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It's funny.
Recently met someone who knows SC, and has played it for as long as I do (1998). So then I asked him how good he is, and he said "not very but not terrible either". I asked if he knows this website - he said no. I asked if he knows about Korean SC progaming - he said "yeah, those guys are so crazy, they even memorize the hotkeys and use mostly the keyboard"
... and I was just like "lol" - because yes, he really uses the mouse to click on "attack", "stop" etc.
And then he thinks he's not terrible.  But he hasn't played on BattleNet for years (and isn't interested in it anymore), so I guess it's just in comparison to friends. We didn't follow that topic anymore then.
But yeah, it's funny... bad players often have no idea what skills are required to be at least an average player, and how skilled the best players are... they don't have this overview, so anything they say about skill is probably false. And I guess this type of player is also the most likely to accuse you of hacking in pub games.
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On January 17 2009 14:10 Grobyc wrote:
Meh. It's a little the opposite for me. I don't exactly care if gamers talk about games a little but when you are near one or with one or something, and the first thing they always bring up is a video game, I'm like "dude wtf, that's all you talk about.". When there is a silence they will start talking about video games, and when I leave to say bye or something they are like "dude when you get home you should go buy WoW and play it with me!!!1!11!!!" THEN it pisses me off. Seriously, it seems like they have no life.
Yeah this one shits me to no fucking end as well. My friends know I play computer games, but they have no idea which ones, they dont know that proffessional startcraft exists. This is not because I try to hide it, its just not something we talk about.
Then I meet some guy who I havent seen for years on the train or something, and hes like Hey, havent seen you since high school, have you played the new age of empires game? Just wanna punch the guy in the head.
The only thing that annoys me about casual gamers is that their entire gaming experience revolves around the graphics. They'll be like, yeah that game was fricken awsome, did you see the graphics on it? And of course they are talking about a game with the gameplay depth of a paddling pool. And if wasnt made within the last 2 years, it must be a bad game...
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Washington, D.C9933 Posts
games are for fun
most people probably play for a different reason, which is fine. but keep in mind that you're the exception, and really if anything people should be putting up with your focus on winning.
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On January 17 2009 13:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I get annoyed when competitive/tournament level gamers want to ruin everyone else's fun by turning a fun hobby like games into an X-treme sport.
People play games to have fun, why should you be pissed off about that? No one gives a shit if you're good at video games if you can't even have fun with it. Like when I play SSBM with some friends who play in tournaments and suddenly I'm a faggot because I like to use items.
Games aren't always about winning and have the biggest digital penis.
I agree Doc.
I used to play competitive CS which became really repetitive after a while and I became really bored with the whole idea of CS, but then I played in public servers with friends from school who sucked hardcore and played non-competitive maps aka "fun maps" and I guess that really brought life back into the game for me.
: ))
So.. yeah don't hate on the people who are just playing for fun.
edit: yes i'm talking about you, linkin_pork and saxy.
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I can play at a fairly competitive level in a lot of FPS games (except SC rofl) and still have a lot of fun. Usually, playing a scrim/match with a team makes a game 10 times more fun.
There is definitely a borderline between casual and competitive, but everyone still plays for different reasons.
I laugh at some of the funny comments that some casual gamers make, but it's not too much to get riled up about. Starting an argument about it would look retarded (and I'm sure no one here does, I'm just saying). It's just a fun hobby, and like you said, you should be happy that more people are becoming involved with it.
On January 17 2009 17:24 Fen wrote:
The only thing that annoys me about casual gamers is that their entire gaming experience revolves around the graphics. They'll be like, yeah that game was fricken awsome, did you see the graphics on it? And of course they are talking about a game with the gameplay depth of a paddling pool. And if wasnt made within the last 2 years, it must be a bad game...
I always feel like facepalming whenever people just talk about a game's graphics. Crysis immediately comes to mind... man, that game failed.
It's funny seeing people complain about low framerates in FPS games when they're just setting every possible graphical setting to high, and saying the game looks like crap if they lower anything. I've come by a lot of people who talk complain about this.
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I don't generally have problems with casual gamers talking about "HEHEHE I MASS 30000 CARRIERS AND KILL EVERYTHING HEHE" They are annoying at times, but only when they speak too highly of themselves. That's when you just win them and laugh at their claims of beating you with 600000 bc's.
