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thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-27 04:28:55
October 27 2008 04:27 GMT
#1
Is it okay to finish my an essay like this:

"Isidiro has helped me realize that the world is an experience that should be embraced with the chin up high, without him I couldn’t see myself writing this essay."


Should I talk about the esssay ON the essay, or is that no good?

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conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
October 27 2008 04:30 GMT
#2
That's generally... very very bad.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
October 27 2008 04:32 GMT
#3
What is this for? It's hard for us to help you without context.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 27 2008 04:32 GMT
#4
no

not unless its a personal essay
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 27 2008 04:33 GMT
#5
No.

Never refer to yourself for any reason.

If this is anything but a personal essay, I would give you an F for referring to yourself.
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
October 27 2008 04:33 GMT
#6
Generally speaking its not scholarly to talk about the essay in the actual essay.

But yes it would depend on the context/objective.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
October 27 2008 04:33 GMT
#7
No, don't do that.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 27 2008 04:36 GMT
#8
You can't do that and you can't end an essay in a sentance that sounds like "and the world was changed forever" that doesn't go over very well. Unless it's for a stupid as shit class then you can really write whatever you want.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
October 27 2008 04:37 GMT
#9
the conclusion and introduction are similar, but reworded.

just put everything together and end with something that would leave the reader like "wow" and have them something to think about after they're finished reading it.
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
October 27 2008 04:41 GMT
#10
As mentioned above, depends on what you're writing about. Generally the conclusion draws some insightful statement that relates to what your whole paper is about.
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-27 04:42:03
October 27 2008 04:41 GMT
#11
I guess I should've said that I'm not Isidro. its for a college app.
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
October 27 2008 04:44 GMT
#12
In that case, first person is fine, but try to modify the last part of that sentence (the "without him I couldn’t see myself writing this essay") as it's out of place and doesn't flow very well.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
October 27 2008 04:44 GMT
#13
If its not a biography then never do that.

Least thats how I see it.
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-27 04:50:01
October 27 2008 04:46 GMT
#14
On October 27 2008 13:44 nevake wrote:
In that case, first person is fine, but try to modify the last part of that sentence (the "without him I couldn’t see myself writing this essay") as it's out of place and doesn't flow very well.

ja, thats what i wanted to know, if it was or wasn't, guess its a gay way of ending an app.


edit: on a side note, i'm gonna get a 50 anyways cuz I had to do two instead of one and they're due, tommorow, which is in 12 minutes in my region. + Show Spoiler +
yes, i do realize that i to wait for school to start to turn it in, so i have more time, but fuck it, this essay took me 3 days and it sucks balls
Obama singing "Kick Ass" Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedde
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
October 27 2008 05:06 GMT
#15
there are no rules in writing
CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
October 27 2008 05:13 GMT
#16
On October 27 2008 14:06 geometryb wrote:
there are no rules in writing


there are in formal writing.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 27 2008 05:17 GMT
#17
perhaps there aren't "rules" but there are successful norms that are recommended for those of us that aren't flannery O'conner or faulkners.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-27 05:22:57
October 27 2008 05:21 GMT
#18
IMO we need to see your whole essay.

"without him I couldn’t see myself writing this essay" is very iffy too

Here's some advice I put in another college essay thread that might help with your essay in general

On October 20 2008 13:45 BanZu wrote:
They want to know who you are.

Simple as that.

But writing it is easier said than done.

"The personal statement is an important part of your application for admission and scholarships. The University uses the statement to learn more about you as an individual and to understand the experience, accomplishments, and points of view you would bring to the University's undergraduate student body. The personal statement gives you the opportunity to discuss attributes and experiences that may not be evident through a review of your academic record."

"Although you may wish to seek the advice of others, the University expects you to write your own admission essay. At the same time, it is probably a good idea to have a friend, teacher, or parent provide you with feedback on how well your essay conveys what you want to say. Remember, however, the purpose of the essay is to gain insight about you on a personal level."

"There is no single "good" admission essay. We look for essays in which the quality of your character emerges. After we have read your essay, we will ask the question, "what do we know about this individual?" If we have learned little about you, the essay has not succeeded."

