On August 24 2012 05:53 Arcanefrost wrote: These things you say can work, but just reread what you just wrote. This is another person we're talking about, she is someone's daughter or sister, respect her and leave her better than you found her. What you are describing is pure emotional abuse, how could you ever make someone you love cry/feel jealous/... or yell at her/make her feel horrible/... for no reason but to drag her further into your grip. It doesn't even matter whether it works, if you live like this you're a sad person. It's up to you, but I'd chose integrity any day.
Well its either that or she'll lose attraction for you and eventually cheat on you or make you a cuckold. Its sounds twisted, I know, but its the truth.
Also, for everybody thats saying that its being a liar or fake, you're not getting what I'm saying. You can be honest, genuine and all that other shit or you can lie, that doesn't matter. Its not about that, its about how you do it. Do it like a man. Something tastes like shit, say it "tastes like shit". Don't sugar coat it like some beta nerdy nice guy just to be agreeable. Be disagreeable. Women love that. She does something silly or even mildly offensive. Call her on it. Be a little brutal even foul mouthed but NOT bitter. Do it with a big shit eating grin or a maybe a slightly arrongant smirk or maybe even a straight face. You have to have a kind of disconnect with your environment, kinda like you own it. This attitude is very alluring.
All the so called "abusive" stuff I talked about is for relationships only. Don;t do that with someone you just met. That will turn her off(I'm not even too certain about that).
hint: all the abusive stuff you talked about will turn good women off in relationships too. if you actually think you can be an deceitful asshole to someone who's genuinely nice and caring, and have them stick around... you don't realize how the world works. the day that girl finds a nice man who is assertive and open WITHOUT being a giant asshole will be the day your world gets rocked.
On August 24 2012 05:53 Arcanefrost wrote: These things you say can work, but just reread what you just wrote. This is another person we're talking about, she is someone's daughter or sister, respect her and leave her better than you found her. What you are describing is pure emotional abuse, how could you ever make someone you love cry/feel jealous/... or yell at her/make her feel horrible/... for no reason but to drag her further into your grip. It doesn't even matter whether it works, if you live like this you're a sad person. It's up to you, but I'd chose integrity any day.
Well its either that or she'll lose attraction for you and eventually cheat on you or make you a cuckold. Its sounds twisted, I know, but its the truth.
Also, for everybody thats saying that its being a liar or fake, you're not getting what I'm saying. You can be honest, genuine and all that other shit or you can lie, that doesn't matter. Its not about that, its about how you do it. Do it like a man. Something tastes like shit, say it "tastes like shit". Don't sugar coat it like some beta nerdy nice guy just to be agreeable. Be disagreeable. Women love that. She does something silly or even mildly offensive. Call her on it. Be a little brutal even foul mouthed but NOT bitter. Do it with a big shit eating grin or a maybe a slightly arrongant smirk or maybe even a straight face. You have to have a kind of disconnect with your environment, kinda like you own it. This attitude is very alluring.
All the so called "abusive" stuff I talked about is for relationships only. Don;t do that with someone you just met. That will turn her off(I'm not even too certain about that).
What part of the phrase be yourself states that you shouldn't voice your opinions on things? I'll give you a hint , it doesn't it infact implies that you should made your opinions known where applicable. You on the other hand are advocating being disagreeable and being a dick on purpose.
It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
On August 24 2012 06:20 Elsid wrote: It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
It works. I couldn't care less weather anyone thinks I'm misogynistic. My attitude gets results, thats all I'm concerned about.
On August 24 2012 06:20 Elsid wrote: It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
It works. I couldn't care less weather anyone thinks I'm misogynistic. My attitude gets results, thats all I'm concerned about.
what you keep refusing to realize is that your definition of "results" is very different than most of ours. again, for the 3rd time, if all you wanna do is get your dick wet, then congrats, you're doing it... but don't act like this is the way all men should act, because your methods will not work if you want an open and healthy relationship with an amazing woman. pretty much everyone in this thread would agree with me on that (which is the reason that nobody is agreeing with you).
On August 24 2012 06:20 iamahydralisk wrote: hint: all the abusive stuff you talked about will turn good women off in relationships too...
You're dead wrong about that. It does the exact opposite. Women don't love for a lack of it, or in spite of it but because of it. Its how their attraction works. Weird ? Sure. Twisted ? Maybe....but ultimately true.
On August 24 2012 06:20 iamahydralisk wrote: hint: all the abusive stuff you talked about will turn good women off in relationships too...
