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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-12 03:56:22
July 11 2008 17:02 GMT
#1
So, I just got into a fight with my Best friends mum...

Atm I am quite drunk so this post might be edited but heres the gist of it. We went and drank at one of my (best) friends house. It was all good until another of my friends got really drunk and needed to yak. So I took it apon myself to look after him. Took him to the bathrooom and watched over him as he was sick. This is kinda in my nature. Im currently studying medicine becuase this is the kinda stuff I want to get into, looking after people when they are unable to look after themselvevs.

So In comes the problem. My friends mother, whos house we are at, comes into the bathroom and starts ripping into my friend about how fucking useless he is and how he fucking is irresponsible etc. Of course this infuriates me. And I pretty much tell her she is a hearless bitch and she should fuck off (knowing that it is her house, but fucking no-one talks to my friends that way). So after a bit of pissed off arguing, she leaves, and my friend is all like, wtf man, why did you do that, shes going to hate you. And I tell him I just dont give a flying fuck. If someone is going to attack my friend, I will fucking defend him.

So, I just got home, its early in the morning or late at night, however you want to look at it. I think my friends mother is a fucking bitch and hope she dies in a hole. My friend is pissed off at me becuase he knows that he is going to take the heat of what I said to his mum tonight. And another of my friends is sitting there passed out snoring.

Ok so thanks for reading. I just had to vent about this, because I know Im goin to face this later. and I just dont care about my friend's mum's opinion. Like I understand that its her house and its fucking gross, but you do not fucking have a go at my friend when I am around, because it infuriates me and I will put you down (btw one of my best skills is making someone feel bad, so I will not lose this fight if we go at it when sober).

Anyways, post whatver you want. Up your post count if you want. Or offern advice. Im interested in what you have to say TL1!!

EDIT: LOL

Ok, I'll leave that up and wont edit it for the sake of people being able to refer back to it if they want and having a good laugh.

It seems that in my anger last night, I might have exagerrated the facts... A lot.

So a sober recount of what actually happend.
We were drinking. One of my friends got drunk and started throwing up. I decided I would look after him and did. At some point, my friends mother (Not the mother of the one who was throwing up) comes in and starts telling my friend how bloody stupid he is (Which he is, I dont throw up from alcohol consumption because it is stupid, there is no point getting that drunk). However she doesnt stop. She just keeps ripping into him. After a little while I look at her and say "ok" in a kinda 'we get the point' type of manner. She turns to me and says "no, this is just really irresponsible etc." and keeps on going. My friend is just sitting there on the floor in tears. So I stand up, and say "look that is NOT constructive, you are NOT helping here". To which she scowls at me and then leaves.

"And I pretty much tell her she is a hearless bitch and she should fuck off" So ok, this sentence is lol, and requires a bit of exaggeration to make sense.

I did NOT yell at her.

I went over today and said I was sorry about last night, she said it was ok and that we're cool. She said she wasnt angry at me, she was just angry at the fact my friend had gone and thrown up in her bathroom sink (which is fair, id be pretty pissed off as well).


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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
July 11 2008 17:05 GMT
#2
her being wrong does not make you right.
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
July 11 2008 17:05 GMT
#3
BF !=best friend.
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 17:07 GMT
#4
On July 12 2008 02:05 dinmsab wrote:
BF !=best friend.


I know, But I needed some hook to get you guys to read...
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 17:14:19
July 11 2008 17:13 GMT
#5
Your friend starts puking in a woman's bathroom, she gets upset and yells at the loser who can't hold his liquor, and you think you're being some righteous defendant friend and she's some "heartless" bitch?

She has every right to yell at him. I'm surprised she didn't kick you out of her house after giving your ass a good beating. Where the hell is this kids dad, letting some drunk tool yell at his wife in her own house?
8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
July 11 2008 17:14 GMT
#6
lol? "noone talks to my friends like that"

its his mom..i dont care who you are haha you just dont do that :/

now i dont know you but..ill leave there ;'p

DONT DO THAT simple

anger management maybe..or i could scarab your face
I 3 pooled your mom with a napping drone, then scarabed her face. GG
8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
July 11 2008 17:15 GMT
#7
On July 12 2008 02:13 Snet wrote:
Your friend starts puking in a woman's bathroom, she gets upset and yells at the loser who can't hold his liquor, and you think you're being some righteous defendant friend and she's some "heartless" bitch?

