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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 24 2008 18:38 GMT
#21
They might be warming up so that they don't get trashed on their higher account with their first 1 or 2 games.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 24 2008 18:47 GMT
#22
On October 25 2008 01:58 naventus wrote:
Why the fuck do so many people just smurf and play against D?

Why are people who could easily play C+ with their 250 APM insist on newbbashing D games all the time?


I think I may have just played you, I made a smurf account just to fool around on.
Zuries
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom156 Posts
October 24 2008 18:57 GMT
#23
for fun
FUCK SALT
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
October 24 2008 19:00 GMT
#24
naventus wanna 1v1? i'm d i swear
Entusman #12
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
October 24 2008 19:03 GMT
#25
im B allmost B+ and i dont have no 250apm. Judging skill by apm is silly anyone can go 123123123123123123123 and suck.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
October 24 2008 20:03 GMT
#26
On October 25 2008 04:03 Lz wrote:
im B allmost B+ and i dont have no 250apm. Judging skill by apm is silly anyone can go 123123123123123123123 and suck.

Yes but not having 250 apm and making good smart decisions is rarer than a mechanics machine it seems.
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
October 24 2008 20:07 GMT
#27
Well maybe they had a bad record and wanted to restart, or they kept losing and wanted to have some fun and re-build their confidence with some easy games, or maybe they hadn't had an account yet this season and everyone has to start making their way up sometime.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24805 Posts
October 24 2008 20:57 GMT
#28
Many people care more about their record than their rating (not that this really makes sense). If you are getting raped in a d vs d game, the good news is, you will pretty quickly undo that deficit in the near future vs other d ranked players... and don't play people significantly below your rank once you get into C-/C so that you don't have to worry about a smurph taking all your points.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 24 2008 21:35 GMT
#29
On October 25 2008 03:47 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2008 01:58 naventus wrote:
Why the fuck do so many people just smurf and play against D?

Why are people who could easily play C+ with their 250 APM insist on newbbashing D games all the time?


I think I may have just played you, I made a smurf account just to fool around on.


salv u dont have 250 apm with anyrace..
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
October 24 2008 21:44 GMT
#30
yea that was me sorry bro
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 24 2008 21:46 GMT
#31
On October 25 2008 06:44 Chill wrote:
yea that was me sorry bro


funny thing is I believe it
Hi.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
October 24 2008 21:47 GMT
#32
no d's at 250 apm unless spaming


I average 300+ APM with 160+ EAPM, and I haven't made it to D+ yet, so what do you say?
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 24 2008 21:47 GMT
#33
On October 25 2008 02:30 Zoler wrote:
There is like 1 D+ in a million which has 250+ apm

not a million people play sc ..... right?
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 21:48:17
October 24 2008 21:47 GMT
#34
i beat a smurfing protoss with 220 apm, it was a furious battle until he switched to carriers and his apm dropped to 120 but i barely beat him with my 130 apm terran


then i went 0-6 against protosses who hid dt tech or other gay stuff
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 21:50:19
October 24 2008 21:49 GMT
#35
I love it when I play one of these "noob-bashers" and beat them (I don't play much so by the time I'm out of D the new season has started). They get really annoyed and start cussing me for playing below my rank.

Or there's the ones that say something along the lines of:
"lol, u got lucky noob, I'm B+ high"
"gg go re?"
combat-ex has left the game.
No I'm never serious.
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
October 25 2008 02:13 GMT
#36
Roflamo :D
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 25 2008 02:22 GMT
#37
On October 25 2008 02:30 Zoler wrote:
There is like 1 D+ in a million which has 250+ apm


I'm D+ and get 250+ apm O.O
BUT I have horrible timing and shit game sense, thus my shit rank! I wouldn't be surprised if there were lots of D+ players who had that much apm, without randomly spamming!
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 25 2008 03:57 GMT
#38
On October 25 2008 11:22 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2008 02:30 Zoler wrote:
There is like 1 D+ in a million which has 250+ apm


I'm D+ and get 250+ apm O.O
BUT I have horrible timing and shit game sense, thus my shit rank! I wouldn't be surprised if there were lots of D+ players who had that much apm, without randomly spamming!


I don't think APM is all that accurate. For example, a friend was over the other day to do some studying and he wanted to watch me play a game of SC. I played a lot worse than usual with him watching. I had 170 APM (my high average) that game and 130eapm. I could feel myself doing things a lot slower and yet my APM was still high.

I must have been doing a lot of unnecessary actions because I was anxious. This also caused me to delay important things (like lurkers or hive tech) and every second counts. Therefore, you might have really high APM but all you're really doing is spamming. It also shows that eapm isn't an accurate indicator of your playing ability even though it might be better than apm.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 26 2008 15:39 GMT
#39
Oh no, another APM bs thread.

Eapm (Effective APM) Is the only viable measure of the player's real speed. And it shows nothing but the speed itself. Fast idiot <<< Smart Panda
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JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
October 26 2008 16:11 GMT
#40
On October 25 2008 01:58 naventus wrote:
Why the fuck do so many people just smurf and play against D?

Why are people who could easily play C+ with their 250 APM insist on newbbashing D games all the time?


Dude.. I'm almost like 280 apm and I'm a real noob ok.
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