One of my friends who happens to spent hours an dhours on the internet and is generally a smart person was cleaning out his grandmothers apartment where he currently lives and was going through her pills. His goal was to find osme pain killers to sell for some easy money, he found some vikatan and some other ones. Then he came across some pill called Oxy cotton, which not thinking it was anything important through around 200 oxy cotton pills away.
For those who may not know the value of these pills, they run for around 80$ a pill. 80x200 = 16,000 Give her take depending on what the value is, he found out several hours later what the pills were and checked the trash only to find out that it had been taken to the dump never to be seen again.
In result he lost around 10,000. And just to make him feel worse i have decided to create a poll to see how much of TL.Net would know that these pills are valuable and would of been able to properly capitalize on this situation.
Poll: Would you be 10,000 Richer? (Vote): I would be knee deep in hookers and pot. (yes) (Vote): FUCK. (no)
He's in college now, so a little extra money never hurts
Why do you insist on posting stories about the asshole antics of you and your friends? Why the fuck is he going through his grandma's medications to sell and throwing them away? What the fuck is this?
And even if you did keep them, who the fuck are you? A wholesale drug dealer? Who you gonna sell them to? Gonna go sling on the streets? Gonna find a dealer to sell to and recop the cash?
edit: But wait, I forgot the guy I'm talking to has the IQ to get into MIT, what was I thinking? Of course he can sell them. On second thought yea, I'd steal the industrial strength pain killers from my grandmother; she can suffer intense pain while I make a cool 10Gs, sweet.
On June 01 2008 15:46 EnergyTraction wrote: Why do you insist on posting stories about the asshole antics of you and your friends? Why the fuck is he going through his grandma's medications to sell and throwing them away? What the fuck is this?
And even if you did keep them, who the fuck are you? A wholesale drug dealer? Who you gonna sell them to? Gonna go sling on the streets? Gonna find a dealer to sell to and recop the cash?
On June 01 2008 15:46 EnergyTraction wrote: Why do you insist on posting stories about the asshole antics of you and your friends? Why the fuck is he going through his grandma's medications to sell and throwing them away? What the fuck is this?
And even if you did keep them, who the fuck are you? A wholesale drug dealer? Who you gonna sell them to? Gonna go sling on the streets? Gonna find a dealer to sell to and recop the cash?
edit: But wait, I forgot the guy I'm talking to has the IQ to get into MIT, what was I thinking? Of course he can sell them. On second thought yea, I'd steal the industrial strength pain killers from my grandmother; she can suffer intense pain while I make a cool 10Gs, sweet.
ROFL wow maybe i shiould of mentioned that his grandmother no longer needs them and shes an insane hypochondriac, she no longer lives with him and is NOT coming back, so he's cleaning out the apartment becuase the landlords are kicking him out.
On June 01 2008 15:46 EnergyTraction wrote: Why do you insist on posting stories about the asshole antics of you and your friends? Why the fuck is he going through his grandma's medications to sell and throwing them away? What the fuck is this?
And even if you did keep them, who the fuck are you? A wholesale drug dealer? Who you gonna sell them to? Gonna go sling on the streets? Gonna find a dealer to sell to and recop the cash?
edit: But wait, I forgot the guy I'm talking to has the IQ to get into MIT, what was I thinking? Of course he can sell them. On second thought yea, I'd steal the industrial strength pain killers from my grandmother; she can suffer intense pain while I make a cool 10Gs, sweet.
I assumed the grandmother died. I said yes, because I'm assuming you want to know if I know what they're worth, but I would never sell them. People get addicted to stuff like this, and it's scary. I don't want to be a part of anyone's self-destruction. Just keep them until one day you or a friend or a family member has surgery, that way you don't drain the health care system (or if you live in the US, you save money from your own pocket).
