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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 19 2008 02:34 GMT
#1
what would you do if you and this girl were in love but not dating anymore because you both have dated three times and this is going to be a long break instead of a short break. and during the course of the relationship, she says that she would keep her virginity to you and then was later raped by a guy but did not report it.

what would you do? would you be angry at the fact that she did not report it? imagine this was you.

YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 02:36:47
October 19 2008 02:36 GMT
#2
er... Move on to a different girl. If I have multiple women in my life i wouldn't bother going through all that effort and emotional drama for this one single girl that isn't even honest. I'd probably even feel glad that i exposed her real self early, so i wouldn't of had to waste more time dating/figuring out who she was.

edit: easier said than done.
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 02:39:17
October 19 2008 02:36 GMT
#3
I wouldn't be angry, I mean being raped is an incredibly personal and emotionally damaging event. If she doesn't feel like telling anybody then you can't really blame her...

However I'd probably break it off, generally it's pretty hard to mend a relationship when either side has been exposed to something like that.

Edit: I can't tell how long this relationship's lasted, but if it's been really long, then maybe you should hang in there (assuming you're asking for advice and not asking a rhetorical question).
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
October 19 2008 02:39 GMT
#4
[I would] give her support. Seriously, rape is understood as a crime, involving a criminal (or criminals) and a victim. If she's the victim, then I see no reason to victimize her further. If hope this is just a theoretical scenario, though~
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 02:45:02
October 19 2008 02:42 GMT
#5
On October 19 2008 11:39 Descent wrote:
[I would] give her support. Seriously, rape is understood as a crime, involving a criminal (or criminals) and a victim. If she's the victim, then I see no reason to victimize her further. If hope this is just a theoretical scenario, though~


I agree with this. She was raped, and if keeping her virginity was a serious issue in the relationship, how can you possibly hold that against her? Assuming this is theoretical... how did you come up with this? If it isn't, I'm sorry, man.

EDIT: Finishing the thought:
I wouldn't be angry at all. It is very common that they don't want to report it for a variety of reasons. In fact, I can't believe anyone who would be angry, unless they are completely oblivious to psychology learned in health class.

And about the relationship, I don't know if I would break it off or not. I know I wouldn't just remove her from my life though.
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
October 19 2008 02:52 GMT
#6
This is a tough call, and so I'm not going to answer your question.

All I'm going to say is that she NEEDS you right now, and even though you may be angry, you should realise that you've never been raped (I'm assuming here) and that you can't possibly know what that feels like. The rational thing here would be to report the crime. Then again, there are a lot of issues she's dealing with at the moment. Shock, fear, and a horde of other feelings.

So my suggestion is this - don't ask us whether we'd be angry. Put your anger aside for a second and be the friend this girl needs. Whether you decide to get into a relationship with her or not is your call man, but right now, you're above all a friend. Act like one.

I know you must be feeling angry, and sad about what happened to her, but be careful you don't misdirect this. None of this is her fault, and the fact that she doesn't want to report it is completely understandable. Instead of trying to go after the guy that did it (by making her report it), you should try your best to just _listen_ to what she has to say.

Eventually, she may find the courage to take action herself, but this is her battle, not yours. All you can do is give her the love, acceptance and support that will enable her to take action.

You both are in my prayers man. Take care.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 19 2008 02:54 GMT
#7
On October 19 2008 11:39 Descent wrote:
[I would] give her support. Seriously, rape is understood as a crime, involving a criminal (or criminals) and a victim. If she's the victim, then I see no reason to victimize her further. If hope this is just a theoretical scenario, though~

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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 03:00:41
October 19 2008 02:56 GMT
#8
edit: please excuse my ignorance
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 19 2008 03:38 GMT
#9
On October 19 2008 11:36 YPang wrote:
er... Move on to a different girl. If I have multiple women in my life i wouldn't bother going through all that effort and emotional drama for this one single girl that isn't even honest. I'd probably even feel glad that i exposed her real self early, so i wouldn't of had to waste more time dating/figuring out who she was.

edit: easier said than done.

you kind of misread. but i love her.