And like Fen said, the people who play a game entirely for the graphics are the ones that really piss me off. You ask them: "why do you play that game?" and you get some lame response like "cause it's pretty!!" Pacman didn't have crysis-esque graphics and it was still heck of a fun game.
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Too bad "casual" gamers are the majority nowadays 
Anybody with half a brain can make something that is fun. Originality, balance, and depth are harder to come by, but are sadly not required and hardly ever seen by most people.
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Lol alot of people already summed up my thoughts about games being for fun but this one thing people ALWAYS do pisses me off.
My friends know I play starcraft so at every single goddamn opportunity (a few of them), they're always asking me "When is Starcraft II coming out?" Even when I say, "I don't know,"
or "Starcraft I is a perfect game" or "I'm not that interested in SCII" etc. etc. they keep asking me in a tone where Starcraft has become obsolete somehow and somehow its insta-buy once it comes out, with no care to how the game looks/plays/feels.
Damn. Okay I don't get that angry but it does get annoying.
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they'd die out in the wild.
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They are just excited about their hobby. Why would you care
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On January 17 2009 21:41 Tensai176 wrote:
Lol alot of people already summed up my thoughts about games being for fun but this one thing people ALWAYS do pisses me off.
My friends know I play starcraft so at every single goddamn opportunity (a few of them), they're always asking me "When is Starcraft II coming out?" Even when I say, "I don't know,"
or "Starcraft I is a perfect game" or "I'm not that interested in SCII" etc. etc. they keep asking me in a tone where Starcraft has become obsolete somehow and somehow its insta-buy once it comes out, with no care to how the game looks/plays/feels.
Damn. Okay I don't get that angry but it does get annoying.
SC2 is insta-buy since it's such a fun game to play.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Didnt we have this exact topic already --?
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Yeah. After 4 replies you said "Yeah, Blog, Closing" or similar. So here it is.
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I don't really hate casual gamers, because it allows me to own them. But I really hate how they have been tainting the gaming market, where companies try to accommodate for the casual gamers instead of competitive ones.
*AHEM* SCII + Brawl. Don't get me wrong, they're still fun, but... They could be better without casual gamers stealing some of the market.
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Katowice25012 Posts
i like to get angry about video games
chicks dig it
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Shouldnt games be fun first and foremost?
I dont get it. Lets just look at traditional sports, for every person that is member of a team and plays competitively there are many others that just play for fun. And if we think about it, there would be no profesional players if there were no casual fans to pay the tickets and get to the stadium or to watch the games on tv.
I beleive it is the same un videogames, without millions of casual gamers to buy the games, there would be no competitive games or casuals for that matter.
I think its elitist to consider yourself the superior gamer just because you play a game in a competitive manner while others dont.
Games are created to entertain people as their first objective, so i dont see much logic in bashing people for taking games not so seriously.
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Korea (South)11575 Posts
I could careless about the casual gamers, it's those who say they are hardcore gamers that piss me off. I had an argument with a friend a while back where he said that he just bought a new ultimate gaming keyboard. He plays WoW and is obsessing about how he's a huge hardcore gamer. Then he found out I played Starcraft and he watched me play a game, and said that I need to move on because its a old game, and not fun anymore.
God that pissed me off.
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On January 18 2009 02:07 CaucasianAsian wrote:
I could careless about the casual gamers, it's those who say they are hardcore gamers that piss me off. I had an argument with a friend a while back where he said that he just bought a new ultimate gaming keyboard. He plays WoW and is obsessing about how he's a huge hardcore gamer. Then he found out I played Starcraft and he watched me play a game, and said that I need to move on because its a old game, and not fun anymore.
God that pissed me off.
Haha I think new keyboards are kind of stupid. I went out of my way to buy the most generic standard keyboard possible, basically the closest replica to my 10 year old one...
When my friends watch me play SC they are like "wow he is so fast." Apparently 150 apm is scary to normal people.
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Korea (South)11575 Posts
Yeah, I have some friends who can't watch me play because watching my screen gives them headaches. 250 apm is like insane to them
I have a friend who wanted to watch me play starcraft (he used to play it) and after a game was over, he told me "You're moving too fast you need to concentrate on one thing at a time"
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