You're dead wrong about that. It does the exact opposite. Women don't love for a lack of it, or in spite of it but because of it. Its how their attraction works. Weird ? Sure. Twisted ? Maybe....but ultimately true.
you're completely wrong and everyone here disagrees with you. you will never have a healthy and long-lasting relationship with a morally decent person. and you'll probably get your mind blown to fucking bits if you ever manage to get a relationship with a loyal, caring woman (you'll be the one falling for her and she'll shatter your world one day). and you'll remember this blog when it happens. glhf bro, and for your own sake, I sincerely hope you change your ways.
On August 24 2012 06:20 Elsid wrote: It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
It works. I couldn't care less weather anyone thinks I'm misogynistic. My attitude gets results, thats all I'm concerned about.
Getting a woman drunk to unconscious can get your dick wet too, doesn't make it any less abusive.
On August 24 2012 06:20 iamahydralisk wrote: hint: all the abusive stuff you talked about will turn good women off in relationships too...
You're dead wrong about that. It does the exact opposite. Women don't love for a lack of it, or in spite of it but because of it. Its how their attraction works. Weird ? Sure. Twisted ? Maybe....but ultimately true.
I think in the context of a long-term relationship or a spouse, treating women poorly will not work out well for you. But yes, even when you're married and living stably with a significant other, having some adventure and/or being confident and/or unafraid to voice your opinion bluntly can be a good thing of course.
On August 24 2012 06:20 iamahydralisk wrote: hint: all the abusive stuff you talked about will turn good women off in relationships too...
You're dead wrong about that. It does the exact opposite. Women don't love for a lack of it, or in spite of it but because of it. Its how their attraction works. Weird ? Sure. Twisted ? Maybe....but ultimately true.
I think in the context of a long-term relationship or a spouse, treating women poorly will not work out well for you. But yes, even when you're married and living stably with a significant other, having some adventure and/or being confident and/or unafraid to voice your opinion bluntly can be a good thing of course.
none of us are advocating being boring or unconfident haha. simply that one doesn't need to be a huge asshole to be adventurous or confident
On August 24 2012 06:20 Elsid wrote: It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
It works. I couldn't care less weather anyone thinks I'm misogynistic. My attitude gets results, thats all I'm concerned about.
what you keep refusing to realize is that your definition of "results" is very different than most of ours. again, for the 3rd time, if all you wanna do is get your dick wet, then congrats, you're doing it... but don't act like this is the way all men should act, because your methods will not work if you want an open and healthy relationship with an amazing woman. pretty much everyone in this thread would agree with me on that (which is the reason that nobody is agreeing with you).
Every time I come to the blog section here, there is always a blog about one of you failing spectacularly with women and what follows is usually advice that demonstrate a severe lack of understanding of women, basically advice that would guarantee more failure. The truth is, you guys suck with women. I'm not trying to be insulting or anything but thats the truth. Please understand that as twisted as my advice may sound, it is the truth. I can GUARANTEE that. I am trying to help by weighing in my experiences here.
Also, you're saying that its only if one wants "to get his dick wet". Its not actually. Most of you want fullfilling relationships with loving better halves. But I KNOW that you don't get that by being well....nice. You have to know how to play on a woman's emotions. Both good and bad but since I gather that most of you guys know how to do the good(gamers are usually very agreeable nice guys), I focused mainly on the bad(jealousy, silent treatment etc.) but don;t kid yourself, you need both.
I remember most of you when I was more active here and still playing BW, expressing such surprise that Idra got a hot girlfriend. It doesn't surprise me. He is one cocky trash talking asshole. Thats why he can score a babe like that.
On August 24 2012 06:20 Elsid wrote: It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
It works. I couldn't care less weather anyone thinks I'm misogynistic. My attitude gets results, thats all I'm concerned about.
Getting a woman drunk to unconscious can get your dick wet too, doesn't make it any less abusive.
The only point of advice that actually really made sense was the part about making a big goal and letting her know about it. Girls (and people in general) want to be a part of something larger than themselves. It's why people end up believing in God.
I'd take that a step further and actually even involve her in the helping out and setting up parts of it. Make her feel invested in you.
On August 24 2012 06:20 Elsid wrote: It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
It works. I couldn't care less weather anyone thinks I'm misogynistic. My attitude gets results, thats all I'm concerned about.
what you keep refusing to realize is that your definition of "results" is very different than most of ours. again, for the 3rd time, if all you wanna do is get your dick wet, then congrats, you're doing it... but don't act like this is the way all men should act, because your methods will not work if you want an open and healthy relationship with an amazing woman. pretty much everyone in this thread would agree with me on that (which is the reason that nobody is agreeing with you).