On October 19 2008 11:36 Falcynn wrote:
I wouldn't be angry, I mean being raped is an incredibly personal and emotionally damaging event. If she doesn't feel like telling anybody then you can't really blame her...

However I'd probably break it off, generally it's pretty hard to mend a relationship when either side has been exposed to something like that.

Edit: I can't tell how long this relationship's lasted, but if it's been really long, then maybe you should hang in there (assuming you're asking for advice and not asking a rhetorical question).


we arent dating, at least not again for sometime. i mean, i understand what she went through but emotionally im torn.

On October 19 2008 11:42 Archaic wrote:
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On October 19 2008 11:39 Descent wrote:
[I would] give her support. Seriously, rape is understood as a crime, involving a criminal (or criminals) and a victim. If she's the victim, then I see no reason to victimize her further. If hope this is just a theoretical scenario, though~


I agree with this. She was raped, and if keeping her virginity was a serious issue in the relationship, how can you possibly hold that against her? Assuming this is theoretical... how did you come up with this? If it isn't, I'm sorry, man.

EDIT: Finishing the thought:
I wouldn't be angry at all. It is very common that they don't want to report it for a variety of reasons. In fact, I can't believe anyone who would be angry, unless they are completely oblivious to psychology learned in health class.

And about the relationship, I don't know if I would break it off or not. I know I wouldn't just remove her from my life though.

yeah i know what you mean, in a way i wouldnt do that either. it happened a few months back, i didnt know any of this until tonight when we were having a really serious conversation and she told me this.

On October 19 2008 11:52 riptide wrote:
This is a tough call, and so I'm not going to answer your question.

All I'm going to say is that she NEEDS you right now, and even though you may be angry, you should realise that you've never been raped (I'm assuming here) and that you can't possibly know what that feels like. The rational thing here would be to report the crime. Then again, there are a lot of issues she's dealing with at the moment. Shock, fear, and a horde of other feelings.

So my suggestion is this - don't ask us whether we'd be angry. Put your anger aside for a second and be the friend this girl needs. Whether you decide to get into a relationship with her or not is your call man, but right now, you're above all a friend. Act like one.

I know you must be feeling angry, and sad about what happened to her, but be careful you don't misdirect this. None of this is her fault, and the fact that she doesn't want to report it is completely understandable. Instead of trying to go after the guy that did it (by making her report it), you should try your best to just _listen_ to what she has to say.

Eventually, she may find the courage to take action herself, but this is her battle, not yours. All you can do is give her the love, acceptance and support that will enable her to take action.

You both are in my prayers man. Take care.

youre right, this isnt my battle at all. i dont know what you mean about take action herself, kind of got no evidence.. but this kid has done this to another friend of hers. but thank you all, i know what i must do now.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11575 Posts
October 19 2008 03:38 GMT
#10
sounds really familiar to a friend of mine, he was dating this chick, and she was raped, so he went and beat the shit out of the dude. don't be pissed at her for not reporting, she has already been through enough trauma, fuck the dude up.
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
October 19 2008 03:55 GMT
#11
On October 19 2008 12:38 Raithed wrote:
youre right, this isnt my battle at all. i dont know what you mean about take action herself, kind of got no evidence.. but this kid has done this to another friend of hers. but thank you all, i know what i must do now.


You don't need evidence to report a crime. IANAL, but as far as I know, you can report a crime, as in, tell the authorities what happened, without evidence. If, for example, both her and her friend come forward to testify about what this bastard did to them, there's a good chance of something happening to him. Again, not a lawyer, just sharing my limited layman's knowledge.

Still, as you have now accepted, this is something which she, or they (her friend and her) have to do. Just make sure that if she does eventually decide to do something about it that you are there for her. It takes an immense amount of courage to go after someone who has hurt you in this way, and she'll need to draw a lot of that strength from you, if it ever happens. Good on you mate, hang in there, and be the friend she needs.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 19 2008 04:03 GMT
#12
Shit man, if she was raped and you got mad, that's a dick move. Something like that is scarring and frightening, I'm sure she doesn't ever want to relive that again whether through mentioning it or anything. I'd be supportive, but let her know at the same time that you really wish she'd have told you because she can trust you.

