he has no idea about the mechanics of starcraft.

I am the Lizard King. I can do anything
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 21 2009 09:33 GMT
#2
On January 21 2009 18:30 AdemTheDestroyer wrote:
My and my internet buddy just played a game of WC3 and he enjoyed it. he says he wants to know what this starcraft business is all about.

Whats a really interesting game that will get him hooked? bearing in mind he has no idea about the mechanics of starcraft.

Show him boxer
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
January 21 2009 09:39 GMT
#3
On January 21 2009 18:33 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 18:30 AdemTheDestroyer wrote:
My and my internet buddy just played a game of WC3 and he enjoyed it. he says he wants to know what this starcraft business is all about.

Whats a really interesting game that will get him hooked? bearing in mind he has no idea about the mechanics of starcraft.

Show him boxer


Na, save it. He needs to see how hard it is to have any appreciation for boxer. Just play some games with him. He will either like it or not... can't really make it more interesting. The depth and competition of the game is what makes the online play timeless.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 21 2009 10:05 GMT
#4
you need to know how hard it is to have appreciation for mechanical players
flashy cheesy players like boxer are perfect for beginners.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
January 21 2009 11:21 GMT
#5
Any prior experiences with gaming (especially RTS) outside of his recent endeavor into WC3?
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 21 2009 12:09 GMT
#6
On January 21 2009 19:05 IdrA wrote:
you need to know how hard it is to have appreciation for mechanical players
flashy cheesy players like boxer are perfect for beginners.

dats racist
AdemTheDestroyer
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia47 Posts
January 21 2009 12:12 GMT
#7
he plays dota?
I am the Lizard King. I can do anything
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 21 2009 12:15 GMT
#8
Just play a few fungames with him on special maps and vs computers maybe?

Then show im pimpest plays and Boxer.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
January 21 2009 12:24 GMT
#9
Show him cute micro like marine dodging spines video clip. Show him reaver shuttle. Show him tank dropship play. Who vulture mining around goons.

And mainly show examples were Korean commentators go nuts about it.
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 13:29:26
January 21 2009 13:28 GMT
#10
I really don't think showing him vids of the pros at the start is a good idea. If you don't understand the game and the culture, these videos are, well... boring. They have to actually play around with the game a bit, understand it, grow to enjoy it, and appreciate how difficult it is. THEN, when they have interest and respect for the game you show them the very highest levels of play and blow their minds.
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
January 21 2009 13:50 GMT
#11
On January 21 2009 22:28 3clipse wrote:
I really don't think showing him vids of the pros at the start is a good idea. If you don't understand the game and the culture, these videos are, well... boring. They have to actually play around with the game a bit, understand it, grow to enjoy it, and appreciate how difficult it is. THEN, when they have interest and respect for the game you show them the very highest levels of play and blow their minds.


dumbass
One must feel chaos within, to give birth to a dancing star.
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
January 21 2009 14:15 GMT
#12
On January 21 2009 22:50 drug_vict1m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 22:28 3clipse wrote:
I really don't think showing him vids of the pros at the start is a good idea. If you don't understand the game and the culture, these videos are, well... boring. They have to actually play around with the game a bit, understand it, grow to enjoy it, and appreciate how difficult it is. THEN, when they have interest and respect for the game you show them the very highest levels of play and blow their minds.


dumbass


I agree with him.

Just play with him. Do some 2v2 comp stomps and just protect him while he explores the game. Don't show him some fast paced pro-game that he won't care about or understand, all he will see is a bunch of foreign video game units moving around the screen and dying.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2009 14:24 GMT
#13
On January 21 2009 22:50 drug_vict1m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 22:28 3clipse wrote:
I really don't think showing him vids of the pros at the start is a good idea. If you don't understand the game and the culture, these videos are, well... boring. They have to actually play around with the game a bit, understand it, grow to enjoy it, and appreciate how difficult it is. THEN, when they have interest and respect for the game you show them the very highest levels of play and blow their minds.