Every time I come to the blog section here, there is always a blog about one of you failing spectacularly with women and what follows is usually advice that demonstrate a severe lack of understanding of women, basically advice that would guarantee more failure. The truth is, you guys suck with women. I'm not trying to be insulting or anything but thats the truth. Please understand that as twisted as my advice may sound, it is the truth. I can GUARANTEE that. I am trying to help by weighing in my experiences here.
Also, you're saying that its only if one wants "to get his dick wet". Its not actually. Most of you want fullfilling relationships with loving better halves. But I KNOW that you don't get that by being well....nice. You have to know how to play on a woman's emotions. Both good and bad but since I gather that most of you guys know how to do the good(gamers are usually very agreeable nice guys), I focused mainly on the bad(jealousy, silent treatment etc.) but don;t kid yourself, you need both.
I remember most of you when I was more active here and still playing BW, expressing such surprise that Idra got a hot girlfriend. It doesn't surprise me. He is one cocky trash talking asshole. Thats why he can score a babe like that.
your entire post basically amounts to "i know better than all of you and you all suck with women." come on man.
Well I do know better than you guys, do I actually need to say that ?. I read the responses to girl blogs and cringe. Its just unbelievable. Its like reading an essay of a non english speaker who took a two week english class. I mean come on.
On August 24 2012 06:20 Elsid wrote: It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
It works. I couldn't care less weather anyone thinks I'm misogynistic. My attitude gets results, thats all I'm concerned about.
Getting a woman drunk to unconscious can get your dick wet too, doesn't make it any less abusive.
Classic strawman.
It wasn't so much a straw-man as establishing the principle that the end does not justify the means , this is in contention with your "my attitude gets results, that's all i'm concerned about". It's argument by analogy not straw-man.
Edit: Also I'm not sure where you saw me making a girl blog considering I've never made one and I don't recall posting in one much less posting in one where I gave bad advice.
On August 24 2012 06:56 SarR wrote: Well I do know better than you guys, do I actually need to say that ?. I read the responses to girl blogs and cringe. Its just unbelievable. Its like reading an essay of a non english speaker who took a two week english class. I mean come on.
lol. you're a sad, sad person, and I sincerely hope you're just trolling. right now, your behavior is a classic case of denial (of the fact that you may be wrong) and everyone else but you can see it. saying things like "I know better than you guys" makes you sound like a gigantic tool. you act as if nobody here has ever had a relationship except you, but let me tell you... many of us have, and most of them were built on much more honest foundations than anything you'll ever have with a woman as long as you have such mysoginistic views. you honestly sound like someone who's horribly depressed and you're trying to fill that by fucking as many girls as you can. I really think you should get some counseling, and I mean that in the best way possible.
Ok, you guys aren't getting what I'm saying. Perhaps my communication skills aren't what they should be and I've chosen the wrong words. I'm going to one of my favorite places on the net(YouTube ) to find illustrations of exactly what I'm talking about so that we understand each other better. I already have one in mind...just have to find it if anyone thought to put it on Youtube. I'll post them up as soon as I find them. Don't worry I won't bore you with anything long and overly technical. Brb
This shit only works in movies. In real life, its utterly pathetic. No woman worth her salt would ever find a man willing to chase down and jump on her ride begging like his life depended on it as anything attractive. Ok, maybe that scene is a little over the top but I couldn't find a more realistic portrayal of the exact behaviors I'm advising against. But it gets the point across. Treating her like she is some special perfect little snowflake is not going to earn you points as a potential lover. Not in the real world.
This is how a man handles a woman.
This 1 minute 13 second scene is the very essence of what I'm saying. Notice how brutally honest he is with her yet never gives in to her like some mopey second rate loser. For those of you who have never seen the movie let me tell you, he wants her but he knows that pleading and droning on about love and romance isn't going get a woman of her caliber and strength. He is not afraid to stand up to her and tell her like it is and if you're not blind, you'd see she is very attracted to him though she'd never give him the satisfaction of admitting it. That is the most realistice portrayal of male/female attraction dynamics I have ever seen. Now tell me, does he appear abusive to you ?
There is no need for me to say more on this topic since that scene said what I've been trying to say since I came into this thread.
On August 24 2012 06:20 Elsid wrote: It's clear from your first sentence that you're misogynistic and have issues with women. You should perhaps work on that before you go and try to give advice :l
It works. I couldn't care less weather anyone thinks I'm misogynistic. My attitude gets results, thats all I'm concerned about.
EPT
and I don't recall posting in one much less posting in one where I gave bad advice.
) to find illustrations of exactly what I'm talking about so that we understand each other better. I already have one in mind...just have to find it if anyone thought to put it on Youtube. I'll post them up as soon as I find them. Don't worry I won't bore you with anything long and overly technical. Brb