Or some other sappy shit like that .
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 19 2008 04:16 GMT
#13
i thought the first few words were going to be "for a klondike bar" but i would probably stay with her. like other people said shes already a victim so you would be leaving her in her time of need. unless of course she used this as an excuse and there was no rape in the first place but assuming you trust her and she trusts you then i wouldnt worry about that.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 19 2008 04:17 GMT
#14
On October 19 2008 12:55 riptide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 12:38 Raithed wrote:
youre right, this isnt my battle at all. i dont know what you mean about take action herself, kind of got no evidence.. but this kid has done this to another friend of hers. but thank you all, i know what i must do now.


You don't need evidence to report a crime. IANAL, but as far as I know, you can report a crime, as in, tell the authorities what happened, without evidence. If, for example, both her and her friend come forward to testify about what this bastard did to them, there's a good chance of something happening to him. Again, not a lawyer, just sharing my limited layman's knowledge.

It happened a long time ago, so it's doubtful anything can come from it unless it was taped or something. D:

But yeah, the only thing you can do is be there for her.
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Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
October 19 2008 04:47 GMT
#15
Honestly if it was me I'd fuck up the guy who did this... He did such a horrible thing to the girl you love...

But that's just me and that doesn't at all mean its right.

Honestly, her losing her virginity to a rape by another guy must be huge and devastating, both for her and you. Just be there for her, man. Understand her.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
October 19 2008 04:53 GMT
#16
You can't get more angry, its not like she cheated on you. And for the people saying they would just move on, how could you do that? Maybe this would be pyschological in terms if you all did have sex, she might not like it.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 19 2008 04:56 GMT
#17
but tell me this, how come it took her months to tell me. is it because shes afraid of hurting me? i dont know, if that had happened to me i think i would tell right? i dont know, different people have different mindsets i guess.
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
October 19 2008 05:04 GMT
#18
Well she's scared of what you'd think of her now that she has been raped and is no longer the virgin she was when you guys were a couple.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 19 2008 05:10 GMT
#19
yeah, i get it now. thanks everyone.
letsbefree
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada123 Posts
October 19 2008 05:27 GMT
#20
she got raped? holy shit ='(
personally i would find the guy and fucking rip his dick off
hehe...
AmericaN
Profile Joined October 2008
France1 Post
October 19 2008 06:01 GMT
#21
I'd rape her. If she didn't report the first guy, why would she report you? Free rough anal sex.
America Fuck Yeah!
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
October 19 2008 06:41 GMT
#22
On October 19 2008 15:01 AmericaN wrote:
I'd rape her. If she didn't report the first guy, why would she report you? Free rough anal sex.




On October 19 2008 13:56 Raithed wrote:
but tell me this, how come it took her months to tell me. is it because shes afraid of hurting me? i dont know, if that had happened to me i think i would tell right? i dont know, different people have different mindsets i guess.


I think the keyword here being _if_ it ever happened to you. Truth is, it never has, and if it did, it probably would take you a long time to talk to anyone about it. Unlike being beat up, or anything close to that, being raped is something that often brings a lot of shame along with it. For a long time, a victim may feel that he/she is responsible, and will feel ashamed to share the experience with others. You MUST understand this. It was probably not because she afraid of hurting you (although this may have been a part of the reason). The main reason is that she had to gather her courage to tell someone. The fact that she told you shows she trusts you. Be a rock man, she needs you at this time.
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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
October 19 2008 07:00 GMT
#23
On October 19 2008 15:01 AmericaN wrote:
I'd rape her. If she didn't report the first guy, why would she report you? Free rough anal sex.
hahahahaha
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
October 19 2008 10:35 GMT
#24
she should report it in order to prevent him from raping other girls. also, reporting it really fucks the guy over. if he isn't convicted, people will still think he did it because people are always guilty. and if he is convicted, then he' super fucked up the ass in life because he will have no chance at a decent job or grad school. pretending it didn't happen is the worst because that's like saying it's okay to rape her. =/
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
October 19 2008 10:39 GMT
#25
what you need to do is persuade her to come forward to tell the police or whatever university thing handles stuff like that and go through the procedures and complicated stuff with her so that it's not as hard and scary.
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
October 19 2008 13:52 GMT
#26
How are you in love if you can't stay together?
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 14:14:09
October 19 2008 14:08 GMT
#27
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.
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ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
October 19 2008 15:43 GMT
#28
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.