She has every right to yell at him. I'm surprised she didn't kick you out of her house after giving your ass a good beating. Where the hell is this kids dad, letting some drunk tool yell at his wife in her own house?


well said..GG
I 3 pooled your mom with a napping drone, then scarabed her face. GG
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
July 11 2008 17:20 GMT
#8
I totally agree with Snet, you dont talk to people like that.. especially when your in their home. If I was your best friend I would totally punch you in the face for saying that to my mum. Like seriously, she has the right to get pissed.. she pays for his food/internet/housing so she expects better than that.
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UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
July 11 2008 17:20 GMT
#9
Yeah... it was his mom. The lady had every fucking right to yell at him!

She was probably saying the truth as well, If you get so drunk that you are puking that is pretty irresponsible.
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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
July 11 2008 17:22 GMT
#10
On July 12 2008 02:13 Snet wrote:
She has every right to yell at him. I'm surprised she didn't kick you out of her house after giving your ass a good beating. Where the hell is this kids dad, letting some drunk tool yell at his wife in her own house?


When i was like 9 i once saw one of my fathers employee yelling at my mother when we had a small garden party. He fucked that guy up completely. This guy could have yelled at her out on the street and my father would just walk away, but the fact that this guy yelled at her in our house was unforgivable for my father.

Your story, i don't even know where to start...
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 17:27 GMT
#11
Ok, just to make sure, It wasnt the guy who was throwing up's mum. It was the guys whos place we were at's mum.

And fuck off about that anger management shit. I was with my friend who was in a bad way, he was feeling guilty and embrassed, and some bithc comes in and starts bitching about him yacking in her bathroom?????

Another person yacked in that bathroom tonight, and she didnt give a shit about her.

My friend was REALLY in a bad way, as In I was REALLY conteplating calling the ambulance. I was very thankful that I didnt need to. And all the time she was sitting there bitching. Sure you can be angry that a kid got drunk and yacked in your bathroom, but dont fucking rub it in. Hes feeling bad enough as it is. Absolultely no compassion whatso-fucking-ever
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 17:30:51
July 11 2008 17:30 GMT
#12
edit: n/m
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
July 11 2008 17:32 GMT
#13
On July 12 2008 02:27 Fen wrote:
Ok, just to make sure, It wasnt the guy who was throwing up's mum. It was the guys whos place we were at's mum.

And fuck off about that anger management shit. I was with my friend who was in a bad way, he was feeling guilty and embrassed, and some bithc comes in and starts bitching about him yacking in her bathroom?????

Another person yacked in that bathroom tonight, and she didnt give a shit about her.

My friend was REALLY in a bad way, as In I was REALLY conteplating calling the ambulance. I was very thankful that I didnt need to. And all the time she was sitting there bitching. Sure you can be angry that a kid got drunk and yacked in your bathroom, but dont fucking rub it in. Hes feeling bad enough as it is. Absolultely no compassion whatso-fucking-ever


Thats an even better reason to scold someone... She fucking owns the property. If someone came to my place and started to make a mess in my toilet I would totally start yelling at people myself. Hell, you can shoot people if they trespass on your property, yelling at them is nothing.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
July 11 2008 17:37 GMT
#14
On July 12 2008 02:22 Jayson X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 02:13 Snet wrote:
She has every right to yell at him. I'm surprised she didn't kick you out of her house after giving your ass a good beating. Where the hell is this kids dad, letting some drunk tool yell at his wife in her own house?


When i was like 9 i once saw one of my fathers employee yelling at my mother when we had a small garden party. He fucked that guy up completely. This guy could have yelled at her out on the street and my father would just walk away, but the fact that this guy yelled at her in our house was unforgivable for my father.

Your story, i don't even know where to start...


Seriously, you're lucky as shit you didn't get your teeth put down your throat by the kids dad.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 11 2008 17:41 GMT
#15
Your friend's mom is right, your friend is a pathetic loser. I fucking hate people who drink so much they vomit. Know your damn limit for Christ sakes. Even drinking just a little under your limit is lame, because then you're lethargic, lazy, and just want to go to sleep, which means you're no fun to be around.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 17:45 GMT
#16
On July 12 2008 02:32 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 02:27 Fen wrote:
Ok, just to make sure, It wasnt the guy who was throwing up's mum. It was the guys whos place we were at's mum.

And fuck off about that anger management shit. I was with my friend who was in a bad way, he was feeling guilty and embrassed, and some bithc comes in and starts bitching about him yacking in her bathroom?????

Another person yacked in that bathroom tonight, and she didnt give a shit about her.

My friend was REALLY in a bad way, as In I was REALLY conteplating calling the ambulance. I was very thankful that I didnt need to. And all the time she was sitting there bitching. Sure you can be angry that a kid got drunk and yacked in your bathroom, but dont fucking rub it in. Hes feeling bad enough as it is. Absolultely no compassion whatso-fucking-ever


She fucking owns the property. If someone came to my place and started to make a mess in my toilet I would totally start yelling at people myself. Hell, you can shoot people if they trespass on your property, yelling at them is nothing.


