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United States24666 Posts
I have recently conducted two experiments by using teamliquid. I'm somewhat intrigued by the results, so I'll share them.
Experiment 1: The No Soap Challenge
+ Show Spoiler +In my recent blog titled Challenge: No soap for one year I claimed that "I am going to go one year without using soap as a personal challenge." My purpose for this was twofold. First, it was a silly response to the numerous 'challenge' threads I've seen here and elsewhere recently. But more importantly, it was to gauge the readership's overall feelings towards current social standard on hygiene (which some other people actually brought up in their responses). Okay I'll just come out with it. I haven't used soap on my body (other than the exceptions stated in the blog) in 15 years. To all of you who said something like "If you do this you will of a major problem because x..." you were wrong :p . That's not to say that I could get away with it if I had a very close relationship (figuratively and literally) but for someone who leads a fairly clean daily lifestyle, it's quite unnecessary to lather up. Once again, I just wanted to see how many people were or were not privy to the fact that you actually can do reasonably well without soap/deodorant/etc. If you haven't already done so, I recommend going back and re-reading the replies from the perspective I was looking at it. It's rather amusing.
Experiment 2: Gas Prices From Hell
+ Show Spoiler +In my recent blog titled Gas Prices Expected to Soar I posted the url to a legit article about rising gas prices, pasted it into a spoiler, and then gave a one line comment. The goal was to see how many people fell into the following categories: 1) Read the article via the link, then responded. 2) Read the article in the spoiler, then responded. 3) Responded without reading the article. For the people that fell into category 2, they would either: a) Not notice anything wrong because they are dense and/or not knowledgeable at all on the situation. b) Discover that it is, to some extent, a complete farce. Nobody seems to have fallen into category 2b. I'm assuming they fell into category 3, with a few exceptions falling into category 1. It's difficult to quantitatively measure this data, but if you re-read through the replies, you will probably notice it. Basically, I just wanted to see if anyone would figure it out. If you didn't figure it out yet, re-read the article in the spoilers carefully (this is something I had been planning to do for a while (btw it might help to get WinMerge or something)).
If you are really confused then wait for a few replies as this might make more sense.
Anyway, just was having some fun.
Edit: I'm actually not smelly. It might just be that I'm that way naturally, so I can't promise this will work for other people.
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20 cents = 3 dollars
woah.
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i used to know a guy that didnt use soap. he would only rinse himself with water and he never used deodorant. he smelled like shit. please use soap micro...i like you and i want other people to like you.
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Korea (South)11576 Posts
i knew the news article was fake. But I didn't read who gave the one in the spoiler, and thot it was another person with another article designed to make the situation worse. Oh well...
That is a neat little trick you did though.
And yeah, I agree with statix, use some god damn deoderant and use some soap. It's gross and grimey if you dont.
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IS THIS ANOTHER TL EXPERIEMENT?
THIS BLOG HERE?
ive caught on to ur lies.
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i noticed that alot of asian people dont use deodorant and are okay
however, there are alot of people, especially fat people, who sweat alot and not using deodorant or soap is definitely not okay because their bodies emit a foul odor
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United States24666 Posts
On June 11 2008 07:45 CaucasianAsian wrote:
And yeah, I agree with statix, use some god damn deoderant and use some soap. It's gross and grimey if you dont.
If this were true my mother would have been screaming at me for the last 15 years. No it is not grimey for me. If it's gross that's only true for teleological reasons (i.e. false)
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On June 11 2008 08:08 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2008 07:45 CaucasianAsian wrote:
And yeah, I agree with statix, use some god damn deoderant and use some soap. It's gross and grimey if you dont. If this were true my mother would have been screaming at me for the last 15 years. No it is not grimey for me. If it's gross that's only true for teleological reasons (i.e. false)
I'm sure she's used to your odor by now, especially if you're not the only one in your family who doesn't use soap.
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United States24666 Posts
On June 11 2008 08:10 statix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2008 08:08 micronesia wrote:On June 11 2008 07:45 CaucasianAsian wrote:
And yeah, I agree with statix, use some god damn deoderant and use some soap. It's gross and grimey if you dont. If this were true my mother would have been screaming at me for the last 15 years. No it is not grimey for me. If it's gross that's only true for teleological reasons (i.e. false) I'm sure she's used to your odor by now, especially if you're not the only one in your family who doesn't use soap.
I'm the only one. Also, she didn't notice anything back when I was 8 (but she noticed the moment I hadn't showered at all ._. )
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So why don't you use soap? It seems to me like this would be the grandest of experiments you could carry out. Buy different scents, brands, moisturizers, etc.
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United States24666 Posts
On June 11 2008 08:20 fight_or_flight wrote:
So why don't you use soap? It seems to me like this would be the grandest of experiments you could carry out. Buy different scents, brands, moisturizers, etc.
I haven't needed it. Perhaps but I honestly don't care enough.