You've got to be an S-class piece of shit to give a drug abuser their fix. Don't do that to people.
and if he tried selling those for $80/pop he'd get his ass kicked
By who? The emo high school druggy girls he's selling them to? You act as if he's selling them in a dirty part of town where the only people who abuse drugs are guys with crow bars. He's probably just selling stuff on campus or to dumb high school girls.
generally when someone is trying to get rid of something quick, they'll get rid of it in bulk. especially if they "find it in their grandma's attic" and it's 100% profit there's really no reason to split it up.
anyways, if it were me and someone offered me 30 oxycotton for 2400 dollars (lol) i'd take that as him either thinking he can rip me off, or having no idea what he's doing and just get a couple friends to come take it from him. and as we now know, he had no idea what he was doing.
I said yes, because I'm assuming you want to know if I know what they're worth, but I would never sell them. People get addicted to stuff like this, and it's scary. I don't want to be a part of anyone's self-destruction. Just keep them until one day you or a friend or a family member has surgery, that way you don't drain the health care system (or if you live in the US, you save money from your own pocket).
people are going to do it whether or not you're the one to give it to them. if it's not you, it's just gonna be the next guy that gets their money. you've got your morales, and that's fine obviously but if 300 oxycotton suddenly fell into my lap i wouldn't hesitate to sell those asap. plus, like you said the majority of those would be going to kids in high school just looking for a way to get fucked up.
people are going to do it whether or not you're the one to give it to them. if it's not you, it's just gonna be the next guy that gets their money.
Just because a problem exists doesn't mean I have to be a part of it. No one else is going to be able to make money off of MY pills, so if I keep them, and dozens of other people who feel the same way as me keep them, the problem is smaller than it would have been otherwise. It doesn't disappear, sure, but at least I don't make it bigger. That kind of apathetic moral code where you don't give a shit because someone else would just do it in your place is childish and unrealistic. You're a piece of shit if you'd really do that, and no amount of pseudo logic is going to change that. You're an incredibly selfish human being.
You're probably thinking "that asshole should just get off his moral high horse and eat shit." To that I say that I have no morals, only desires, and more intelligent ways to achieve my desires than you
On June 02 2008 09:00 PsycHOTemplar wrote: You're probably thinking "that asshole should just get off his moral high horse and eat shit." To that I say that I have no morals, only desires, and more intelligent ways to achieve my desires than you
I don't see what the problem with selling the pills is.....as long as someone needs them for pain, I say screw the drug company. $80 for a pill is ridiculous.
people are going to do it whether or not you're the one to give it to them. if it's not you, it's just gonna be the next guy that gets their money.
Just because a problem exists doesn't mean I have to be a part of it. No one else is going to be able to make money off of MY pills, so if I keep them, and dozens of other people who feel the same way as me keep them, the problem is smaller than it would have been otherwise. It doesn't disappear, sure, but at least I don't make it bigger. That kind of apathetic moral code where you don't give a shit because someone else would just do it in your place is childish and unrealistic. You're a piece of shit if you'd really do that, and no amount of pseudo logic is going to change that. You're an incredibly selfish human being.
You're probably thinking "that asshole should just get off his moral high horse and eat shit." To that I say that I have no morals, only desires, and more intelligent ways to achieve my desires than you
hey asshole get off your moral high horse and eat shit
no but seriously, i am a big selfish dick so you're right on that. i think most people are though, whether or not they'll admit it.
I have to agree that the story doesn't make much sense. If you're going through looking for money in a drug cabinet, Oxycontin is the holy grail. There's absolutely no way you couldn't know what you had in 200 pills of Oxycontin. The other questionable part is the possession of such a sizable amount of Oxycontin. If the grandmother was on Oxycontin for chronic pain control, she would be refilling her prescription once a month. There is no way they would give her a 200 pill supply, which if it is the big ones like you claim, represents a half year supply of the drug.
