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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 04:30 GMT
#1
I hate it. I don't get it.
But I love it because I'm trying. I've followed the youtube tutorial.

ahaha share your experiences please

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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
June 29 2008 04:35 GMT
#2
nerd?
popnfreshspk
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States93 Posts
June 29 2008 04:35 GMT
#3
I used to try to solve it really really fast, but I failed. Never got under 30 seconds so I gave up, found a new hobby in drinking. :D

I know my friend on this site does it pretty damn fast, ask him for tips.

blagoonga123
hey you
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 04:42:05
June 29 2008 04:41 GMT
#4
On June 29 2008 13:35 Snet wrote:
nerd?


no?

I can't even fill one surface yet...wow

To the ones who finished it: did you guys see tutorials/guides online or figure it out yourself?
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
June 29 2008 04:41 GMT
#5
--- Nuked ---
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 29 2008 04:42 GMT
#6
owned.
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
June 29 2008 04:43 GMT
#7
I can solve the first two layers... but the last layer's algorithms are too complicated for me to memorize without much effort
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
Azael1111
Profile Joined May 2008
United States7 Posts
June 29 2008 04:43 GMT
#8
yes, i can do it in around 1 minute. I figured out the first 2 layers myself and a friend showed me how to finish.
I win.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 04:44 GMT
#9
yeah memorizing these algorithms or w/e is a bitch...
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 04:54:28
June 29 2008 04:50 GMT
#10
yayyyy rubik's cube
I can do it pretty fast with memorized algorithms but I don't teach them anymore. Last few people I taught all learned the intuitive approach. i find it more effective, since you basically just learn one 'concept' and apply it as you see fit to solve the cube however you like. Oh and it's more stimulating for the mind as well. Much more interesting than going "oh hey look, a line, I should do F (R U R' U') F' even though I don't know why!" Too bad there isn't any of those tutorials on youtube (afaik), so tough luck there.

you won't be as fast with intuitive method in sighted solving but ironically it happens to be one of the fastest methods for blindfold solving it. funny how that works
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
June 29 2008 05:12 GMT
#11
On June 29 2008 13:50 JeeJee wrote:
yayyyy rubik's cube
I can do it pretty fast with memorized algorithms but I don't teach them anymore. Last few people I taught all learned the intuitive approach. i find it more effective, since you basically just learn one 'concept' and apply it as you see fit to solve the cube however you like. Oh and it's more stimulating for the mind as well. Much more interesting than going "oh hey look, a line, I should do F (R U R' U') F' even though I don't know why!" Too bad there isn't any of those tutorials on youtube (afaik), so tough luck there.

you won't be as fast with intuitive method in sighted solving but ironically it happens to be one of the fastest methods for blindfold solving it. funny how that works
How do you solve a rubiks cube blindfolded?
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 29 2008 05:16 GMT
#12
memorization.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
June 29 2008 05:21 GMT
#13
On June 29 2008 13:41 dronebabo wrote:
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On June 29 2008 13:35 Snet wrote:
nerd?

irony?

cookies?
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Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
June 29 2008 05:41 GMT
#14
Here try this youtube video instead:

♞
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 05:49 GMT
#15
On June 29 2008 14:41 Chuiu wrote:
Here try this youtube video instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTBVORtCdI4


Thanks to this, I just finished the Rubik's cube.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 29 2008 05:50 GMT
#16
On June 29 2008 14:12 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 13:50 JeeJee wrote:
yayyyy rubik's cube
I can do it pretty fast with memorized algorithms but I don't teach them anymore. Last few people I taught all learned the intuitive approach. i find it more effective, since you basically just learn one 'concept' and apply it as you see fit to solve the cube however you like. Oh and it's more stimulating for the mind as well. Much more interesting than going "oh hey look, a line, I should do F (R U R' U') F' even though I don't know why!" Too bad there isn't any of those tutorials on youtube (afaik), so tough luck there.

you won't be as fast with intuitive method in sighted solving but ironically it happens to be one of the fastest methods for blindfold solving it. funny how that works
How do you solve a rubiks cube blindfolded?


yep just like raithed said, it's basically a 1-look solve. so you get to take 1 look at the cube to memorize its initial state (you're not allowed to make any moves while looking)
then close your eyes, do some moves, and when you open your eyes, the cube is solved. it's like magic!

and it's easier than it looks. In fact there's a person whose first rubik's cube solve was a blindfolded one
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 05:52 GMT
#17
On June 29 2008 14:50 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 14:12 DamageControL wrote:
On June 29 2008 13:50 JeeJee wrote:
yayyyy rubik's cube
I can do it pretty fast with memorized algorithms but I don't teach them anymore. Last few people I taught all learned the intuitive approach. i find it more effective, since you basically just learn one 'concept' and apply it as you see fit to solve the cube however you like. Oh and it's more stimulating for the mind as well. Much more interesting than going "oh hey look, a line, I should do F (R U R' U') F' even though I don't know why!" Too bad there isn't any of those tutorials on youtube (afaik), so tough luck there.

you won't be as fast with intuitive method in sighted solving but ironically it happens to be one of the fastest methods for blindfold solving it. funny how that works
How do you solve a rubiks cube blindfolded?


yep just like raithed said, it's basically a 1-look solve. so you get to take 1 look at the cube to memorize its initial state (you're not allowed to make any moves while looking)
then close your eyes, do some moves, and when you open your eyes, the cube is solved. it's like magic!

and it's easier than it looks. In fact there's a person whose first rubik's cube solve was a blindfolded one

You're crazy...damn haha
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 29 2008 05:56 GMT
#18
it's really not that hard tbh!