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You're a lamer. Don't use TL as your lab rats.
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On June 11 2008 07:53 SnowFantasy wrote:
IS THIS ANOTHER TL EXPERIEMENT?
THIS BLOG HERE?
ive caught on to ur lies.
haha i was thinking the same
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You said,
That's not to say that I could get away with it if I had a very close relationship (figuratively and literally) but for someone who leads a fairly clean daily lifestyle, it's quite unnecessary to lather up.
If there is a need at that point to lather up, you are more or less admitting that there is most likely a faint odor that someone intimate with you could sense. I would say that is good enough reason to shower immediately, for the chance that the faint odor is picked up by someone else, even if it's just in an enclosed space; such as an elevator.
If you aren't willing to accept the above logic, I still disagree with your opinion that you can do fine without soap/deodorant. My reasoning for this is that even if you do not have an unpleasant odor, the fact that some others will be mildly disgusted when they find out is reason enough to conform to washing regularly.
I liken this to when I tried to convince my family to stop giving me cards for special occasions, because I believed that it was unnecessary and I personally don't buy the, 'It shows that you care' excuse. What I found out however is that it means a lot to other people. People like to receive cards and would give me cards anyway to show that they cared. Therefore, I eventually conformed for family harmony.
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United States24666 Posts
On June 11 2008 10:24 Salvatore321 wrote:
You said,
That's not to say that I could get away with it if I had a very close relationship (figuratively and literally) but for someone who leads a fairly clean daily lifestyle, it's quite unnecessary to lather up.
If there is a need at that point to lather up, you are more or less admitting that there is most likely a faint odor that someone intimate with you could sense. I would say that is good enough reason to shower immediately, for the chance that the faint odor is picked up by someone else, even if it's just in an enclosed space; such as an elevator.
If you aren't willing to accept the above logic, I still disagree with your opinion that you can do fine without soap/deodorant. My reasoning for this is that even if you do not have an unpleasant odor, the fact that some others will be mildly disgusted when they find out is reason enough to conform to washing regularly.
I liken this to when I tried to convince my family to stop giving me cards for special occasions, because I believed that it was unnecessary and I personally don't buy the, 'It shows that you care' excuse. What I found out however is that it means a lot to other people. People like to receive cards and would give me cards anyway to show that they cared. Therefore, I eventually conformed for family harmony.
Okay so you have brought up two unrelated issues.
The first issue is that I'm admitting there is a benefit to using soap/deodorant. It's possible someone will dislike something about me therefore I must do something to prevent it? I think any odor I emit is more dependent on what I've done since I woke up this morning than whether or not I used soap last night.
You should do something because people want you to? Sometimes that is true. You shouldn't always do 100% what you want and not factor in what other people want. But you should also lead an independent lifestyle where you put your beliefs ahead of the illogical expectations of others. This is a balance so there is no right or wrong answer.
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Micro, you are one weird man...
but I still <3 you.
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My first point was merely stating that you do not deny you most likely have an odor. If you didn't think you did, why would you state that you would most likely clean yourself if you were intimate with someone. Since you were indirectly saying you do have an odor, I was saying there is a chance (imo, a good one) that people will notice. What I was getting at was that you said for your daily lifestyle, it's unnecessary to lather up. What I assumed was that you would care if you smelt. If you don't care if you smell, than I guess it doesn't really matter either way.
Also, I don't see what you getting at with your last sentence; It's entirely dependent. That's how filth is accumulated, you acquire it based on what you do. It isn't possible to stop yourself from becoming dirty, it's in the air. Your thinking would only make sense if by some way, you have stopped your body from becoming dirty, thus you don't need to shower anymore.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
i was going to read your blog, but you smell too much so i'm going to contribute to other quality blogs such as Crazie-penguin's pictures or Raithed's daily homework help blog.
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United States24666 Posts
Salvatore321 I think if you don't do anything hella dirty, your accumulated filth can be cleaned off simply by showering and using shampoo which runs down your body etc.
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You're just trying to justify two crappy blogs with an even crappier one. ADMIT IT, Damn you!!!
...I'm so onto you. *squinty eyes*
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United States24666 Posts
On June 11 2008 20:48 Energies wrote:
You're just trying to justify two crappy blogs with an even crappier one. ADMIT IT, Damn you!!!
...I'm so onto you. *squinty eyes*
Lol.
I'm surprised nobody caught the gas one, even though I wasn't surprised nobody realized I was joking about the 'no soap' challenge.
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United States22883 Posts
On June 11 2008 08:08 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2008 07:45 CaucasianAsian wrote:
And yeah, I agree with statix, use some god damn deoderant and use some soap. It's gross and grimey if you dont. If this were true my mother would have been screaming at me for the last 15 years. No it is not grimey for me. If it's gross that's only true for teleological reasons (i.e. false)
It kind of depends on the person. I assume you don't work out or anything.