Once again, i just repreated it as he told me, he claimed his grandmother is a hypochondriac, meaning she won't actually need or use the pills or something to that extent.
and to psychotemplar, you clearly have some level of morals if you want to lessen a drug problem that doens't necessarily effect you. I mean if it's an easy enough way to make money and it's not harming you or your family members to get rid of them, which in this case, it didn't. Then why not make a few bucks if your a struggling college stupid on your own? I'm not going for some sort of "Oh i'm a stripper just for college" crap, he lives on his own with his girlfriend and is a college student with a job, so when some easy money comes along why not take it?
Even if you dispute that just becuase they can get it from someone else if not you that it doens't justify, well i think it does. Why the fuck should i give up some money regardless of the legality of it if it comes along? Theres no reason not to, unless your own interpretation of what is right, and what is wrong tells you that you shouldn't. In which case you do have morals.
And my isn't a major drug dealer or into it, but theres normal drugs you hear about pretty easily, like vikatan, oxycontin is a little less known, but much more powerful.
For the record, i beleive my dad takes oxy becuase he has 1 leg, and i wouldn't still any of that and sell it to people beucase he needs it, however if there was extras somewhere that no one was going to use otherwise, why not?
I have morals to some extent, but it doens't cover not making some money off stupid fucks who want to use drugs, if your stupid enough to buy and use them, then someone has to be smart enough to sell them and take your money.
When there is a demand, someone will supply, and when you supply, you make money, basics of capitalism.
You realize if she is a LEGITIMATE hypochondriac then it's the doctor's fault, not hers, for giving her those pills? And if she is in any kind of pain, which you, not being remotely anywhere near a licensed physician, would not be able to tell, you're jacking her fucking medications.
OH SHES FAKIN IT, JACK DEMZ OXY COTTONZ YO
I have morals to some extent, but it doens't cover not making some money off stupid fucks who want to use drugs, if your stupid enough to buy and use them, then someone has to be smart enough to sell them and take your money.
lol ok mr big time capitalist, there's lots of sick fucks out there with poop fetishes, go take a crap in their mouths for a couple hundred
My point was money is money, however you get it. Would i become a big ass drug dealer? Fuck no, just if i saw some way to make some money pretty easily like this i would probably jump on it.
On June 02 2008 21:03 Jibba wrote: Yeah, and I think the point Energy and everyone else in this thread is making is that you and your friend are still very immature.
How the fuck does making some extra money make me fucking immature. Shove it. with your nonsensical bullshit.
On June 02 2008 21:03 Jibba wrote: Yeah, and I think the point Energy and everyone else in this thread is making is that you and your friend are still very immature.
How the fuck does making some extra money make me fucking immature. Shove it. with your nonsensical bullshit.
No one cares that your making some extra money, its the fact that your doing it in a sleezy, illeagal way and showing a "I dont fucking care about anyone but me" attitude does show that your just another ignorant idiot in the US. Your posted picture is just a perfect example.
On June 02 2008 21:03 Jibba wrote: Yeah, and I think the point Energy and everyone else in this thread is making is that you and your friend are still very immature.
How the fuck does making some extra money make me fucking immature. Shove it. with your nonsensical bullshit.
Because or your friend snagged an old lady's pills. Like holy shit, they just don't hand out those things like candy. To get oxy, you've got to have some fuckin intense pain. So now she doesn't have that. That's why people are calling you a faggot.
On June 02 2008 21:00 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote: My point was money is money, however you get it. Would i become a big ass drug dealer? Fuck no, just if i saw some way to make some money pretty easily like this i would probably jump on it.
Yea you would. If you would sell someone's grandma's pills for 10k, you sure as hell would sell drugs you got from some african farmers across the border for 100k.
On June 02 2008 21:03 Jibba wrote: Yeah, and I think the point Energy and everyone else in this thread is making is that you and your friend are still very immature.
How the fuck does making some extra money make me fucking immature. Shove it. with your nonsensical bullshit.
the way you make money is important..........if you just care about money and nothing else, there are plenty of easy ways to make it. People who sell slaves, for example, make tons of money.