Just some excerpts from a packet I got from my English class.

Edit: Useful stuff on What kind of admission essay should I avoid?

One type of essay that usually does not succeed is the essay which simply lists information such as activities and honors. Because this information can be found elsewhere in the application, the list essay adds little to our understanding of you as an individual. A list tells the campus what you do, not who you are. You may, however, be able to compose an essay of this type if you discuss a wide range of activities, convey a sense of your broad interests and abilities, and in the process, reveal something about your character.

An example of the list type of essay is:
My Life
"I was born in Colorado and moved with my parents to California when I was in the sixth grade. both of my parents, and my older brother have degrees from Berkeley and I want to go there too. I received an award as the Top Student from my junior high school. I am now a senior in high school where I am editor of the yearbook, server on my class council, have the lead in the senior play, play varsity tennis, rank number 3 in my class scholastically, and volunteer two hours a week serving meals to the homeless.

Another kind of essay you should avoid is one that is so predictable and one-dimensional that is becomes a stereotype. This type of essay is so common that it is not useful to us in distinguishing among applicants.

Some examples are:
My Summer Trip
"I went to South America this summer. I ate different food, learned different customs, and met different people who spoke a different language and led a different way of life. it changed my life."

I Learned a Lot from Sports
"I learned how to set goals, to be a team player, to give 110%, and to overcome getting up early on cold mornings to practice."

A third type of essay to avoid is one that tries to be very comical or that relies heavily on a gimmick. While a sense of humor is a valuable quality and may add a pleasing dimension to an essay, most essays that attempt to be exceptionally funny do not succeed and do not help the applicant in competitive admissions.

An example is:
I am Like the Busy Ant, the Faithful Dog, the Worker Bee, and the Friendly Chipmunk
"I am like the ant always working hard to make my dreams come true. I am like the dog, dedicated and faithful in doing my school work. I am like the worker bee always striving for the benefit of others in every way but never buzzing around telling others what I am doing. I am like the perky chipmunk, not too nutty, but friendly, making everyone feel like they belong."

Other essays lack focus They are too general, as if the writer hadn't been able to decide what to write about.

The D's
"I have the determination, discipline and desire for admission to your campus."

In composing your essay, you should not automatically reject writing about any of the subjects listed above. The problem with such essay is not the topic, but the manner in which the essay is presented. Essays about these (or other) subjects can be successful if they elaborate on the insights you gained from your experience and on the ways this experience influenced your outlook, activities, commitment, or goals. remember, no matter what you choose to write about, your essay needs to provide an answer to the basic question, what do we know about you as an individual?

Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 27 2008 05:32 GMT
#19
I wouldn't do it in a college app essay
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 27 2008 05:36 GMT
#20
they don't like it when you do that because they want to remind you that you're their slave
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
October 27 2008 05:46 GMT
#21
i wrote about writing about the essay in an SAT essay and i got a 10/12
i think writing generically, undermines your performance
however.. this is a good point

A third type of essay to avoid is one that tries to be very comical or that relies heavily on a gimmick. While a sense of humor is a valuable quality and may add a pleasing dimension to an essay, most essays that attempt to be exceptionally funny do not succeed and do not help the applicant in competitive admissions.

a little bit , but don't revolve your whole essay around it?
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imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
October 27 2008 06:34 GMT
#22
it sounds kinda bad in general, so consider rewording it for sure
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 27 2008 07:51 GMT
#23
Think about rewording it. It would help a lot if you posted the whole thing (or at least the whole concluding paragraph).
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 27 2008 09:03 GMT
#24
It will be considered as a bad joke that's also being used in the wrong place at the wrong time. Don't do it.
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
October 31 2008 06:02 GMT
#25
to close up this thread, i did change the conclusion, ty for making me feel bad (just a little bit).
Obama singing "Kick Ass" Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedde
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
October 31 2008 06:12 GMT
#26
Unless its a personally essay don't refer to yourself, EVER.
Treatin' fools since '87
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
October 31 2008 06:12 GMT
#27
It would be better if you showed us the whole essay
Treatin' fools since '87
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