nah i think its sweet

but why wouldn't she report it?

rape is not something small, its something that can mentally scar a person for life.
but i dont feel like i can make a judgment call for you cause i dont know your situation that well
ish0wstopper effect
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
October 19 2008 15:58 GMT
#29
You dont know what shes going through. You are not qualified to tell her what to do. Get some advice from rape help groups and shit, not TL.

If your angry at her because she lost her virginity, then you are the worlds biggest asshole. If you cannot see why she might have hidden the fact from you, then you are the worlds biggest retard.

If you know who the guy is that raped her. Hunt that fucker down and chop his dick off.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 19 2008 16:11 GMT
#30
On October 19 2008 11:34 Raithed wrote:
what would you do if you and this girl were in love but not dating anymore because you both have dated three times and this is going to be a long break instead of a short break. and during the course of the relationship, she says that she would keep her virginity to you and then was later raped by a guy but did not report it.

what would you do? would you be angry at the fact that she did not report it? imagine this was you.



Anger is not a useful response to any situation. I would be compassionate.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 19 2008 16:12 GMT
#31
Some of the comments in this thread are terrible. Is this stuff what you guys really believe?
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 19 2008 17:23 GMT
#32
On October 19 2008 22:52 Koldblooded wrote:
How are you in love if you can't stay together?

you know, thats the funny thing. its not like we dont want to be together or anything, we just like breaks sometimes so we dont annoy the hell out of each other but we still love each other. the thing with us is that when we take breaks or long time of not talking to each other, we are more closer. i guess this kind of attributes to it somehow.
On October 20 2008 00:58 Fen wrote:
You dont know what shes going through. You are not qualified to tell her what to do. Get some advice from rape help groups and shit, not TL.

If your angry at her because she lost her virginity, then you are the worlds biggest asshole. If you cannot see why she might have hidden the fact from you, then you are the worlds biggest retard.

If you know who the guy is that raped her. Hunt that fucker down and chop his dick off.

well of course im not qualified to tell her what to do, im not telling her what to do.
On October 20 2008 00:43 ish0wstopper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.



nah i think its sweet

but why wouldn't she report it?

rape is not something small, its something that can mentally scar a person for life.
but i dont feel like i can make a judgment call for you cause i dont know your situation that well

i dont know, i keep asking myself why she didnt report it but she said she didnt think there was any seriousness in it. i dont know how to make use out of that.. i mean, the guy already raped another girl but it wasnt rape? but she said it surely wasnt mutual, so it has to be? i dont know.
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.

they hang out a lot, and as far as i know, he has a gf?

HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 18:24:35
October 19 2008 18:23 GMT
#33
Still you won't be able to even touch her probably

-if it was truly "rape"
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 19 2008 18:45 GMT
#34
On October 20 2008 02:23 Raithed wrote:
i dont know, i keep asking myself why she didnt report it but she said she didnt think there was any seriousness in it. i dont know how to make use out of that.. i mean, the guy already raped another girl but it wasnt rape? but she said it surely wasnt mutual, so it has to be? i dont know.



She probably gave into desires and is now being dishonest about it.

Just a guess.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 19 2008 19:15 GMT
#35
Depends on if I actually believe it was rape. Also, if it was violent rape, or if she was just drunk as fuck and got taken advantage of.

If you've dated 3 times... broke up 3 times... No... I've seen people like that... They don't really love each other, they're just obsessed with thinking they do.