Thats why I live in a civilised country,,,

Look heres the deal. Ill defend my friend on principal. Ill aplogise tommorow, because I can understand that it would be frustrating to her. The fact remains that in her lifetime she has DEFINATELY done stupid shit like this, and she should be a little bit more understanding.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
July 11 2008 17:50 GMT
#17
On July 12 2008 02:41 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Your friend's mom is right, your friend is a pathetic loser. I fucking hate people who drink so much they vomit. Know your damn limit for Christ sakes. Even drinking just a little under your limit is lame, because then you're lethargic, lazy, and just want to go to sleep, which means you're no fun to be around.


...Pathetic loser? shit happens, calm down..
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 17:52 GMT
#18
On July 12 2008 02:41 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Your friend's mom is right, your friend is a pathetic loser. I fucking hate people who drink so much they vomit. Know your damn limit for Christ sakes. Even drinking just a little under your limit is lame, because then you're lethargic, lazy, and just want to go to sleep, which means you're no fun to be around.


Have you ever vomited because of alcohol consumption?

If yes, then your a hypocrit.

If no, then you dont know what the fuck your talking about
boe_N
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States57 Posts
July 11 2008 17:53 GMT
#19
On July 12 2008 02:27 Fen wrote:
And fuck off about that anger management shit. I was with my friend who was in a bad way, he was feeling guilty and embrassed, and some bithc comes in and starts bitching about him yacking in her bathroom?????


Obviously she's not just "some bithc". First of all, like you said, it's HER bathroom. Secondly, she and this other person evidently have some kind of history - it sounds like they've known and possibly despised each other for quite some time. Is it really your business to impose upon whatever's between them so forcefully?

At any rate, you're hurting one friendship and acting vigilante in another.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 18:03 GMT
#20
On July 12 2008 02:53 boe_N wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 02:27 Fen wrote:
And fuck off about that anger management shit. I was with my friend who was in a bad way, he was feeling guilty and embrassed, and some bithc comes in and starts bitching about him yacking in her bathroom?????


Obviously she's not just "some bithc". First of all, like you said, it's HER bathroom. Secondly, she and this other person evidently have some kind of history - it sounds like they've known and possibly despised each other for quite some time. Is it really your business to impose upon whatever's between them so forcefully?

At any rate, you're hurting one friendship and acting vigilante in another.


Ill defend my friends because they are simply my friends, regardless if they are in the wrong of right. If they are in the right, ill back em up. If they are in the wrong Ill, try and lessen the blow. My friend was obviously in the wrong tonight, but I think getting put down is not a constructive way to go about things.. (guess I need to add more info... My friend who got drunk has quite low self esteem.) My friend does no make a habit of getting drunk and throwing up at other people's houses. To be exact, Ive hung out with this guy since we started drinkng together (about 4 years). And Ive never seen him yack at someone elses house before. Hes a good guy, and I think what he was recieveing was not what he deserved.

The question in my mind, is what would have happended if I had just stood back and let her rip into him... Im sure that would have been a great experience. He couldnt stand up forhimself, as a mate, ill stand up for him instead,
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 11 2008 18:21 GMT
#21

Have you ever vomited because of alcohol consumption?

If yes, then your a hypocrit.

If no, then you dont know what the fuck your talking about

No, and I'm the type of person that likes drinking about a cup of vodka in 30 seconds, so I do know what I've talking about. Once I drank a lot of wine a little too fast, and felt sick, so I took it easy and didn't drink anymore, because I'm not a dumb ass. Someone who vomits from alcohol consumption just ruins a good time everyone else might have been having because now they have to take care of his dumb ass. The fact is, the warning signs you've drank a little too much are there long before you actually need to vomit.

What the guys mom did was perfectly logical and constructive. In psychology, it's called negative reinforcement. You do something wrong, you get punished. The idea is that because you don't want to be punished again, you won't do it again. It's authoritative parenting (even though it isn't her son), it's been around a long time, and it generally does work as long as the punishment is appropriate to the offence. It's better he gets yelled at now, than punched in the face later by someone less lenient.

