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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
September 27 2008 23:39 GMT
#1
My ATI radeon died yesterday (basically the fan died and the card followed) so I bought a cheap AGP replacement - an nvidia 6200a (they didnt have any ATI cards and I was in a hurry).

I plugged the card, installed the nvidia drivers from the CD, uninstalled the ati drivers and everything was working fine. Today, everything seemed to be fine too, but only for like 5 hours. Then my computer started freezing.

Basically it's working very, very slowly - for example switching the windows takes around 10 seconds, when I type something each letter shows up after a second or so etc. According to my research something is using nearly 100% processor time. The process causing it is "system". According to process explorer, system process is bloated with 'deferred procedure calls' (DPCs?). It didnt take me a lot of time to find that a lot of people have the same problem. There is actually a 45 (!) page thread where a lot of people are complaining that they have the problem and that a solution is unkown - at least through the first 20 pages (http://forum.sysinternals.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=837&PN=19). Apparently nvidia is a shitty manufacturer; anyway, according to the thread reinstalling the drivers has helped for some people. This is the part where I need help - how am I supposed to reinstall the bloody drivers.

The first problem is choosing the proper ones; I have no fucking idea what version do I have now - it isnt listed in the "nvidia settings" thingie (near the clock); according to device manager I'm using 6.14.11.6906.

This is kinda strange, because there are no such drivers at the nvidia website:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/
Every driver seems to newer.

Or maybe, I should interpret it as 61.4? or 161.4?
...

Anyway, there is an update option in that "nvidia settings" thingie which sends me to:
http://www.nvidia.pl/Download/index.aspx?lang=en
Which option should I choose? 1 - choose the drivers individually (recommended), or 2 - find the drivers automatically (prerelease)
WTF does the prerelease mean? Prerelease drivers? Or new option at the website?
It doesnt work anyway..
Well, I download 178.13_geforce_winxp_32bit_english_whql.exe through the website (178>6, I agree).

My problem is that the drivers DONT FUCKING INSTALL. I click the exe, Im told to select a directory (duh), then they install like every fucking program I installed during the last 10 years. After some time the installer asks for a reboot. After the reboot everything is even more fucked up - windows is working in recovery mode (800:600 256 colours) and the drivers seem not to be installed at all (no 'nvidia settings thingie').

I've decided to try 77.35 (hey, 177 is higher than 6, right?) and actually "nvidia installer" showed up after the reboot.

The installer shows a strange message: "it has been detected that a windows installer is running. would you like to install the drivers? press yes to close windows installer, press no to quit".
Am I a fucking moron, or do both options lead to not installing the drivers?

Actually they fucking do, because I fucking rebooted 5 times and tested each possibility (e.g closing the damn windows installer window). None of them worked and I've always ended up seeing the nice windows recovery mode.

My question is, which drivers should I download then?

Im having big problems in typing this, because the computer keeps crashing (not to mention the weird resolution). The good thing is that without the drivers there seem to be no "deferred procedure calls".

Perhaps any of you has also bought the shit called nvidia and encountered a similar problem; sorry for swearing but I have lost last 6 hours for that piece of garbage
nvidia seems to be such a crappy company - they manufacture crappy cards, write crappy drivers for them, with installers that seem not to work, and upload them at a website that does not work.
I think I will give the card back and ask for a radeon..

HELP : ( : ( : (

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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 28 2008 02:18 GMT
#2
just uninstall everything. uninstall nvidia drivers from add or remove programs and also uninstall the device (Geforce 6200 under display adapters) through the Device Manager. Reboot, then install the drivers from the CD.
blabberrrrr
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-28 02:27:38
September 28 2008 02:25 GMT
#3
drivers from the CD are buggy and outdated; they seem to be conflicting with other drivers, thus I need newer drivers - which dont install for some weird reason
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 28 2008 02:37 GMT
#4
k then might as well try http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_178.13_whql.html after you uninstall everything
blabberrrrr
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
September 28 2008 03:40 GMT
#5
Eww 6200 such a shit card better then nothing Google "clean boot" check the first Microsoft help page.

Do a clean boot uninstall the drivers do another clean boot install the latest drivers from the nvidia.com page. It's not a laptop so the latest drivers are on nvidia.com
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
September 28 2008 04:54 GMT
#6
Contact Windows, Im pretty sure they would help, unlike APPLE -.-
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-28 13:30:05
September 28 2008 12:52 GMT
#7
On September 28 2008 11:37 blabber wrote:
k then might as well try http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_178.13_whql.html after you uninstall everything


I uninstalled everything (again) in safe mode; then used a program called 'driver sweeper' to delete anything that could have been left. Then I opened the drivers you recommended (in fact I had downloaded and tried them allready). I double clicked them, they've started installing and after a reboot the system runs in something similar to 800:600 256 colour - and I cant change it.
The nvidia helper seems to be missing too.
In the device manager I see an "nvidia 6200" with drivers 6.14.something

I dont know what to do now - my only observation is the fact that when I run my comp in "vga mode" by pressing F8 (with the "buggdy CD" drivers) the system seemed to be running fine.

On September 28 2008 12:40 IzzyCraft wrote:
Eww 6200 such a shit card better then nothing Google "clean boot" check the first Microsoft help page.

Do a clean boot uninstall the drivers do another clean boot install the latest drivers from the nvidia.com page. It's not a laptop so the latest drivers are on nvidia.com


They dont work. As if the installation did not complete or something. Is there any way to download them as "inf" files, so I could update them manually? Or do they always come with some shitty installer which simply doesnt seem to work...


edit:
the 'new' drivers (you guys recommend and other) create catalogs on the harddrive nvidia\number
there are a lot of files in these catalogs, but they dont include any executables nor "inf" files that would allow me to install the files manually; I have no idea wtf is happening - is their installer shitty that it does not unpack all files? at the cd, there is a similar catalog with an nv4_disp.inf file plus some executables; Im thinking about copying them and trying to install a "mixed driver" - seriously wtf is happening, I can barely type this post, becaue firefox keeps crashing
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