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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
Supporting Dino is like saying you support Islamic extremists and suicide bombers. I don't see how it could possibly generate any meaningful discussion, so thus you're going to get banned. America is a democracy, but terrorists still get thrown into jail, so your analogy sucks balls. | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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XCetron
5226 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:04 Frits wrote: You act as if the veterans started out with 3000 posts, the only reason we got to those postcounts is because we don't post like shit all the time and use logical reasoning when entering arguments. Survival of the fittest. Look at my post count. | ||
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FreeDoM[YA]
Canada855 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:15 azndsh wrote: are you dense? people have already explained it to you... Supporting Dino is like saying you support Islamic extremists and suicide bombers. I don't see how it could possibly generate any meaningful discussion, so thus you're going to get banned. America is a democracy, but terrorists still get thrown into jail, so your analogy sucks balls. I know that there's a possibility that I'll get banned however Islamic ezxtremists and suicide bombers? WTF? YOUR analogy sucks balls. I just think it's controversy and I feel it's slightly unfair. | ||
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:04 Frits wrote: You act as if the veterans started out with 3000 posts, the only reason we got to those postcounts is because we don't post like shit all the time and use logical reasoning when entering arguments. Survival of the fittest. That's absolute bull-shit. Some people prefer not to post in every fucking thread and be here for a respectable time without even getting a warning. My post count isn't huge by any means, when I see people jump from 0-1000 in under a month because they post in every thread. Post count should not mean as much as it fucking does. I for one am not a fan of dino, I know him he's not that bad of a guy, but I cannot deny the fact he hacked. But to ban people for the reason of we are talking about a hacker is just absurd. I for one am starting to get a little disgusted with some of the admin's power trips. I have been a member of this site since Tuesday, 11th of April 2006. Not once gotten a warning, yet i still have just over 1300 posts. Does that exclude me from being a veteran? There should honestly be more than post count to judge a person before being banned. If say for example Incontrol said the same things faust said he would not have been banned. The thing is everyone is trying to state an opinion and in one case I watched a guy support his opinion and then eventually give up on it and still get banned. Why? He choose to throw his opinion away. Now I see people getting banned for voicing their own opinions. The admin's have a job to do yes, but banning people because they do not like that persons opinion? Maybe the staff needs a little more unity, maybe a little more staff opinion, maybe a revamp of the ban policy I do not know. I am sure that they have a policy they keep out of the publics eye. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
I agree with TL's policy on hackers, and supporters of hackers. Purging the idiots and cheaters out of a gaming community is essential. | ||
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FreeDoM[YA]
Canada855 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:18 Aurious wrote: That's absolute bull-shit. Some people prefer not to post in every fucking thread and be here for a respectable time without even getting a warning. My post count isn't huge by any means, when I see people jump from 0-1000 in under a month because they post in every thread. Post count should not mean as much as it fucking does. I for one am not a fan of dino, I know him he's not that bad of a guy, but I cannot deny the fact he hacked. But to ban people for the reason of we are talking about a hacker is just absurd. I for one am starting to get a little disgusted with some of the admin's power trips. I have been a member of this site since Tuesday, 11th of April 2006. Not once gotten a warning, yet i still have just over 1300 posts. Does that exclude me from being a veteran? There should honestly be more than post count to judge a person before being banned. If say for example Incontrol said the same things faust said he would not have been banned. The thing is everyone is trying to state an opinion and in one case I watched a guy support his opinion and then eventually give up on it and still get banned. Why? He choose to throw his opinion away. Now I see people getting banned for voicing their own opinions. The admin's have a job to do yes, but banning people because they do not like that persons opinion? Maybe the staff needs a little more unity, maybe a little more staff opinion, maybe a revamp of the ban policy I do not know. I am sure that they have a policy they keep out of the publics eye. Is there anyone with a high postcount defending dino? Survival of the fittest, I'm telling you. | ||
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:20 fanatacist wrote: Who cares what you deem it. The fact of the matter is, hackers are cancer in this society. People who support hackers support hacking. Supporting cancer is fucking stupid. Similarly, supporting hacking is stupid and damaging to the community. Because of people like you and other "fans" (I don't understand how you can be a fan of something that is achieved through cheating, unless you are a douchebag) of Dino, hackers think that what they are doing is more or less okay since there are people who will support them anyways, right? Well, fuck that. I agree with TL's policy on hackers, and supporters of hackers. Purging the idiots and cheaters out of a gaming community is essential. Yes purge the idiots and cheaters, don't purge the people voicing their opinions on the matter though. Sure you could classify the people voicing their opinions idiots, but who are you to judge another opinion? | ||