If that guy's Dad were around, you probably would have gotten a lesson too But you didn't, so now you're making stupid threads on TL.net complaining about something that's your own fault. Who knows what's going to happen to you when you act up and it's not just your friend's Dad?
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
July 11 2008 18:25 GMT
#22
defending something that is clearly wrong is just stupid. Also, how is yelling back at the owner of the house somehow "lessen the blow"? Standing up and retaliating aren't exactly the same thing, I think your principles need some reevaluating. What you could've done is apologize to the woman and try to explain it.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 18:29:53
July 11 2008 18:28 GMT
#23
You coulda "lessened the blow" by telling the mom that this is clearly the wrong time to be yelling at the kid (he's totally drunk and vomiting and helpless), not by calling her a bitch and telling her to fuck off.
Use your logic and reasoning and judgment rather than wild emotions of anger.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
July 11 2008 18:30 GMT
#24
yeah no, you are wrong Fen. you do not speak to anyone that way, ESPECIALLY if its in her house.

in your place, you should have apologized for your friend for throwing up in her house, explained the situation and asked her to back off because he's sick. after hearing that, most reasonable people would bitch about how irresponsible he is and then leave. you didnt need to say anything more than that.

the dumb fuck was irresponsible. if thats the worst she could say about him, she was all in the right.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 18:33:31
July 11 2008 18:31 GMT
#25
On July 12 2008 03:21 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +

Have you ever vomited because of alcohol consumption?

If yes, then your a hypocrit.

If no, then you dont know what the fuck your talking about

No, and I'm the type of person that likes drinking about a cup of vodka in 30 seconds, so I do know what I've talking about. Once I drank a lot of wine a little too fast, and felt sick, so I took it easy and didn't drink anymore, because I'm not a dumb ass. Someone who vomits from alcohol consumption just ruins a good time everyone else might have been having because now they have to take care of his dumb ass. The fact is, the warning signs you've drank a little too much are there long before you actually need to vomit.

What the guys mom did was perfectly logical and constructive. In psychology, it's called negative reinforcement. You do something wrong, you get punished. The idea is that because you don't want to be punished again, you won't do it again. It's authoritative parenting (even though it isn't her son), it's been around a long time, and it generally does work as long as the punishment is appropriate to the offence. It's better he gets yelled at now, than punched in the face later by someone less lenient.

If that guy's Dad were around, you probably would have gotten a lesson too But you didn't, so now you're making stupid threads on TL.net complaining about something that's your own fault. Who knows what's going to happen to you when you act up and it's not just your friend's Dad?


Ok, I understand your point (Im sobering up as we speak). I myself have never yacked because of alcohol consumption, at my own house or at a friends house. The point was, Im not going to stand by and let my friend get just put down over and over, its just not right. Ok, had she had bitched the next day, then I would have understood. But as far as I was concerned, he was defenseless at the time, and you dont just ripp into someone whos defenseless.

As for the guys dad, not an issue. My friends mum has a Boyfriend who was there at the time, but he stayed back and resevered. I think hes a fucking pussy for not standing up for his girl at the time, but I also believe that he was under the impression that his girlfriend was in the wrong. Which is true.

Sure you can be unhappy about someone who drank too much in your house and yacked. But you dont kick a guy when he's down. And thats what she was doing. So I had to step in and defend him.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
July 11 2008 18:34 GMT
#26
or maybe he felt sorry for you 2 and dont want to rip you guys. Being drunk and all I don't think hed have too much trouble calling police to clean you two up.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 18:35:49
July 11 2008 18:34 GMT
#27
and lol "thats why i live in a civilised country"

is the USA not civilized?

you can shoot people trespassing on your property who "pose a threat" and after considerable warning.

pose a thread is in quotes because its incredibly flexible and open to lots of interpretation. simply not backing down after being asked to leave iirc is threat enough.


just the other day in the south, someones neighbor was being robbed, he watched the robbers come, vandalize the neighbors house, called the cops, was on the phone with them as they vandalized the house, watched the robbers start leaving, the cops hadnt shown up, as soon as the robbers stepped on his property on their way out of the neighbors house, he shot them while the cops were still on the line. Killed two of them, He faces no charges.


you dont rip on someone who's defenseless,
thats why you tell her not to
not curse at her. know your place.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
July 11 2008 18:35 GMT
#28
and the BF didnt say anything because its not his place, i assume its not his house. not because she was in the wrong.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 18:41:04
July 11 2008 18:37 GMT
#29
and i disagree about your idea that someone vomiting ruins the time.

i have thrown up countless times from drinking too much

i deal wiht my shit on my own. i can go to the bathroom and puke for a few minutes. clean myself up and return to the party and pose no kind of burden to anyone else. its not the "he drank himself stupid and was irresponsible", its the person as a whole. not his or her drinking habits.



