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d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
June 22 2008 22:28 GMT
#1
I browse TL.net several times a day, but in the recent past, my interest in this site has decreased considerably. I mean come on, in the General Form, some probably paranoid conspiracists are debating about the legal foundation of taxes while others are "bashing" their own country. Then, we've got the Broodwar section, full with spoiler threads about the pro scene. When I look at the damn Strategy section, 4 out of 5 threads are about Protoss issues (lol, how can you actually lose with P?). And in the Blog section, people are sharing their daily eating habits (yes Subway is great..)..

Where are the quality threads/posts?

****
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 22 2008 22:29 GMT
#2
Hiding.

Seriously though, what's wrong with spoiler threads about the pro scene? Wasn't the Broodwar Forum created so that we can talk about Broodwar?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 22 2008 22:30 GMT
#3
So I was browsing through some old threads today when I saw a couple of topics that reminded me once again of what kind of a shithole general has become. Two years ago we used to have threads like these:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33486

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=24964

that generated decent discussion about interesting topics. Nowadays we have some kid named Nimsaya who makes threads with a single sensationalist youtube video or article and acts like they're some fucking amazing discoveries that the American people have to know about. I think it's safe to say that the newer generation of posters after 2005-2006ish have been garbage compared to the older. I can only think of a handful of relatively new posters who I enjoy reading and also post regularly. I mean, I realize that the past may seem better just because it's the past and we all have nostalgia. But aside from all the starcraft related improvements TL has undergone, as purely a forum I don't think TL is as enjoyable of a place to post on right now as say 2-3 years ago.

Also there's a strong posibility that I'm talking out of my ass but I don't think stimey/chibi should've been banned no matter how neurotic they were, they had been posting here forever and in the end, were a lot smarter than most people who've ever posted on TL.

The best time on TL for me in terms of pure forum posting enjoyment was a little bit after I started hanging here regularly, before hot_bid was a mod and was considered just another funny dude, before legionnaire quit progaming, before and during savior became a monster, etc. I was just another flaming asian kid who became fascinated with the magic of starcraft, oh how I miss those days.

I'm not saying general should be some sort of academia filled with high level intellectural discussion. Just that I wish we have more intelligent/funny posters and less idiots going on and on about everything from their personal life to starcraft to politics. Who's with me
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-22 22:35:07
June 22 2008 22:34 GMT
#4
On June 23 2008 07:29 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Hiding.

Seriously though, what's wrong with spoiler threads about the pro scene? Wasn't the Broodwar Forum created so that we can talk about Broodwar?


Hm, agreed there.

edit: Does it really bother people that much that a match's outcome has been spoiled to them? It's not like you're going to die if you know what happens in the end, I actually prefer people telling me what happened so I can stop worrying lol
^-^
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-22 22:38:30
June 22 2008 22:35 GMT
#5
i suggest you watch vods as promptly as possible. if the discussion has died by the time you get to them, then you either need to learn results via text rather than video or you need to regard tl.net as a read-only site.

live report threads, hype threads, FE's, PR, all the news posts, and some BW section threads all have good content.

edit: interview threads, every thread in featured, some blogs (have you read plexa's?) also have good content.

you might also need to learn to immediately identify bad content and then skip over it with strict discipline. many people read all the shitty content out of habit or boredom when they'd be happier simply shortening their time spent on tl.net
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-22 22:37:56
June 22 2008 22:36 GMT
#6
On June 23 2008 07:29 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Hiding.

Seriously though, what's wrong with spoiler threads about the pro scene? Wasn't the Broodwar Forum created so that we can talk about Broodwar?


Nothing really wrong with it, but I'd appreciate some input aside from the recent pro games. After all, I consider the Tourney section the place to talk about this..

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I don't want to rant about spoilers in general, as I don't watch so many VODs myself. It's just the quantity of threads describing those games.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-22 22:41:26
June 22 2008 22:37 GMT
#7
For god's sake, the threads in question 99% of the time have [spoiler] in the title, I don't see what's wrong with it.
(@ OP)

EDIT : Didn't see above post before posting this.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
June 22 2008 22:39 GMT
#8
On June 23 2008 07:36 d1v wrote:
It's just the quantity of threads describing those games.


well that's the main function of this site
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
June 22 2008 22:49 GMT
#9
You're not the only one who has noticed this. I remember someone else a few months ago also posting about the deterioration of the quality of the forums. I started lurking here about 9 months ago and even then, I thought the site was more entertaining than it is now.