But then, there's not enough information given here... Just do what makes sense to you.
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FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
October 19 2008 19:15 GMT
#36
On October 19 2008 14:27 letsbefree wrote:
she got raped? holy shit ='(
personally i would find the guy and fucking rip his dick off

KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
October 19 2008 21:11 GMT
#37
On October 20 2008 02:23 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 22:52 Koldblooded wrote:
How are you in love if you can't stay together?

you know, thats the funny thing. its not like we dont want to be together or anything, we just like breaks sometimes so we dont annoy the hell out of each other but we still love each other. the thing with us is that when we take breaks or long time of not talking to each other, we are more closer. i guess this kind of attributes to it somehow.
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 00:58 Fen wrote:
You dont know what shes going through. You are not qualified to tell her what to do. Get some advice from rape help groups and shit, not TL.

If your angry at her because she lost her virginity, then you are the worlds biggest asshole. If you cannot see why she might have hidden the fact from you, then you are the worlds biggest retard.

If you know who the guy is that raped her. Hunt that fucker down and chop his dick off.

well of course im not qualified to tell her what to do, im not telling her what to do.
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 00:43 ish0wstopper wrote:
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.



nah i think its sweet

but why wouldn't she report it?

rape is not something small, its something that can mentally scar a person for life.
but i dont feel like i can make a judgment call for you cause i dont know your situation that well

i dont know, i keep asking myself why she didnt report it but she said she didnt think there was any seriousness in it. i dont know how to make use out of that.. i mean, the guy already raped another girl but it wasnt rape? but she said it surely wasnt mutual, so it has to be? i dont know.
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.

they hang out a lot, and as far as i know, he has a gf?



Ehm she got "raped" by a guy but is still friends with him? ......
And yes virginity is overrated I wouldn't care much about that specific part if I were you.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 19 2008 22:04 GMT
#38
On October 20 2008 06:11 KlaCkoN wrote:
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On October 20 2008 02:23 Raithed wrote:
On October 19 2008 22:52 Koldblooded wrote:
How are you in love if you can't stay together?

you know, thats the funny thing. its not like we dont want to be together or anything, we just like breaks sometimes so we dont annoy the hell out of each other but we still love each other. the thing with us is that when we take breaks or long time of not talking to each other, we are more closer. i guess this kind of attributes to it somehow.
On October 20 2008 00:58 Fen wrote:
You dont know what shes going through. You are not qualified to tell her what to do. Get some advice from rape help groups and shit, not TL.

If your angry at her because she lost her virginity, then you are the worlds biggest asshole. If you cannot see why she might have hidden the fact from you, then you are the worlds biggest retard.

If you know who the guy is that raped her. Hunt that fucker down and chop his dick off.

well of course im not qualified to tell her what to do, im not telling her what to do.
On October 20 2008 00:43 ish0wstopper wrote:
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.



nah i think its sweet

but why wouldn't she report it?

rape is not something small, its something that can mentally scar a person for life.
but i dont feel like i can make a judgment call for you cause i dont know your situation that well

i dont know, i keep asking myself why she didnt report it but she said she didnt think there was any seriousness in it. i dont know how to make use out of that.. i mean, the guy already raped another girl but it wasnt rape? but she said it surely wasnt mutual, so it has to be? i dont know.
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.

they hang out a lot, and as far as i know, he has a gf?



Ehm she got "raped" by a guy but is still friends with him? ......
And yes virginity is overrated I wouldn't care much about that specific part if I were you.

i guess i didnt make sense since you did not understand, they were friends and hung out a lot. theyre not friends anymore.
artofmagic
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
United States1951 Posts
October 19 2008 22:18 GMT
#39
On October 20 2008 07:04 Raithed wrote:
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On October 20 2008 06:11 KlaCkoN wrote:
On October 20 2008 02:23 Raithed wrote:
On October 19 2008 22:52 Koldblooded wrote:
How are you in love if you can't stay together?

you know, thats the funny thing. its not like we dont want to be together or anything, we just like breaks sometimes so we dont annoy the hell out of each other but we still love each other. the thing with us is that when we take breaks or long time of not talking to each other, we are more closer. i guess this kind of attributes to it somehow.
On October 20 2008 00:58 Fen wrote:
You dont know what shes going through. You are not qualified to tell her what to do. Get some advice from rape help groups and shit, not TL.

If your angry at her because she lost her virginity, then you are the worlds biggest asshole. If you cannot see why she might have hidden the fact from you, then you are the worlds biggest retard.