(this is all at school, communal restroom)
i once drank myself so stupid i was caught by the police and taken to a medical center. people watched after me on their own accord, at no point did i appear to need care, i think, because i could always stand and held my consciousness perfectly well. i was hanging out in the bathroom because i felt ill, one of my friends came to take a piss and didnt leave because he didnt know how i was. he thought i may pass out, but i didnt.

i woke up in a medical center at 10 and blew a .2. I was goooonnee. but the rest of the party carried on.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 18:40 GMT
#30
On July 12 2008 03:34 Gene wrote:
and lol "thats why i live in a civilised country"

is the USA not civilized?

you can shoot people trespassing on your property who "pose a threat" and after considerable warning.

pose a thread is in quotes because its incredibly flexible and open to lots of interpretation. simply not backing down after being asked to leave iirc is threat enough.


just the other day in the south, someones neighbor was being robbed, he watched the robbers come, vandalize the neighbors house, called the cops, was on the phone with them as they vandalized the house, watched the robbers start leaving, the cops hadnt shown up, as soon as the robbers stepped on his property on their way out of the neighbors house, he shot them while the cops were still on the line. Killed two of them, He faces no charges.


you dont rip on someone who's defenseless,
thats why you tell her not to
not curse at her. know your place.


Look there is no need to encourage vigilantes. I think the whole idea of everyone having a right to a gun is fucking retarded. America has the highest gun related deaths numbers in the world for a reason, and it has to do with that stupid fucking way of thinking.

This is not the point however. The reason he stood back was because there is very little that your going to accomplish by doing what she was doing. My friend was not going to remmember shit, I of course would have remmebered it as the night my friends mum ripped into a defenseless guy becuase she lost control of her rationality and emotions.

Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 11 2008 18:42 GMT
#31

i have thrown up countless times from drinking too much

Do people often mispronounce your name "pussy?" Jk
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
July 11 2008 18:43 GMT
#32
Yea, defend your home with a gun is stupid but yelling at someone because theyre angry that someone is messing up their property is not.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
July 11 2008 18:44 GMT
#33
he deserved it, he was an irresponsible prick making a mess out of her bathroom.

now she has to clean and disinfect her shit. your friend lost control of his stomach and responsibility. being yelled at was the least of his problems. if he's underage, he deserved to be taken to the cops.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 18:52:25
July 11 2008 18:49 GMT
#34
On July 12 2008 03:44 Gene wrote:
if he's underage, he deserved to be taken to the cops.


(for the record he is of legal age) Ok, I just have no words for this remark. It is that stupid.

This basically says one of two things.
"Im not of legal drinking age and have never had alcohol"
or
"Im of legal drinking age, yet never drank until I reached the appropriate age"

If these are wrong, then you are a hypocrit. Most people will drink before they are legally allowed to. It doesnt mean they are bad people. It just means that they wish to try something new.

EDIT: Ok, just read a previous post from you which said you did get soo drunk you had to go to a medical center. So as far as I can see, your the ultimate hipocrit.

Also, we cleaned up the bathroom pretty good. The vomit only went into the sink and that was cleaned up pretty promptly.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 18:52:07
July 11 2008 18:51 GMT
#35
no,
i am underage.
i have drank irresponsibly, and when i did, like i detailed, i went to the cops.

every other time i drank, i was responsible enough to not drink too much, and even more, i never threw up in someone elses house.

it is not that stupid. its that simple.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 18:55 GMT
#36
On July 12 2008 03:51 Gene wrote:
no,
i am underage.
i have drank irresponsibly, and when i did, like i detailed, i went to the cops.

every other time i drank, i was responsible enough to not drink too much, and even more, i never threw up in someone elses house.

it is not that stupid. its that simple.


Ive seen my friend get drunk enough to yack twice. Once when he was at his own house, and tonight. He doesnt do this all the time. It was a one off thing where he succumbed to peer pressure from my friend (whos mother I got into a fight with).

Seeing as you underage, I can understand your viewpoint. I would say that a lack of experience makes up you current opinion. I think with time and more drinking experience, your viewpoint will change a bit.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 19:00:25
July 11 2008 18:56 GMT
#37
The direction of debates are becoming off.

All I'm going to say, Fen, is that if I were the mom, I would totally beat both of you up and kick you out of the house, conscious or not, period.

If you are still trying to hold on to your "argument" about "defending" your friend, after all the numerous replies here, telling that you are wrong, then so be it.

We can't forcely change what you think, but if you don't see the pattern of the replies here and why, then there isn't much that we can do, nor that you will be able to convince us that what you have done is right.

It is not.
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 19:04 GMT
#38
On July 12 2008 03:56 Fishball wrote:
The direction of debates are getting off.

All I'm going to say, Fen, is that if I were the mom, I would totally beat both of you up and kick you out of the house, conscious or not, period.

