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oh oh obama, baby!

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jellyfish
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States149 Posts
November 05 2008 08:07 GMT
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I'm a big lurker here ^^ but on the night of this election I've been swept up in the excitement...hehe.

omgah seriously all day I was having nightmares about what would happen would McCain to win...I guess I'm not really an Obama fan myself,

Yet as the results started streaming in and the polls showed Obama firmly stepping on McCain's face across the nation, I kind of came to feel sad. Because I wanted to see more drama, and the election was anti-climactic? Maybe. That's a testament, though, to the sort of effort Obama put in, the keen decisions Obama's strategists made for his image, and also the massive screw-ups McCain committed on the road to this night...

In any case, I do believe that what was best for our nation happened tonight. I'm looking forward to a bright four years, especially as the Democrats ride a wave of optimism into a firm Senate majority; at last, they've breached the Republican defenses, the ranks have been thinned to a line of stalwarts. And as the balance of power shifts, regardless of whether or not it has shifted towards the "right" or "wrong/left", the stale routines of Congress are broken, or at least enfeebled...

Obama has indeed brought change. Not necessarily because of his policies, his potential, or any of his other promises; rather, through the wishes and hopes the people of America have invested in him. Had McCain triumphed tonight, it would not just have been a triumph of McCain's policies and image over Obama's...it would have meant the jarring halt to the optimism for change that had been charging America, the final drawing of blood from an already pale visage...by matters of destiny we haven't yet comprehended, by cosmic design and human intervention, Obama was made President this day, November 4th, 2008.

Maybe it is only now that I truly comprehend the modern American political system. All this time I had slandered American politics for its falsity and fabrication I had really misunderstood its workings. Ideas and policies don't really matter, not in themselves. They are but flags to rally the people, whatever it takes to earn the hearts and minds of the people, to become the vessel for their dreams...So then the people do not elect a President; they empower him with a mandate to do his will, and the Presidency then becomes a matter of keeping that mandate in order to exercise free-est control over the country. But when a candidate has earned the respect and hopes of his people, when he thus ties himself to the heartbeat to the country, then, nevermind his policies and views, he has certainly earned the right to be President. And so it is with Obama. With his victory he carries into the White House a triumph of a nation, a momentum of will and motivation, and an American optimism.

The cheesy slogans on all the campaign ads are right: we can make a difference. But it is not just through the votes; that part is merely the finalization of what has already been decided. Rather, it is through the invisible and ineffable collection of our spirit, the emotional and spiritual tie we forge with a candidate, that we make the biggest difference. Without it, a candidate would not be legitimate, can never become a President. So I at last, condone all the emotionality, the electorate grabbing, the massive ads, the supposed manipulation that goes on...the votes are meaningless and the victory impure without the people's mandate.

So though I don't know whether or not I fully support Obama, and have no idea whether or not the next four years will be any better than the next one. All I know, and all that matters, is that Obama has convinced me of hope...and, grateful for this gift, I scrape up my optimisms, meagre as they are, as my contribution to America.

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United States12796 Posts
November 05 2008 08:44 GMT
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HahAH ur the pony maker!
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November 05 2008 08:56 GMT
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China115 Posts
November 05 2008 22:48 GMT
#6
I think the reality is a lot more cynical than that. I would love to believe Obama is what he says he is, just a coo guy, gonna make a difference, gonna make it righ. Gonna listen to other people and end up making only defensible choices.

It's not that I could have voted for McCain, or that my vote changed the election or anything. I just wish I had more of a choice. I wish I saw debates between two people who made some sense and made some attempt to look like an honest human being hocking their best ideas and beliefs. There were plenty of people who could have given Obama a real challenge instead of this faux one, but for many reasons, that can't happen in the U.S.

I honestly think that if the election was between Ron Paul and Obama, Ron Paul could have outperformed this McCain/Palin ticket. I don't think there aren't others--the non-sold-out McCain of 2000 would have done better, too, in my opinion.

But back to my point, I wish we got to see debates and even elections with more than one canidate that wasn't completely ridiculous. Obama should have to defeat not only McCain, but then someone like Nader. He should have to argue over the constitutionality of how the executive has operated lately. And whether we should impeach Bush/Cheyney and all the neocons and every Fox News employee and convict them of treason.

Obviously that kind of stuff in the current system, if we got to have it, would have made Obama lose, because the vote would be split. So there's a systemtic problem right there, that no one seems interested in fixing. Another would be, how much money is involved in politics.

I hope that now that the election is won, maybe Obama will attack the real obstacles we have to having a truly effective democracy, instead of only worrying about the kind of wares he had to hock to defeat those hacks.
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