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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
December 11 2008 01:54 GMT
#1


@Second vid: Give it some time to process
This is a match I played on iccup. The Zerg player attempted to do a 2 hatch muta build. This video shows the importance of scouting. First I had to scout to see if he was going to play a more aggressive game or if his intentions were a macro long game. I scouted an agressive 9 pool+extractor build and he made 6 or 8 lings. I sent two probes to protect my ramp just in case he attempted to run up it. When he was attacking my scouting probe, he didn't have his lings speed upgraded. That meant he was going for some sort of tech build. That was confirmed when I scouted his spire. If I didn't scout his spire, I probably still would have put up cannons and tried to get that sair out as soon as possible. Knowing what the zerg is doing is power :O Knowledge is power O_o
When I saw the spire, I had to make sure that the zerg player wouldn't change tech so I had to make sure he was going to stick to his 2 hatch muta build. Also, when he did have his mutas out, I scouted that there was no hydra den yet so that meant this was an all-in muta build. If i stayed in my base, I probably was going to come out on top.
I also had to make sure that he wouldn't suprise me with putting up a quick hive and morphing those mutalisks to guardians while he had me pinned in my base. Instead he went for hydras, which I think was a very critical mistake. I think that was too gas intensive build for only having 2 gasses. He would only be able to make a limited number of mutalisks or hydras and not enough to be a complete threat to my army mix.
The zerg player lost because I was able to scout what he was doing and was able to counter him with the appropriate actions. If he tried to stop my scouting harder, I think he would have had a huge edge in this match. Also he had some scourges, about 4 or so when he was harassing me. That was also probably a waste of gas in anticipation for mass corsairs. He stopped making them at least when he saw I was going for archons. Also he didn't take a third base while he had me contained. I kept scouting for that, but there wasn't one so he was really planning on ending the game soon in either a win or a loss.


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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
December 11 2008 01:57 GMT
#2
Aww boo, the second video isnt up yet. what a cliff hanger T_T
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 11 2008 02:03 GMT
#3
why on earth does the second video take so long to load >.>
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
December 11 2008 02:42 GMT
#4
Is your intention to show off?
Hi.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
December 11 2008 02:47 GMT
#5
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


doubt it he had bad macro
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
December 11 2008 03:04 GMT
#6
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


On December 11 2008 11:47 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


doubt it he had bad macro


Let's all bash on each other non-stop so we can have bigger e-penises.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
December 11 2008 03:07 GMT
#7
On December 11 2008 12:04 Quesadilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


Show nested quote +
On December 11 2008 11:47 clazziquai wrote:
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


doubt it he had bad macro


Let's all bash on each other non-stop so we can have bigger e-penises.


it's true though...i'm not bashing
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
December 11 2008 03:13 GMT
#8
On December 11 2008 12:04 Quesadilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


Show nested quote +
On December 11 2008 11:47 clazziquai wrote:
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


doubt it he had bad macro


Let's all bash on each other non-stop so we can have bigger e-penises.


nice name, bitch.

anyways, i don't think he's trying to show off... he's just making videos. if you think he's trying to show off just don't watch them... ok
UNFUCK YOURSELF
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
December 11 2008 04:31 GMT
#9
i like amateur fpvods
if anyone has made their own pm me links pl0x
Peter[Deuce]
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States93 Posts
December 11 2008 05:56 GMT
#10
i liked the frantic mouse movements trying to click stuff
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
December 11 2008 11:37 GMT
#11
O_o Keep it cool guys. For me, making fpvods just helps me look at how i play and stuff and how i can improve myself. I guess its more of a self reflection of what i can do better.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 11 2008 11:59 GMT
#12
On December 11 2008 12:07 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2008 12:04 Quesadilla wrote:
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


On December 11 2008 11:47 clazziquai wrote:
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


doubt it he had bad macro


Let's all bash on each other non-stop so we can have bigger e-penises.


it's true though...i'm not bashing


lol yea and if you meet a mentally retarded person and call them a retard it's not bashing, it's just true
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
December 11 2008 12:29 GMT
#13
what a comparison O.o
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Makhno
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Sweden585 Posts
December 11 2008 14:18 GMT
#14
On December 11 2008 20:37 Racenilatr wrote:
O_o Keep it cool guys. For me, making fpvods just helps me look at how i play and stuff and how i can improve myself. I guess its more of a self reflection of what i can do better.


I think it's good that you upload them, it's always positive to see how someone else deals with a situation or how they play out a bo. I liked the previous, bo-specific ones better though.
"If I think, everything is lost"
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 11 2008 15:49 GMT
#15
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


I thought it was to play bad music while playing Starcraft while making others suffer through it.

Anyways, I don't really think gas is the limiting factor in switching from muta to hydra... it's minerals. I guess the first few upgrades cost a lot of gas, but they cost just as many minerals and if he only has two hatches that isn't many drones. Although the Zerg had three hatches by the time he got muta.... pretty weird build that he did.
eth0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada208 Posts
December 12 2008 01:09 GMT
#16
On December 11 2008 11:42 d(O.o)a wrote:
Is your intention to show off?


Is your intention to be a fucking douchebag?
Because he is Mantoss, the incarnation of masculinity and awesomeness.
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