If you are still trying to hold on to your "argument" about "defending" your friend, after all the numerous replies here, telling that you are wrong, then so be it.

We can't forcely change what you think, but if you don't see the pattern of the replies here and why, then there isn't much that we can do, nor that you will be able to convince us that what you have done is right.

It is not.


Hey, Im almost sober right now. I understand everyones viewpoints and I would like to thank everyone for replying (sorry if I had a go at you).

I understand why she would be pissed off, trust me, I really do. The only reason I acted the way I did was because I needed to stick up for my friend. I will apologise tommorow of course, but the fact that everyone here would just abandon their friends and hang them out to dry kinda makes me worry about what kind of friends you guys really are. If your friend is in the wrong, you dont try and justify his actions, but you damn well better defend him when he cant defend himself. I expect the same in return from my friends in the same situation.

The fact that all of you would have let somone rip into one of your friends who couldnt defend himself and was at that point in tears is just wrong in my books. So hey, if you think im some asshole, I can deal with that. Im just standing up for what I believe in.
boe_N
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States57 Posts
July 11 2008 19:05 GMT
#39
defending your friend = good
yelling at mother / property owner = bad

so to speak, you're doing something good in principle, but due to bad execution things have gotten worse.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
July 11 2008 19:13 GMT
#40
It's not sticking up for friends when you're cussin at his mom... that's a worlds away from him getting into some shit at a bar and splitting the guys head open for fucking with your friend.

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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 11 2008 20:06 GMT
#41
so you think by yelling at his mom your helping your friend?
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 11 2008 20:12 GMT
#42
On July 12 2008 05:06 travis wrote:
so you think by yelling at his mom your helping your friend?


At the time it felt like the right thing to do.

Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 11 2008 20:55 GMT
#43
Yelling at someone who is puking is a shitty thing to do, but yelling at the home owner who is letting you drink at her house is also shitty. You were both in the wrong in my opinion. You should have let her know she was wrong in a more constructive way.
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
July 11 2008 20:58 GMT
#44
On July 12 2008 02:45 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 02:32 dinmsab wrote:
On July 12 2008 02:27 Fen wrote:
Ok, just to make sure, It wasnt the guy who was throwing up's mum. It was the guys whos place we were at's mum.

And fuck off about that anger management shit. I was with my friend who was in a bad way, he was feeling guilty and embrassed, and some bithc comes in and starts bitching about him yacking in her bathroom?????

Another person yacked in that bathroom tonight, and she didnt give a shit about her.

My friend was REALLY in a bad way, as In I was REALLY conteplating calling the ambulance. I was very thankful that I didnt need to. And all the time she was sitting there bitching. Sure you can be angry that a kid got drunk and yacked in your bathroom, but dont fucking rub it in. Hes feeling bad enough as it is. Absolultely no compassion whatso-fucking-ever


She fucking owns the property. If someone came to my place and started to make a mess in my toilet I would totally start yelling at people myself. Hell, you can shoot people if they trespass on your property, yelling at them is nothing.


Thats why I live in a civilised country,,,


You seem have strong opinions on what is considered overreacting when it comes to trespassing. Apply this principal to your situation and you'll realize that yelling back at the homeowner is considered overreacting. All you had to do in this situation was calm everyone down and not make such a big deal about it, but by yelling, you increased the tension of the situation instead.

I personally think you need to reevaluate your views on some other things, with the realization that life isn't just black or white. You seem to have knee-jerk reactions on things such as guns and what to do when you need to defend your friends. Remember that we have guns for a reason, and sometimes friends need to learn things for themselves.
johnmaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
125 Posts
July 11 2008 20:59 GMT
#45
you need to shut up when other people's mother is teaching their son. not everyone are denied motherly love like you. his mother scold him because she cares. she wants her son to be successful in life not drunk . go apologize to her and admit that you are a fucking loser for getting into other people's family matters. after that you can dig a hole and jump right in and bury yourself cause you're fucking useless and fucking irresponsible.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
July 11 2008 21:03 GMT
#46
On July 12 2008 02:02 Fen wrote:
Up your post count if you want.


ok thx

but yea sounds like you were in the wrong, when you're drunk you may think you're the one who is right but you might not be thinking rationally or something.
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
July 11 2008 21:20 GMT
#47
i agree that you should of stood up for your friend, but not exactly in that manner. i would of politely told her to stfu and my friend was in no condition to listen to her bitching.
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 11 2008 21:26 GMT
#48
Regardless of how you wrote this bias'd story, you are not a hero.