Clazz, if you just want to solve a rubik's cube though (as a one-time thing or whatever), i've heard good things about dan brown's youtube tutorial. If it's not the one you're already following, it'll be good.
here's the link to the first part

(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 06:03:04
June 29 2008 06:02 GMT
#19
Hey yeah, I'm following that JeeJee. But I got 8/9 of the 9 surfaces.

But I think I did it wrong because
where there's the green surface i try to fill, on the other sides, should have

[] [] []

and a [] under the middle box

[] = box
and these boxes have the same color.

So if I'm looking from the top where theres the green, the front, left, right, and back have these four []

i can't get it...godamn im so bad at this T_T
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 29 2008 06:10 GMT
#20
hmm
I'm not sure what you mean
which step are you on? looks like you're doing the 4 corners of the first layer?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 06:12 GMT
#21
i got all the corners except one

but i think i got the colors mixed up.
because at the end he says something like

not only have you finished the first surface, but you have also done something something with the colors

so like three rows are red
and the middle row, middle cube is also red.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 06:15:49
June 29 2008 06:13 GMT
#22
Ok, try this
take a look at the edge pieces of your green side. (so the pieces that only have 2 stickers in them. the ones you did in the first step)
do those 4 line up with the 4 boxes on the other sides

edit: basically do you have something like this:
http://web.mit.edu/eranki/www/tutorials/cube/images/top_cross.png
(with different colors but idea is the same. grey = don't care)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 06:16 GMT
#23
yeah something like that ;P
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 06:16 GMT
#24
I'm going to sleep, PM me your MSN or AIM or something.
I'm determined to beat this, no matter how bad I am at this >_<
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
June 29 2008 06:27 GMT
#25
even if th ecolors on the top are correct, make sure the corresponding sides also line up correctly
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
June 29 2008 06:52 GMT
#26
Are you currently on the step where he tells you to do "Ri Di R D" to get the corner in? Remember, even if you put a corner in such that the green face looks correct, it doesn't mean you put the right piece in.

The way you can check to see if the corner is in the correct place is by checking it with the colors of the edges next to it. If the corner does not match up with those colors properly, then that piece is in the wrong place. In order to take it out, just do Ri Di R D on that location, and the corner will go back to the bottom layer.

Wrong
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Right
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This is the step you're doing right?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 29 2008 07:38 GMT
#27
i roomed with the ex world-champion Toby Mao one summer. He and his brother taught Will Smith to do it for the film Pursuit of Happyness.

Learned from him, trained to 35-45 second times, then quit.
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Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
June 29 2008 08:12 GMT
#28
Also, Toby's brother Tyson is also a former world record holder, for the fastest blindfold solve back in the day.
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway868 Posts
June 29 2008 08:44 GMT
#29
I remember just doing what the cheating instructions for the cube told me to. And after looking at it a while, I figured that it would be easy to memorize, but understanding why the latter steps work would be hard/impossible.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 29 2008 09:45 GMT
#30
I usually just take the stickers off. Turns it into child's play.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 29 2008 12:24 GMT
#31
I pretty much figured out up to 2nd layer by myself, last layer i can't do that anymore.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 15:01:50
June 29 2008 14:57 GMT
#32
I kno theres basically two ways to solve it using algorithms, one of the ways is most used and it is what i learned which basically was solve on side and the stripe around the edge of that layer aswell. Then solve for the 2nd stripe, and then solve for the top face. But i know of another way, it used more complicated algorithms but its much faster because u solve the 1st and 2nd layer at the same time, which takes about 10 seconds or somthing.

Heres a little guide for u....

3x3 Algorithoms


FIRST SIDE (First Layer)

- Complete the cross

- Fill in corners to complete one side

Ri - Di - R - D



MIDDLE EDGE CUBES (2nd Layer)

Left Side = Ui - Li - U - L - U - F - Ui - Fi

Right Side = U - R - Ui - Ri - Ui - Fi - U - F



LAST SIDE (Top Side)

Dot, L Shape (Backwards L) , Line (Horozontal), Or Cross.

F - R - U - Ri - Ui - Fi


Cross Complete, working for all 4 lined up sides
(If 2 lined up sides are beside eachother, have 1 of them directly away from you, other in right hand)

R - U - Ri - U - R - U - U -RI

Centres and cross complete solve for final sides corners
(right side if ones in right place if not any side)

U - R - Ui - Li - U - Ri - Ui - L

Corners in right spot - flip them the right way
(Remember DONT TURN CUBE TURN THE TOP)

Ri - Di - R - D

This is just a summary of the algorithms and what situations to use them in, it would help if you watched a video or two on youtube before u read this.