In fact, pretty much 100% of whats wrong with society is people seeking profit without regard to others. Thats how you get the war in iraq for example.
So I wouldn't say you are immature, just immoral (or amoral).
woops i misread you. there's no such thing as a 750mg vicodin, you'd O.D. like 10 times over haha. they come in 5, 7.5, and 10mg. very cheap regardless.
I have a friend who abuses vicodin :X Why you gotta remind me? :@
Even if you dispute that just becuase they can get it from someone else if not you that it doens't justify, well i think it does. Why the fuck should i give up some money regardless of the legality of it if it comes along? Theres no reason not to, unless your own interpretation of what is right, and what is wrong tells you that you shouldn't. In which case you do have morals.
Maybe I do have morals, but not by the definition you're thinking. Morals have nothing to do with selflessness. Morals are things you learn from stories and experiences. Why don't you cry wolf? Because if you do you'll end up like the boy in the story and get mauled by wolves when you really do need help. That's a moral, and it's completely selfish desire.
The fact is, everyone is someone's sister, or brother, or friend. If there's a moral for this situation, it's do onto others as you would have done onto you. You wouldn't want your family and friends having drugs pushed on them, so don't do it to other people's friends and family.
But that wasn't why exact I wouldn't do it. The fact is that I really want to live in a world without drug addicts, and retards spaced out of their mind in public. If I have any desire for that, selling drugs like this directly goes against what I want. And for what? Some meaningless monetary gain? There's much more to life than money, and capitalism is an awful thing in a society with people who have no self restraint (ie: corporations that employ unethical labour). Capitalism can only work as a healthy system if the people within don't abuse it.
It's like abusing a StarCraft ladder. The only thing you're achieving is degrading the quality of the ladder. Abusing 'capitalism' only degrades the quality of our society.
It's everyones responsibility. You don't just litter because if you didn't litter, someone else would. You pick up the trash and hope the people who keep throwing it on the ground get a little taste of natural selection.
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I know I'm not changing your mind, but I just felt like going on a rant. The only thing that's going to change things for you is learning the hard way.
On June 02 2008 21:03 Jibba wrote: Yeah, and I think the point Energy and everyone else in this thread is making is that you and your friend are still very immature.
How the fuck does making some extra money make me fucking immature. Shove it. with your nonsensical bullshit.
the way you make money is important..........if you just care about money and nothing else, there are plenty of easy ways to make it. People who sell slaves, for example, make tons of money.
In fact, pretty much 100% of whats wrong with society is people seeking profit without regard to others. Thats how you get the war in iraq for example.
So I wouldn't say you are immature, just immoral (or amoral).
I would never deny being immoral, i am. I don't really care at the end of the road however i make money the important thing is we have money.
Capitalism brings out the greed and cruelty in humans, it's the nature of how it works the more greedy you are the more personal gain you get. being immoral gives you more of an edge in capitalism, i am not sayings its right or the best method, i'm just saying what i think it does. I could give some examples but its nothng you can't think of yourself.
you are an idiot because: you can't spell, you can't type, you think 1 pill is worth 80$, you believed your dumb ass friend, you believe this friend is smart.
On June 02 2008 21:03 Jibba wrote: Yeah, and I think the point Energy and everyone else in this thread is making is that you and your friend are still very immature.
How the fuck does making some extra money make me fucking immature. Shove it. with your nonsensical bullshit.
the way you make money is important..........if you just care about money and nothing else, there are plenty of easy ways to make it. People who sell slaves, for example, make tons of money.
In fact, pretty much 100% of whats wrong with society is people seeking profit without regard to others. Thats how you get the war in iraq for example.
So I wouldn't say you are immature, just immoral (or amoral).
I would never deny being immoral, i am. I don't really care at the end of the road however i make money the important thing is we have money.
Capitalism brings out the greed and cruelty in humans, it's the nature of how it works the more greedy you are the more personal gain you get. being immoral gives you more of an edge in capitalism, i am not sayings its right or the best method, i'm just saying what i think it does. I could give some examples but its nothng you can't think of yourself.