In fact, you remind me of a bitch. One of those obnoxious fat girls at parties that start drama and act tough and make things bigger than they should have been. Re-read what you wrote and see what a pathetic attempt this is at getting people to agree with you on an unimportant matter that is best left forgotten with dimwitted high school students.

Don't apologize until you know why you should apologize and can be genuine about it.

I'm sure the story coming from the mothers perspective would give people more sympathy for her.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
July 11 2008 21:52 GMT
#49
if you're still at this thread,

how am i the ultimate hyprocrite? there is an E on the word if you're going to call everyone one.

I said i threw up drinking and went to the cops because i couldnt take care of myself.
your friend deserved to be given to the cops.

Thats not hypocritical, thats responsible you fool.

This is completely aside from the point, being you have no place cursing at someone who's house you are trashing whilst puking in their bathroom.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 11 2008 22:03 GMT
#50
it depends what she said

I might or might not do the same thing
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8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
July 12 2008 00:51 GMT
#51
On July 12 2008 04:04 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 03:56 Fishball wrote:
The direction of debates are getting off.

All I'm going to say, Fen, is that if I were the mom, I would totally beat both of you up and kick you out of the house, conscious or not, period.

If you are still trying to hold on to your "argument" about "defending" your friend, after all the numerous replies here, telling that you are wrong, then so be it.

We can't forcely change what you think, but if you don't see the pattern of the replies here and why, then there isn't much that we can do, nor that you will be able to convince us that what you have done is right.

It is not.


Hey, Im almost sober right now. I understand everyones viewpoints and I would like to thank everyone for replying (sorry if I had a go at you).

I understand why she would be pissed off, trust me, I really do. The only reason I acted the way I did was because I needed to stick up for my friend. I will apologise tommorow of course, but the fact that everyone here would just abandon their friends and hang them out to dry kinda makes me worry about what kind of friends you guys really are. If your friend is in the wrong, you dont try and justify his actions, but you damn well better defend him when he cant defend himself. I expect the same in return from my friends in the same situation.

The fact that all of you would have let somone rip into one of your friends who couldnt defend himself and was at that point in tears is just wrong in my books. So hey, if you think im some asshole, I can deal with that. Im just standing up for what I believe in.


again again..its his fucking mom? lol hol-e-shit dude his parents can rip him a new asshole if hes in the wrong and being irresponsible and clearly.. he was. Yeah sure you were being a good friend and defending him, but it was the wrong time to do it. :/ Learn some respect you.

On July 12 2008 06:26 MYM.Testie wrote:
Regardless of how you wrote this bias'd story, you are not a hero.

In fact, you remind me of a bitch. One of those obnoxious fat girls at parties that start drama and act tough and make things bigger than they should have been. Re-read what you wrote and see what a pathetic attempt this is at getting people to agree with you on an unimportant matter that is best left forgotten with dimwitted high school students.

Don't apologize until you know why you should apologize and can be genuine about it.

I'm sure the story coming from the mothers perspective would give people more sympathy for her.


read this about..12 times then have someone read it to you

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I 3 pooled your mom with a napping drone, then scarabed her face. GG
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 12 2008 01:53 GMT
#52
"So, I just got home, its early in the morning or late at night, however you want to look at it. I think my friends mother is a fucking bitch and hope she dies in a hole. My friend is pissed off at me becuase he knows that he is going to take the heat of what I said to his mum tonight. And another of my friends is sitting there passed out snoring."

That was definitely not good on your part. Should've just pacify things.
But we all got carried away so its understandible, just be more chill nxt time.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
July 12 2008 03:31 GMT
#53
really dont understand how the OP trying to make the mother out to be the "bad guy" in this situation...
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 12 2008 03:41 GMT
#54
On July 12 2008 05:59 johnmaster wrote:
you need to shut up when other people's mother is teaching their son. not everyone are denied motherly love like you. his mother scold him because she cares. she wants her son to be successful in life not drunk . go apologize to her and admit that you are a fucking loser for getting into other people's family matters. after that you can dig a hole and jump right in and bury yourself cause you're fucking useless and fucking irresponsible.


Thanks for not reading. Youve made an incorrect assumption.

Testie Says
Regardless of how you wrote this bias'd story, you are not a hero.

In fact, you remind me of a bitch. One of those obnoxious fat girls at parties that start drama and act tough and make things bigger than they should have been. Re-read what you wrote and see what a pathetic attempt this is at getting people to agree with you on an unimportant matter that is best left forgotten with dimwitted high school students.

Don't apologize until you know why you should apologize and can be genuine about it.

I'm sure the story coming from the mothers perspective would give people more sympathy for her.


Your not a hero either for coming in thinking you should teach me a lesson. Im sure youve never got drunk in your life and done something a little rash either.