If you know who the guy is that raped her. Hunt that fucker down and chop his dick off.

well of course im not qualified to tell her what to do, im not telling her what to do.
On October 20 2008 00:43 ish0wstopper wrote:
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.



nah i think its sweet

but why wouldn't she report it?

rape is not something small, its something that can mentally scar a person for life.
but i dont feel like i can make a judgment call for you cause i dont know your situation that well

i dont know, i keep asking myself why she didnt report it but she said she didnt think there was any seriousness in it. i dont know how to make use out of that.. i mean, the guy already raped another girl but it wasnt rape? but she said it surely wasnt mutual, so it has to be? i dont know.
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.

they hang out a lot, and as far as i know, he has a gf?



Ehm she got "raped" by a guy but is still friends with him? ......
And yes virginity is overrated I wouldn't care much about that specific part if I were you.

i guess i didnt make sense since you did not understand, they were friends and hung out a lot. theyre not friends anymore.


hey man.. in my perspective.. she gave in to temptation since they know each other and hangout alot. unless she was totally drunk(very possible), drugged or physically forced(don't think that's possible).

the question is more like... will you still date a non-virgin girl or a girl who fucks another person when they're on break?
evolve or die
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
October 19 2008 22:23 GMT
#40
Ok makes more sense that way.
God it makes me mad thinking about this.
As a fellow human it's your responsibility to fuck him up imo. Police (best choice), shoot him, beat him up, whatever. Otherwise he will keep raping girls, perhaps even killing one of them one day.
On the other hand, your loyalty to her dictates that you are there for her, listens to her and don't do _anything_ without her consent.
Tough call really.
Have you asked her wether or not she would want to go after him? Maybe she just needs support for it.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 19 2008 22:34 GMT
#41
On October 20 2008 07:18 artofmagic wrote:
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On October 20 2008 07:04 Raithed wrote:
On October 20 2008 06:11 KlaCkoN wrote:
On October 20 2008 02:23 Raithed wrote:
On October 19 2008 22:52 Koldblooded wrote:
How are you in love if you can't stay together?

you know, thats the funny thing. its not like we dont want to be together or anything, we just like breaks sometimes so we dont annoy the hell out of each other but we still love each other. the thing with us is that when we take breaks or long time of not talking to each other, we are more closer. i guess this kind of attributes to it somehow.
On October 20 2008 00:58 Fen wrote:
You dont know what shes going through. You are not qualified to tell her what to do. Get some advice from rape help groups and shit, not TL.

If your angry at her because she lost her virginity, then you are the worlds biggest asshole. If you cannot see why she might have hidden the fact from you, then you are the worlds biggest retard.

If you know who the guy is that raped her. Hunt that fucker down and chop his dick off.

well of course im not qualified to tell her what to do, im not telling her what to do.
On October 20 2008 00:43 ish0wstopper wrote:
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.



nah i think its sweet

but why wouldn't she report it?

rape is not something small, its something that can mentally scar a person for life.
but i dont feel like i can make a judgment call for you cause i dont know your situation that well

i dont know, i keep asking myself why she didnt report it but she said she didnt think there was any seriousness in it. i dont know how to make use out of that.. i mean, the guy already raped another girl but it wasnt rape? but she said it surely wasnt mutual, so it has to be? i dont know.
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
How did she get raped?

If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?

PS: Virginity is overrated and that kind of promise is corny. Best advise: stay away from emo girl.

they hang out a lot, and as far as i know, he has a gf?



Ehm she got "raped" by a guy but is still friends with him? ......
And yes virginity is overrated I wouldn't care much about that specific part if I were you.

i guess i didnt make sense since you did not understand, they were friends and hung out a lot. theyre not friends anymore.


hey man.. in my perspective.. she gave in to temptation since they know each other and hangout alot. unless she was totally drunk(very possible), drugged or physically forced(don't think that's possible).

the question is more like... will you still date a non-virgin girl or a girl who fucks another person when they're on break?

but it wasnt mutual.