I always think it's funny when people say "our bodies aren't meant to use soap!" Our bodies aren't meant to use keyboards or have anal sex either, but I don't see anyone complaining about that (except women.)
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United States22883 Posts
On June 11 2008 11:24 micronesia wrote:
You should do something because people want you to? Sometimes that is true. You shouldn't always do 100% what you want and not factor in what other people want. But you should also lead an independent lifestyle where you put your beliefs ahead of the illogical expectations of others. This is a balance so there is no right or wrong answer.
Fine, but going through the process of smelling nice/fresh is such a small sacrifice for having girls enjoy it.
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On June 11 2008 21:34 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2008 11:24 micronesia wrote:
You should do something because people want you to? Sometimes that is true. You shouldn't always do 100% what you want and not factor in what other people want. But you should also lead an independent lifestyle where you put your beliefs ahead of the illogical expectations of others. This is a balance so there is no right or wrong answer. Fine, but going through the process of smelling nice/fresh is such a small sacrifice for having girls enjoy it.
Or having people want to come within 10 feet of you.
I'm all about living an independent lifestyle, but there's certain thing you shouldn't do if you'd like to have company to talk to ever.
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United States24666 Posts
On June 11 2008 22:24 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2008 21:34 Jibba wrote:On June 11 2008 11:24 micronesia wrote:
You should do something because people want you to? Sometimes that is true. You shouldn't always do 100% what you want and not factor in what other people want. But you should also lead an independent lifestyle where you put your beliefs ahead of the illogical expectations of others. This is a balance so there is no right or wrong answer. Fine, but going through the process of smelling nice/fresh is such a small sacrifice for having girls enjoy it. Or having people want to come within 10 feet of you. I'm all about living an independent lifestyle, but there's certain thing you shouldn't do if you'd like to have company to talk to ever.
Yes. I just get annoyed that people equate using soap with people being willing to get within 10 feet of you. I assume you were talking about people who actually do smell etc, and yes I don't like them much.
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I was trriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicked!
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wow you're so superior to all those idiots who think soap matters
btw, if you don't use deodorant or soap and think you don't have any odor at all, you're either purposely ignoring your odor or you do nothing but sit around all the time. because there's zero way you'll make it through the day without beginning to smell if you move at all
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On June 11 2008 21:34 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2008 11:24 micronesia wrote:
You should do something because people want you to? Sometimes that is true. You shouldn't always do 100% what you want and not factor in what other people want. But you should also lead an independent lifestyle where you put your beliefs ahead of the illogical expectations of others. This is a balance so there is no right or wrong answer. Fine, but going through the process of smelling nice/fresh is such a small sacrifice for having girls enjoy it.
More girls for the rest of us.
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United States24666 Posts
On June 12 2008 02:39 EnergyTraction wrote:
btw, if you don't use deodorant or soap and think you don't have any odor at all, you're either purposely ignoring your odor or you do nothing but sit around all the time. because there's zero way you'll make it through the day without beginning to smell if you move at all
Soap is almost completely irrelevant to the stink you acquire when you move around during the day. As for deodorant, that's a different topic than soap which we can discuss at a later date.
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i thought soap was scented for that purpose
and doesnt soap help remove dirt and bacteria? the bacteria that cause the smell?
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United States22883 Posts
On June 12 2008 04:15 kpcrew(Gg) wrote:
i thought soap was scented for that purpose
and doesnt soap help remove dirt and bacteria? the bacteria that cause the smell?
Soap is an excellent cleanser because of its ability to act as an emulsifying agent. An emulsifier is capable of dispersing one liquid into another immiscible liquid. This means that while oil (which attracts dirt) doesn't naturally mix with water, soap can suspend oil/dirt in such a way that it can be removed.
The organic part of a natural soap is a negatively-charged, polar molecule. Its hydrophilic (water-loving) carboxylate group (-CO2) interacts with water molecules via ion-dipole interactions and hydrogen bonding. The hydrophobic (water-fearing) part of a soap molecule, its long, nonpolar hydrocarbon chain, does not interact with water molecules. The hydrocarbon chains are attracted to each other by dispersion forces and cluster together, forming structures called micelles. In these micelles, the carboxylate groups form a negatively-charged spherical surface, with the hydrocarbon chains inside the sphere. Because they are negatively charged, soap micelles repel each other and remain dispersed in water.
Then again, that was probably all scripted by the powerful soap lobby, who are always vying for world domination against the toothpaste moguls.
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United States24666 Posts
On June 12 2008 04:15 kpcrew(Gg) wrote:
i thought soap was scented for that purpose I'm talking about the cleansing effect of soap.
and doesnt soap help remove dirt and bacteria? the bacteria that cause the smell?
It helps remove dirt/oil (saponification IIRC). You have to be fairly dirty for this to be insufficient with water + shampoo.
Edit: lol @ 'powerful soap lobby'
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