8pylon says
again again..its his fucking mom? lol hol-e-shit dude his parents can rip him a new asshole if hes in the wrong and being irresponsible and clearly.. he was. Yeah sure you were being a good friend and defending him, but it was the wrong time to do it. :/ Learn some respect you.


I cleared this matter up, Ive gone back over it now that im sober and its very clear. You didnt read.

Evanthebouncy says
That was definitely not good on your part. Should've just pacify things.
But we all got carried away so its understandible, just be more chill nxt time.


Thankyou for being the only person in this thread who realises that people do stupid things when drunk and its all part of being human. We learn from our mistakes.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 12 2008 03:56 GMT
#55
Ive just updated the OP
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
July 12 2008 04:45 GMT
#56
typical fucking aussie. sigh..
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 12 2008 05:11 GMT
#57
On July 12 2008 13:45 haduken wrote:
typical fucking aussie. sigh..


Im not sure if thats a joke or a sacastic comment or racism, but thanks for stopping by.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
July 12 2008 05:20 GMT
#58
The first story was way better then the second. You went from a complete jackass to a well, not a complete jackass.

Also if the mom wants to yell at somebody for throwing up in her house she has every right to.
I would go so far as to say she is obligated to yell else this might become the norm in her house. Yell at the first time and avoid the second time is far easier than not yelling and have it repeat several times, then when you do go yell you end up as the bitch because you let them do it before whats the big deal now?
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
July 12 2008 06:49 GMT
#59
ROFl the change is hilarious :D for some reason i read your post with an Australian accent narrating in the back of my head as if morgan freeman had chosen to switch to making that kinda accent >__<
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
July 12 2008 06:53 GMT
#60
lol @ the edit trying to save face
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 12 2008 07:49 GMT
#61
On July 12 2008 14:20 randombum wrote:
The first story was way better then the second. You went from a complete jackass to a well, not a complete jackass.


lol thats the miracle of alcohol
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 12 2008 10:01 GMT
#62
On July 12 2008 02:52 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 02:41 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Your friend's mom is right, your friend is a pathetic loser. I fucking hate people who drink so much they vomit. Know your damn limit for Christ sakes. Even drinking just a little under your limit is lame, because then you're lethargic, lazy, and just want to go to sleep, which means you're no fun to be around.


Have you ever vomited because of alcohol consumption?

If yes, then your a hypocrit.

If no, then you dont know what the fuck your talking about



:D

it sucks, but now i know
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 12 2008 13:04 GMT
#63
On July 12 2008 14:11 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 13:45 haduken wrote:
typical fucking aussie. sigh..


Im not sure if thats a joke or a sacastic comment or racism, but thanks for stopping by.

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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
July 12 2008 16:08 GMT
#64
On July 12 2008 03:44 Gene wrote:
he deserved it, he was an irresponsible prick making a mess out of her bathroom.

now she has to clean and disinfect her shit. your friend lost control of his stomach and responsibility. being yelled at was the least of his problems. if he's underage, he deserved to be taken to the cops.


LOL. We're talking about drinking here. Taking him to the cops? Are you serious?! And, wow, he puked in a toilet. Now it needs to be disinfected? You realize people piss and shit in the toilet right? And shit is pretty much as dirty as puke.


I never realized how many lame people are on TL. If you've never puked, you've never really drinking harddddd.
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8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
July 12 2008 16:14 GMT
#65
If you drink to the point to where you throw up then..grow up? kids do that kind of shit
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8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
July 12 2008 16:14 GMT
#66
Fen is still fighting his lost cause..
I 3 pooled your mom with a napping drone, then scarabed her face. GG
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 12 2008 16:38 GMT
#67
On July 13 2008 01:14 8Pylon wrote:
Fen is still fighting his lost cause..


Im still fighting a lost cause?

Either you need some lessons in english, or you need to read posts before posting yourself.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
July 12 2008 17:56 GMT
#68
On July 13 2008 01:08 Dknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 03:44 Gene wrote:
he deserved it, he was an irresponsible prick making a mess out of her bathroom.

now she has to clean and disinfect her shit. your friend lost control of his stomach and responsibility. being yelled at was the least of his problems. if he's underage, he deserved to be taken to the cops.


LOL. We're talking about drinking here. Taking him to the cops? Are you serious?! And, wow, he puked in a toilet. Now it needs to be disinfected? You realize people piss and shit in the toilet right? And shit is pretty much as dirty as puke.


I never realized how many lame people are on TL. If you've never puked, you've never really drinking harddddd.


With posts like these, I can occasionally look past the fact that you like DA SAWX
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