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:22 Frits wrote: Is there anyone with a high postcount defending dino? Survival of the fittest, I'm telling you. All it is, is people who voice a mutual opinion. I for one deem some of those bans unjust. | ||
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Yaqoob
Canada3408 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:15 azndsh wrote: are you dense? people have already explained it to you... Supporting Dino is like saying you support Islamic extremists and suicide bombers. I don't see how it could possibly generate any meaningful discussion, so thus you're going to get banned. America is a democracy, but terrorists still get thrown into jail, so your analogy sucks balls. What's an islaamic extremist? ![[image loading]](http://www.muslimconverts.com/hijab_niqab/niqab.jpg) Someone whose wife covers like this. ![[image loading]](http://wolfpangloss.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/1140hamidaliportrait.jpg) The guy dresses like this [with the big beard]. I dont mean dress like this in Kuwait/Saudi Arabia or in any random arab countries. I mean someone who would dress like that in Canada/USA/Britian and his wife dresses like above because they want to and practicing their religion. Is those people Islaamic extremists? edit: Of course those people should be banned from tl.net too lol | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:15 MYM.Testie wrote: When Israel was in Egypt’s land, Let My people go! Oppressed so hard they could not stand, Let My people go! Go down, Moses, Way down in Egypt’s land; Tell old Pharaoh To let My people go! No more shall they in bondage toil, Let My people go! Let them come out with Egypt’s spoil, Let My people go! Oh, let us all from bondage flee, Let My people go! And let us all in Christ be free, Let My people go! You need not always weep and mourn, Let My people go! And wear these slav’ry chains forlorn, Let My people go! Your foes shall not before you stand, Let My people go! And you’ll possess fair Canaan’s land, Let My people go! sounds like a dino fan to me, better ban =P | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:23 Aurious wrote: Yes purge the idiots and cheaters, don't purge the people voicing their opinions on the matter though. Sure you could classify the people voicing their opinions idiots, but who are you to judge another opinion? In general you would be right, it is not my place to judge another's opinion. It is the moderators' jobs to do that. A person who is stubborn in voicing an opinion that is widely seen as stupid or inflammatory will get punished. If I were to go down the street yelling "KILL THE JEWS, THEY ARE THE DOWNFALL OF THIS COUNTRY!" it is just me voicing my opinion, right? Who can judge me for it? Unfortunately it is a stupid opinion, and is punishable. However, this is not even a general case. It is very clear that hackers deserve to be banned. I think you agree with me on this. If hackers are banned, but people are still supporting hackers, aren't they damaging the community as much as the hackers are? Just because they didn't install and run the program themselves, they still support the same idea that cheating is okay, and possibly that hackers shouldn't be punished for what they've done. Voicing this pro-hacker opinion on an anti-hacker gaming website and starting arguments over it is just as stupid as walking down the street in America spewing hateful slurs that undermine the nation's principles of equality. | ||
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:23 Aurious wrote: Yes purge the idiots and cheaters, don't purge the people voicing their opinions on the matter though. Sure you could classify the people voicing their opinions idiots, but who are you to judge another opinion? It's like voicing your opinion on pro-racism. There may be a community for it, but that's not here. Freedom of speech is definitely not absolute. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
-where all the "dino-fans" got banned | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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SonuvBob
Aiur21552 Posts
On August 25 2008 03:27 Yaqoob wrote: What's an islaamic extremist? Someone whose wife covers like this. The guy dresses like this [with the big beard]. I dont mean dress like this in Kuwait/Saudi Arabia or in any random arab countries. I mean someone who would dress like that in Canada/USA/Britian and his wife dresses like above because they want to and practicing their religion. Is those people Islaamic extremists? No, they are not. Stop trolling. | ||
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RaiZ
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
It's the fact that most of the moderators of this forum should probably put a little more into what should be a ban and what shouldn't. Members who have super high post counts should not have diplomatic immunity. Sure they will always get more lee-way than a person who has less than 1000 posts but should also factor in time as well. Of course freedom of speech has it's limits and the moderators are here to keep that in line and we don't want a super polluted forum. If a person is damaging the community and actually fully supporting it sure fine by me. If they are just voicing a opinion that goes against the majority, that should never ever be a ban unless it is just plain stupid. Dino won't be someone accepted into the community very quickly, but he shows he can still compete well with some of the higher end USA gamers without the use of hacks. I don't support the way Dino competes or people who worship him, but I am still able to see that people change. There are two good example of this in Testie and Trek, sure I wasn't around when they hacked but I know about most of the situation. Maybe Dino's willing to change, maybe not. Just power-trips need to stop. | ||
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