On June 23 2008 08:36 Manifesto7 wrote:
I didnt take offense. Im just saying that the way this site became popular was through quality contributions. If someone thinks that the quality of threads is going down, then the way to fix it seems obvious to me.

Ditto!!

HamerD

United Kingdom1922 Posts

June 23 2008 01:33 GMT

#22

Looking back at threads before my time now, TL has never been a haven for high powered intellectual debate. There are lots of forums where you are bashed for anything less than a three-paragraph post, where MoltkeWarding would just be considered another average person, and where impeccable philosophical or scientific background is virtually ubiquitous.

The reason I even bothered to post here is because the people have a relatively better sense of humour than most forums, and at least you can know who ppl are unlike 4chan. Plus of course SC being the manliest game ever and there being loads of sc vids and stuff here is nice.

I think if you are lamenting about the intellectual level of TL members, just make some interesting post about identity, logic or consciousness; I'm fairly sure the clever ones come out of the woodwork whenever a discussion like that is about.

I think TL is a pwnage site with loads of productive and interesting members. It's pretty funny and definitely not dumbass. I don't think one should get too doom-and-gloom that it's less good, because it still owns.

micronesia

United States24773 Posts

June 23 2008 01:41 GMT

#23

Well here's a question. Back a few years ago when the quality was supposedly higher, what were the more intellectually inspired threads like? The moment you took a stance and tried to back it up, were you immediately attacked in a malicious manner by people with contrary viewpoints?

Highways

Australia6113 Posts

June 23 2008 03:34 GMT

#24

I've been visiting here since 2004, and its much better now.

- Pro scene coverege is so much better (back then most matches didnt have a live report thread)
- Brood war section pretty much the same (except less interviews now)
- General forum isnt as bad as most people complain it to be.

Goosey

United States695 Posts

June 23 2008 05:58 GMT

#25

On June 23 2008 07:35 NonY[rC] wrote:
.. yada yada ..

you might also need to learn to immediately identify bad content and then skip over it with strict discipline. many people read all the shitty content out of habit or boredom when they'd be happier simply shortening their time spent on tl.net

Golden advice. Also I kind of feel bad I replaced all the awesome content TL.net pumps out NonY mentions with 'yada yada'.

I guess I haven't been here long enough to know what people seem to always be nostalgic about, but I think TL.net is a damn fine site. Lots of quality editor content backed up by one of the best forum communities on the internet with the addition of kickass events like TSL and TL Attack.

I mean, what more do you want? Besides people to randomly make awesome threads in General, of course.

Krohm

Canada1857 Posts

June 23 2008 07:18 GMT

#26

I actually blame this on the flood of "4chan'ers". They bring nothing to the table and contribute complete garbage posts. I too have noticed the decrease in meaningful threads. I still come to this site all the time, but its just hard finding something interesting anymore.

Sadly, I'm not sure I have any interesting topics to bring up myself. Or else I would have started some by now.

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

June 23 2008 08:31 GMT

#27

I read/post in blogs mostly, they're good :p

yubee

United States3826 Posts

June 23 2008 08:57 GMT

#28

i like blogs more than general. i never look at general

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

June 23 2008 09:23 GMT

#29

ub comment my blog sometikmes? <3

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

June 23 2008 11:41 GMT

#30

yeah i tried to give general some "brain content"
so try it
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=73911

kAra

Germany1424 Posts

June 23 2008 12:02 GMT

#31

lets bump the old topics.

vGl-CoW

Belgium8305 Posts

June 23 2008 13:11 GMT

#32

i'm pretty sure the quality level in General has remained pretty constant since like '04 or '05 while everything else has gotten better

except for the SC2 forum which is terrible

MoltkeWarding

5195 Posts

June 23 2008 13:12 GMT

#33

The reason I and most people began to come here was because tl.net provided the best English coverage for the highest level of competitive Starcraft play. This remains so, regardless of the quality of the general forum. There remain a generation of stragglers who have outgrown Starcraft and remain here out of social acquaintance. These people are likely to have moved on with their lives and are preoccupied with work, studies or other hobbies, and who having outgrown that youthful exuberance of energy and emptiness of time which led them to Starcraft, have similarly toned down their participation on this forum.

But now you know something of my prejudices. When people laugh at my nostalgia for 1750, they must anticipate their turn in being called a cranky pessimist by the succeeding generation. There's nothing really strange about me, but I anticipated my old age before most people.

For people who feel dissatisfied at remaining, they ought to find alternative avenues of conversation. TL.net is only difficult to leave because people feel rooted here, but one can only stay in school for so long before the generations overtake you.

Elric

United Kingdom1327 Posts

June 23 2008 15:17 GMT

#34

On June 23 2008 17:31 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I read/post in blogs mostly, they're good :p

On June 23 2008 17:57 yubee wrote:
i like blogs more than general.

Me three. Except for those blogs made by that haija or whatever he's called.