The site still provides great coverage of the pro scene, which is what it's intended to do and some very good quality guides still pop up in the strategy section. But recently, there have only been a few threads that really made me think or laugh. I don't know, maybe it's because things become jaded after a while.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
June 22 2008 22:50 GMT
#10

you might also need to learn to immediately identify bad content and then skip over it with strict discipline. many people read all the shitty content out of habit or boredom when they'd be happier simply shortening their time spent on tl.net


Good idea, I really should skip the shitty stuff..

You know, it hasn't always been like this. Seems like this has come within the last month, shortly after the end of the TSL. Maybe a lot of quality posters are on holiday?
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27159 Posts
June 22 2008 22:51 GMT
#11
TL is what you make it. Sorry it does not cater to your individual preferences, and provide titillating entertainment 24 hours a day. Maybe if you chose to contribute rather than complain about it TL would be a better place.
ModeratorGodfather
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
June 22 2008 23:02 GMT
#12
On June 23 2008 07:51 Manifesto7 wrote:
TL is what you make it. Sorry it does not cater to your individual preferences, and provide titillating entertainment 24 hours a day. Maybe if you chose to contribute rather than complain about it TL would be a better place.


Listen, I really didn't mean to seriously nag or insult anybody. I really appreciate TL.net, it's the greatest SC site there is and most of the content is interesting. However, I noticed a decline in the quality of non-FE (and the such) posts. I just wanted to see, whether I was the only one noticing it. Really, no offense meant.
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badlands
Profile Joined June 2008
United States4 Posts
June 22 2008 23:29 GMT
#13
On June 23 2008 07:35 NonY[rC] wrote:
i suggest you watch vods as promptly as possible. if the discussion has died by the time you get to them, then you either need to learn results via text rather than video or you need to regard tl.net as a read-only site.

live report threads, hype threads, FE's, PR, all the news posts, and some BW section threads all have good content.

edit: interview threads, every thread in featured, some blogs (have you read plexa's?) also have good content.

you might also need to learn to immediately identify bad content and then skip over it with strict discipline. many people read all the shitty content out of habit or boredom when they'd be happier simply shortening their time spent on tl.net


Yea, I think this is exactly true. I think if you come to TL with some sort of timer in your head, instead of just reading through everything, it's a better experience. I think also, when you are new to the community, all the content seems more fresh and unique - it's only since we've been here so long that it all looks like crappy reruns.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
June 22 2008 23:32 GMT
#14
a lot of people jumped onto the SC2 bandwagon.

Like Manifesto said, it is what you make of it. Make the best of it and ignore all the trash.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 22 2008 23:35 GMT
#15
I try to make quality posts (at least for OPs) every time. Sure there's a lot of crap, and it's kind of painful to read, but TL is a community site. There's gonna be good, and there's gonna be bad, just make sure you're part of the good

If you have a complain with spam, talk to moderators, but if you're appealing to the community (or just bitching), then really the only solution is to start pulling your weight. Lead by example.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27159 Posts
June 22 2008 23:36 GMT
#16
I didnt take offense. Im just saying that the way this site became popular was through quality contributions. If someone thinks that the quality of threads is going down, then the way to fix it seems obvious to me.
ModeratorGodfather
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
June 22 2008 23:37 GMT
#17
I agree with Mani, we need more people to create logical/interesting threads [read, not conspiracy related] and we need more sane replies. That being said, it doesn't bother me since I don't come here to read general, I come to read and learn about sc.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
June 22 2008 23:46 GMT
#18
And whats with that dude who thinks it's alright to flood the blogs with mediocre google'd asian women?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 22 2008 23:49 GMT
#19
And whats with that dude who thinks it's alright to flood the blogs with mediocre google'd asian women?

The best part is that he's one of the most popular bloggers on TL XD I think I've just discovered the reason for all this: SC2 has revitalized TL with 14-15 year old boys!
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
HighTimes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan342 Posts
June 23 2008 00:09 GMT
#20
Naggers.... But yeah, i noticed it too. As i've been here since 2001, now there's too much content and it's all thin.
Hypes don't get anywhere, cuz we have several over a month, so some care about one, some about the other and some just don't.
Stupid/funny posts don't get anywhere (except to closed threads maybe) as everyone is afraid of TL.net becoming 4chan. (LP.net is more tolerant to this, so you can try reading their general)

Or maybe it just looks so after the storm that was TSL. C'mon, even tasteless faded away during this awesomeness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gvD9G5uDfo
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