Free capitalism does not exist. Rules exist specifically to guard against people like your friend. How would this blog post go if your friend actually did make $10,000, then got caught and sent to prison for 3 years mandatory?
If you live an immoral life and aren't particularly deft, you are going to get caught.
On June 02 2008 21:03 Jibba wrote: Yeah, and I think the point Energy and everyone else in this thread is making is that you and your friend are still very immature.
How the fuck does making some extra money make me fucking immature. Shove it. with your nonsensical bullshit.
the way you make money is important..........if you just care about money and nothing else, there are plenty of easy ways to make it. People who sell slaves, for example, make tons of money.
In fact, pretty much 100% of whats wrong with society is people seeking profit without regard to others. Thats how you get the war in iraq for example.
So I wouldn't say you are immature, just immoral (or amoral).
I would never deny being immoral, i am. I don't really care at the end of the road however i make money the important thing is we have money.
Capitalism brings out the greed and cruelty in humans, it's the nature of how it works the more greedy you are the more personal gain you get. being immoral gives you more of an edge in capitalism, i am not sayings its right or the best method, i'm just saying what i think it does. I could give some examples but its nothng you can't think of yourself.
Free capitalism does not exist. Rules exist specifically to guard against people like your friend. How would this blog post go if your friend actually did make $10,000, then got caught and sent to prison for 3 years mandatory?
If you live an immoral life and aren't particularly deft, you are going to get caught.
If you're looking up what deft means, then it probably doesn't apply to you.
My main point wasn't that crime was good and a good part of capitalism and the rules of it. My point was people do what thye can to make money in a capitalist society, most people live life and do things the right way, but if some extra cash can be made that will help you out a bit, i don't see a problem with a small risk like that.
If your a struggling college student some easy money can be appealing. It's all situational though.
even if you don't know what deft means you can tell by its context, congrats you took a world from 5th grade vocab test and used it in everyday forum life in a cute attempt to condescend to me, adorable.
edit the op so people read that he wasn't stealing from his grandma, just throwing his shit out because half the responses are from people who haven't read the whole thread
On June 02 2008 21:03 Jibba wrote: Yeah, and I think the point Energy and everyone else in this thread is making is that you and your friend are still very immature.
How the fuck does making some extra money make me fucking immature. Shove it. with your nonsensical bullshit.
the way you make money is important..........if you just care about money and nothing else, there are plenty of easy ways to make it. People who sell slaves, for example, make tons of money.
In fact, pretty much 100% of whats wrong with society is people seeking profit without regard to others. Thats how you get the war in iraq for example.
So I wouldn't say you are immature, just immoral (or amoral).
I would never deny being immoral, i am. I don't really care at the end of the road however i make money the important thing is we have money.
Capitalism brings out the greed and cruelty in humans, it's the nature of how it works the more greedy you are the more personal gain you get. being immoral gives you more of an edge in capitalism, i am not sayings its right or the best method, i'm just saying what i think it does. I could give some examples but its nothng you can't think of yourself.
Free capitalism does not exist. Rules exist specifically to guard against people like your friend. How would this blog post go if your friend actually did make $10,000, then got caught and sent to prison for 3 years mandatory?
If you live an immoral life and aren't particularly deft, you are going to get caught.
If you're looking up what deft means, then it probably doesn't apply to you.
My main point wasn't that crime was good and a good part of capitalism and the rules of it. My point was people do what thye can to make money in a capitalist society, most people live life and do things the right way, but if some extra cash can be made that will help you out a bit, i don't see a problem with a small risk like that.
If your a struggling college student some easy money can be appealing. It's all situational though.
even if you don't know what deft means you can tell by its context, congrats you took a world from 5th grade vocab test and used it in everyday forum life in a cute attempt to condescend to me, adorable.
No, your point was that you won't let laws or ethics get in the way of you making money.
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