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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
My shitty opel astra 92 burns 12l/100km. To and back to work are 25kms. 25x5=125kms per week just to go to work. 125x4 = 500kms per month. Add at least 200kms going somewhere else during the month. That makes it at least 700kms per month. 7x12 = 84 litres. 84 x 1.22EUR ~ 100 EUR just for petrol. The average salary in Bulgaria is 300 EUR (communism FTW). So one third of my money goes for petrol. Thats ridicilous.  | ||
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TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
HAHAHAH good joke. I'm also quite shocked by the huge wage disparity between France and Bulgaria. I hope that one day all the countries in the European Union will have the same average wage. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On May 16 2008 18:32 TheTyranid wrote: What does Communism have to do with the average salary? You must be confusing with Socialism. The current state of all easter european countries is due to the many years of communism regime. Thats what I meant. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On May 16 2008 18:32 TheTyranid wrote: What does Communism have to do with the average salary? You must be confusing with Socialism. lol i think that Communism and Post Communism transition somewhat ruined Eastern countries. edit: Mdb is faster ! | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
 I guess they don't give transportation reimbursements (and even if they did, it wouldn't cover all of it anyways) | ||
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8882
2718 Posts
On May 16 2008 18:35 Boblion wrote: The funny thing is that many economists and politicians claim that euro has lowered the oil price increase. HAHAHAH good joke. I'm also quite shocked by the huge wage disparity between France and Bulgaria. I hope that one day all the countries in the European Union will have the same average wage. With the current, retarded EU/European governments policies (increased VAT in such countries as Germany, forced biofuel production causing food prices to go up - because there is not enough land etc.) it will probably mean that people in France earning as much as people in Bulgaria, not the opposite.. Euro-zone is so weird, the taxes on everything are so incredibely high - fuel in USA is like half price as in the EU methinks (I always wonder how is EU still able to compete with USA). I always thought that taxes in Poland were high, but after joining to UE, nearly all excise taxes (fuel, alcohol, cigarettes) went up - by quite high ammounts. Ok, alcohol and cigarettes are not "first need" items and they would probably be manufactured in Poland - and sold to other countries, but currently, the accession actually harms people in Poland - because they will have to pay more. It basically has touched all fuels methinks (petrol, LPG, oil used to heat houses..). Food prices went up, due to the biofuel policies. They are talking about harmonizing VAT and CIT - which would probably mean going up, not down (VAT in Russia is 13% I think, while in the EU it has to be between 15-25% according to country - they will probably make it German 19% level (on the other hand its 22% in Poland, so it would be a decrease)). I believe that in many countries people are cheating on VAT, which is like the worst tax ever for small companies. I think in Italia and Poland there is a big grey sector caused by this tax. Basically VAT is a tax that just asks everyone to try to evade taxation.. btw. A Japanese car (toyota etc) in Poland costs like 40-50% more than in the USA.. WTF Speaking of euro itself - I have no idea for which country is it good. I mean Germany broke the deficit level I think and noone cared about it - in theory this caused a big problem for the euro and Germany should be fined by the EU - but it was not. Such policies are not provided to smaller coutries. So why would these countries care? I mean, how can one lead a monetary policy for like 15 countries in the euro-zone? They all have different econmies and different stages. I dont believe in monetary policy that much, but I dont understand how is euro good both for Germans and Greeks for example. These countries are totally different. I actually travel by public transport as I dont own a car - I actually like travelling by tram, because I can sleep there.. But you probably found the most suitable job for you and you have to travel there each day.. | ||
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
Better sell it. But you're probably too comfortable with your way of life to do that. You probably believe you need a car, even if you actually don't. Whatever, do what you want but do not cry when you have to pay the bill. | ||
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Track
United States217 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:27 ForAdun wrote: You get what you deserve. Mother nature is not stupid, she won't let you do whatever you want. Millions of cars sweep the earth, gazillions of cash you will have to pay. Be grateful that driving a car cost you your wallet and not your life - yet. Better sell it. But you're probably too comfortable with your way of life to do that. You probably believe you need a car, even if you actually don't. Whatever, do what you want but do not cry when you have to pay the bill. Yawn. Liberal fearmongerer. Why're you posting on the internet instead of saving trees somewhere? | ||
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
I have the right to blame car-drivers. What about you? | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:27 ForAdun wrote: You get what you deserve. Mother nature is not stupid, she won't let you do whatever you want. Millions of cars sweep the earth, gazillions of cash you will have to pay. Be grateful that driving a car cost you your wallet and not your life - yet. Better sell it. But you're probably too comfortable with your way of life to do that. You probably believe you need a car, even if you actually don't. Whatever, do what you want but do not cry when you have to pay the bill. Hahahahahahaha | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:27 ForAdun wrote: You get what you deserve. Mother nature is not stupid, she won't let you do whatever you want. Millions of cars sweep the earth, gazillions of cash you will have to pay. Be grateful that driving a car cost you your wallet and not your life - yet. Better sell it. But you're probably too comfortable with your way of life to do that. You probably believe you need a car, even if you actually don't. Whatever, do what you want but do not cry when you have to pay the bill. Sorry Jesus. | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
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Kennelie
United States2296 Posts
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:27 ForAdun wrote: You get what you deserve. Mother nature is not stupid, she won't let you do whatever you want. Millions of cars sweep the earth, gazillions of cash you will have to pay. Be grateful that driving a car cost you your wallet and not your life - yet. Better sell it. But you're probably too comfortable with your way of life to do that. You probably believe you need a car, even if you actually don't. Whatever, do what you want but do not cry when you have to pay the bill. Why haven't you sold your computer yet? Oh right, because you're a hypocrite. Bobilion, there will never be equal wages across Europe because the cost of living is different in every country. The average wage in Bulgaria is still much less, but it's not as bad when you factor in PPP. The euro is a silly thing. No offense to our eastern bloc friends, but it makes no sense that the EU accepted them and not Turkey, with a much stronger economy. | ||
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
On May 16 2008 23:50 Jibba wrote: Why haven't you sold your computer yet? Oh right, because you're a hypocrite. Yeah sure, just because I'm not living extreme I cannot blame people who drive cars. That makes sense, or wait, it actually makes it easier for you because you can now ignore my point. If I'm not perfect you don't have to change anything, don't even think about doing it. Way to go, keep up! | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 16 2008 23:55 ForAdun wrote: How was your computer delivered to you? How did you get clothes/food/shelter?Yeah sure, just because I'm not living extreme I cannot blame people who drive cars. That makes sense, or wait, it actually makes it easier for you because you can now ignore my point. If I'm not perfect you don't have to change anything, don't even think about doing it. Way to go, keep up! Why can't the OP drive a car, while you take advantage of automobile services in just about every aspect of your life? If you want to go back to the bare essentials and revert technology, why aren't you doing it? I mean, GOD FORBID we increase our quality of life. It's pretty easy to fucking say that when you live in an industrialized country. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32091 Posts
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Kaotu
United States986 Posts
I want to move to either an urbanized area or a suburb very close to a city where public transit is great and most of what you need it within walking/biking distance. Seattle, maybe? Boston? Don't know. But I am really sick of the drive-everywhere-you-go lifestyle. | ||
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