dumbass


Don't post like that : /

Unnecessary flaming should always be avoided.
RIP Aaliyah
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
January 21 2009 14:24 GMT
#14
well my opinion is based on my experience and being a total noob at sc i enjoyed and loved all the vids.this one became my first love

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=PmZG_081hQo
One must feel chaos within, to give birth to a dancing star.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2009 14:29 GMT
#15
On January 21 2009 23:24 drug_vict1m wrote:
well my opinion is based on my experience and being a total noob at sc i enjoyed and loved all the vids.this one became my first love

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=PmZG_081hQo


It's fine to have an opinion, but calling someone a dumbass with no reason or rational basis as to why you did isn't acceptable.

Come on. You could have just said your experience and showed that video or something.
RIP Aaliyah
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
January 21 2009 15:16 GMT
#16
Why couldn't you just say "I disagree" post said video and explained why you disagree instead of just chiming in "dumbass" ?

That's, ironically, kinda dumb to do.

First I would make him understand the very basics, like what unit does what, how the costs are, a basic idea about what's good and what isn't (he really doesn't need to know how to 9pool or shit, just that despite BCs are fat and expensive, they don't rape the whole map). Then I would make him sit next to you while you play (always blows my friends' [who know SC a bit on the noobie level] mind away, but then again I'm B- (not a huge feat but it can look flashy )). That should make them feel ready when you tell them "In South Korea, despite how pimp I looked, I would be next to nothing" and prompt him to some highlight videos.
Complete the cycle!
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
January 21 2009 15:38 GMT
#17
Let him figure out the style that each race entails, and let him play as all three.

Once he's picked a race that he loves he'll love the game. For instance, thinking about SC in general is like "meh" for me, but ZvZ is an instant hard-on
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 16:05:43
January 21 2009 16:03 GMT
#18
NOTE: It is very important you DO NOT own him if you ever play against him.

This PISSES them off a lot t.t

edit: if you ever play against him, give him long games. If you ever beat him with cheese he will think he can't even touch you, but if you give him long games, he will feel he could've won the game and try again harder, he'll then see you as his rival and try to learn the game as much as he can till he beats you and feels like the king of SC...

Then he plays against a B+ on icc XD
ZerglingShepherd
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada99 Posts
January 21 2009 17:42 GMT
#19
Show him some micro-intense videos after he's become familiar with the units, as well as the huge stadiums packed full of spectators, and commentators going nuts. Watching TvZ is what got me hooked on SC. Even back when I didn't really understand it, watching formations of mnm facing off against masses of ling+lurk was pretty self-explanatory. Or highlight videos of some cute micro (spine dodging, dragoon dancing, etc).

After he gets an idea of what's possible, let him play a few games, otherwise he'll probably get bored if you just tell him to go play it. But go super easy on him. The biggest discouragement for beginners is not having anyone their own level to play against.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 21 2009 18:16 GMT
#20
On January 21 2009 22:50 drug_vict1m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 22:28 3clipse wrote:
I really don't think showing him vids of the pros at the start is a good idea. If you don't understand the game and the culture, these videos are, well... boring. They have to actually play around with the game a bit, understand it, grow to enjoy it, and appreciate how difficult it is. THEN, when they have interest and respect for the game you show them the very highest levels of play and blow their minds.


dumbass

If you don't understand the game then you can't appreciate these plays, and so you won't enjoy it.

Dumbass.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
January 21 2009 18:58 GMT
#21
Show him this video! It's highlights from 2005 pro league/osl etc. This was the first video (besides the boxer scv rush vs yellow) that really got me into starcraft. This is probably the most epic of all sc videos imo, the music is great and the plays are just incredible.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1b4yrJ_MnFI&feature=channel_page

It's just so frigging sweet.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 21 2009 19:43 GMT
#22
play dota
it's more active and fun.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 19:59:45
January 21 2009 19:59 GMT
#23
Don't play dota, that's how you throw all your talent to the trash pit

edit: unless you get nuked a million times
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