JIJI
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada291 Posts
June 29 2008 16:00 GMT
#33
On June 29 2008 18:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I usually just take the stickers off. Turns it into child's play.

Sick dude. I cheated too. Never bothered with algorithms and all that jazz.
Believing forever in sAviOr. Jaedong complete domination. IefNaij scarab explosion. MUCH <3
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 29 2008 17:07 GMT
#34
a better way to cheat is to take out the pieces instead of ruining the stickers ;(

sigh. i'm gonna go make a detailed commutator tutorial. all this 'memorizing algorithm' talk is making me cringe if you know the basic concepts of commutators and setup moves you can create your own algorithms in a few seconds to solve the cube and it's more interesting too.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
June 29 2008 17:26 GMT
#35
The biggest mistake people make is completing a cube by finishing 1 side, then finishing the 2nd row, then completing the top. It's actually pretty slow. You need to use this method.

http://lar5.com/cube/

Its hard to learn at first, but once you get it down. You can solve the cube even faster than the regular method.
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Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
June 29 2008 18:00 GMT
#36
Regarding Krohm's link:
The Petrus method of solving is a great method, and is especially useful for solving the cube in a minimal amount of moves, but it is not quite the fastest method. The method that the fastest people use is still the Fridrich style (Cross, F2L, OLL, PLL).

The problem with the petrus method is that it takes too much thinking. So even though it's more efficient in terms of the number of moves, it's hard to think ahead enough when you're trying to do 13 second solves.

However, it is still a very fast method, and worthwhile to solve. Another very fast method that's pretty cool is something called the Roux method.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 18:08 GMT
#37
On June 29 2008 18:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I usually just take the stickers off. Turns it into child's play.


ROFL
I was thinking that too...but nah...
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 29 2008 19:22 GMT
#38
On June 30 2008 02:26 Krohm wrote:
The biggest mistake people make is completing a cube by finishing 1 side, then finishing the 2nd row, then completing the top. It's actually pretty slow. You need to use this method.

http://lar5.com/cube/

Its hard to learn at first, but once you get it down. You can solve the cube even faster than the regular method.


I thought Fridrich was still tops?
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
June 29 2008 19:36 GMT
#39
I learned to do the rubik's cube in 10th grade.

You'll soon learn that it's actually pretty lame. It's all about memorizing moves to make rather than "figuring it out" each time.

This of course is only cause people always look it up on the internet nowadays.

I spend 6 months wasting my time in classes trying to figure it out, and when I finally did, it was the most amazing thing EVER.

But when you just look up a tutorial on youtube/etc.... it's not like you're figuring it out, you're just having someone else tell you how to do it -_-
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[iD]faiyth
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada134 Posts
June 29 2008 19:40 GMT
#40
On June 29 2008 16:38 Last Romantic wrote:
i roomed with the ex world-champion Toby Mao one summer. He and his brother taught Will Smith to do it for the film Pursuit of Happyness.

Learned from him, trained to 35-45 second times, then quit.


=O

WOW that's AMAZING!!!!

i always wondered how will smith learned... lol.
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
June 29 2008 19:59 GMT
#41
On June 30 2008 04:22 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 02:26 Krohm wrote:
The biggest mistake people make is completing a cube by finishing 1 side, then finishing the 2nd row, then completing the top. It's actually pretty slow. You need to use this method.

http://lar5.com/cube/

Its hard to learn at first, but once you get it down. You can solve the cube even faster than the regular method.


I thought Fridrich was still tops?


It is. Petrus is second fastest, or maybe third fastest, depending on how fast the Roux method people are now.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
June 29 2008 21:41 GMT
#42
I used to play with the cube a lot, I can still finish it in less than a minute, the simple 7 formulas, I can still remember only 4 of them, but its enough to finish the cube in any situation in less than a minute :-)
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ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
June 30 2008 01:18 GMT
#43
i learned how to do one, they r ez.
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 30 2008 01:24 GMT
#44
at the ones who can do this ez

Lucky hehe

I did one surface w00t! And I actually did it right. It's sooooooo easy now.

Now to do the rest...hmm
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shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
June 30 2008 02:52 GMT
#45
haha..oh the rubik's cube. Yeah, basically (I know this will sound like complete BS) but I learned it from a previous world record holder. He was in 8th grade and was already taking AP math courses at high school. Anyways, basically he created a whole new rubik's cube fad at my school. His name was Shotaru Macky Makisumi..I havn't seen him in awhile, I think he goes to cal tech now though.

But yeah, we still have a bunch of cubers at my school even though I've stopped for several years now.
Here's a video of him

solving it in 12.11 seconds.
goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-30 04:18:47
June 30 2008 04:17 GMT
#46
1 minute and like, 10 seconds was my best.

haven't touched my rubik's cube for a while now. i think i still remember how to do it though.


i need to get it lubed though. ._.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
June 30 2008 15:27 GMT
#47
i'm too lazy to learn more complicated algorithms, mine works and is fast enough
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