On October 20 2008 07:23 KlaCkoN wrote:
Ok makes more sense that way.
God it makes me mad thinking about this.
As a fellow human it's your responsibility to fuck him up imo. Police (best choice), shoot him, beat him up, whatever. Otherwise he will keep raping girls, perhaps even killing one of them one day.
On the other hand, your loyalty to her dictates that you are there for her, listens to her and don't do _anything_ without her consent.
Tough call really.
Have you asked her wether or not she would want to go after him? Maybe she just needs support for it.

you know, shes really dodgy in terms that i would ask her something and i always have to change the subject because im random like that and she would just answer my random question instead of my question asking her about the subject. and i dont really know how to ask her about that, like, would i just go "would you and (the other girl) go to police about this?" i mean i asked her the night she told me and she said she didnt think of the seriousness of it.. WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
Deleted User 3420
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24492 Posts
October 19 2008 22:46 GMT
#42
On October 20 2008 07:34 Raithed wrote:

you know, shes really dodgy in terms that i would ask her something and i always have to change the subject because im random like that and she would just answer my random question instead of my question asking her about the subject. and i dont really know how to ask her about that, like, would i just go "would you and (the other girl) go to police about this?" i mean i asked her the night she told me and she said she didnt think of the seriousness of it.. WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?


When the things people say make no sense/are confusing like that, it's generally due to dishonesty.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 23:21:47
October 19 2008 23:07 GMT
#43
On October 20 2008 07:46 travis wrote:
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On October 20 2008 07:34 Raithed wrote:

you know, shes really dodgy in terms that i would ask her something and i always have to change the subject because im random like that and she would just answer my random question instead of my question asking her about the subject. and i dont really know how to ask her about that, like, would i just go "would you and (the other girl) go to police about this?" i mean i asked her the night she told me and she said she didnt think of the seriousness of it.. WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?


When the things people say make no sense/are confusing like that, it's generally due to dishonesty.


Yea you have a point there. On the other hand though if she really wasn't raped it would make no sense whatsoever for her to tell anyone about this (least of all OP) in the first place.
Girls cheat all the time, they _don't_ cheat then get away with it but still stop hanging out with a close friend and months later start crying about rape + tells you that another girl also was raped.
Rape is a strange thing in that it often makes the victim behave guilty.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 19 2008 23:19 GMT
#44
well yeah i know girls cheat etc but now this blog has a lot of confusing statements thats making me think otherwise but i wont because i trust her.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
October 19 2008 23:22 GMT
#45
Hm just in case my post didn't make it clear :S
I really don't think she is lying.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 19 2008 23:24 GMT
#46
On October 20 2008 08:07 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 07:46 travis wrote:
On October 20 2008 07:34 Raithed wrote:

you know, shes really dodgy in terms that i would ask her something and i always have to change the subject because im random like that and she would just answer my random question instead of my question asking her about the subject. and i dont really know how to ask her about that, like, would i just go "would you and (the other girl) go to police about this?" i mean i asked her the night she told me and she said she didnt think of the seriousness of it.. WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?


When the things people say make no sense/are confusing like that, it's generally due to dishonesty.


Yea you have a point there. On the other hand though if she really wasn't raped it would make no sense whatsoever for her to tell anyone about this (least of all OP) in the first place.


You would think so, but people can be funny like that. They do something they know is bad deep down, and it disturbs them inside and so they have to let it out, even if what they let out is warped and twisted.



regardless this is all speculation, psychotemplar's post earlier was v good imo.
fgsvsd
Profile Joined June 2007
Switzerland348 Posts
October 19 2008 23:29 GMT
#47
I would rape the guy who raped her and then hysterically sob "LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!".
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Seriously now, she's stupid for not reporting him if it was indeed rape, but you reek of needyness.
Also, your post is pretty unclear when it comes to your relationship with her.
fgsvsd
Profile Joined June 2007
Switzerland348 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-20 00:18:01
October 20 2008 00:01 GMT
#48
On October 19 2008 23:08 Elvin_vn wrote:
If she flirted with the guy and got raped then she deserved it. Maybe that's why she didn't report it?
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. FULLSTOP. WHATT?!!!!!!!!


What the fuck is wrong with you are you retarded.
Do we even have the same definition of the word "flirt"?!!


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Edit:
On October 19 2008 15:41 riptide wrote:
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On October 19 2008 15:01 AmericaN wrote:
I'd rape her. If she didn't report the first guy, why would she report you? Free rough anal sex.


I found it funny.


Was very tempted to post something similar myself but stopped for fear of the banhammer.

I'd definitively rather have Elvin_vn banned than AmericaN. I guess the difference is that Elvin was expressing a serious (lol) belief while AmericaN was joking (in a topic intended to be serious), eh? Mhh and let's not forget postcount.

Don't pay attention to me, I'm just rambling.
fgsvsd
Profile Joined June 2007
Switzerland348 Posts
October 20 2008 00:37 GMT
#49
On October 20 2008 02:23 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 00:58 Fen wrote:
You dont know what shes going through. You are not qualified to tell her what to do. Get some advice from rape help groups and shit, not TL.

If your angry at her because she lost her virginity, then you are the worlds biggest asshole. If you cannot see why she might have hidden the fact from you, then you are the worlds biggest retard.

If you know who the guy is that raped her. Hunt that fucker down and chop his dick off.

well of course im not qualified to tell her what to do, im not telling her what to do.
You're being defensive. You're not gonna win the game if you don't expand.



Also, I whole-heartedly second what Fen said*.
(even though I must add that I don't have experience with rape myself so I don't really "KNOW" either)
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"You dont know what shes going through. You are not qualified to tell her what to do.
...
If your angry at her because she lost her virginity, then you are the worlds biggest asshole. If you cannot see why she might have hidden the fact from you, then you are the worlds biggest retard."
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
October 20 2008 01:01 GMT
#50
fgsvsd here i give u a cyber cookie
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do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
fgsvsd
Profile Joined June 2007
Switzerland348 Posts
October 20 2008 02:42 GMT
#51
On October 20 2008 10:01 Elvin_vn wrote:
fgsvsd here i give u a cyber cookie
[image loading]
For me?! How thoughtful. Why, thank you!

You even thought of including a picture incase I didn't know what a cookie was. Good boy. *pats head*
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 20 2008 03:47 GMT
#52
nah i agree, shes fucking stupid for not reporting it but its not like im going to ache her into reporting it every fucking day. she doesnt like me mentioning about that to her.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 20 2008 03:55 GMT
#53
On October 20 2008 07:46 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 07:34 Raithed wrote:

you know, shes really dodgy in terms that i would ask her something and i always have to change the subject because im random like that and she would just answer my random question instead of my question asking her about the subject. and i dont really know how to ask her about that, like, would i just go "would you and (the other girl) go to police about this?" i mean i asked her the night she told me and she said she didnt think of the seriousness of it.. WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?


When the things people say make no sense/are confusing like that, it's generally due to dishonesty.

God, you know what's a sure fire sign of bullshit when a girl is talking about a relationship? "It's complicated." That's like instantly making an accurate label of Lying Dumb Bitch for yourself.

What I hate so much, is when you call them out on their shit, and they act offended like they're mad at you for not being retarded. Good lord, lol. People make mistakes, it's better to be honest about them than to try and fool people into thinking you're infallible... It's just insulting to my intelligence, and the only friends you're going to keep are going to be extremely dull witted. Oh well lol.

If people would just yield my Door Walking philosophy, there would be a lot fewer rapes in the world.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 20 2008 04:55 GMT
#54
On October 20 2008 12:47 Raithed wrote:
nah i agree, shes fucking stupid for not reporting it but its not like im going to ache her into reporting it every fucking day. she doesnt like me mentioning about that to her.

I'll just say that considering how many women choose not to say anything (it's a lot), you shouldn't just look at it like it's a smart/dumb decision. Yeah, she probably did the wrong thing by being quiet, but it's an enormously difficult decision with incredible circumstances and you'll probably never go through anything that comes close to it.

Just accept that you don't understand it and don't cast judgment on that decision.
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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
October 20 2008 06:01 GMT
#55
umm is this the girl you're writing a song for?
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 20 2008 07:34 GMT
#56
On October 20 2008 15:01 yubee wrote:
umm is this the girl you're writing a song for?

no.
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