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MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 06:49:25
May 02 2008 06:44 GMT
#1
So i've skipped defragging my D: partition for about 3 years, with my 5.5 year old Maxtor hard drive, which for some reason hasnt died like every other maxtor in the world.

This is the same hard drive partition I download everything on, from tv series to porn (alot of porn at times) I got like 5 terrabyte of data going thru this 120gb partition just the last year, and thats JUST according to bittorrent/dc++ statistics.

Anyway.. My hard drive didn't like it, it started making crazy spinning noises and freezing (sorry to those people in the five 3:3 hunters games last night)

so I realised I better defrag, and I looked at the final result after about 8 hours or so and realised, damn, this is a pretty impressive defragmentation

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never seen a defrag like that before, so i thought it was absolute blog material, anyway the hard drive works now, sweet, starcraft baby oh yeah

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Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
May 02 2008 06:50 GMT
#2
Holy crap, that's like all red.
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 06:56:49
May 02 2008 06:53 GMT
#3
I try to defrag every once in a while, but I'm kinda a newb when it comes to that. For example, do I have to turn off ALL running programs? I'd prob defrag while sleeping but I use this alarm clock .exe to wake me up in the morning, would I have to not run that? +_+

Also, after or before defragging is there anything I should do? (Restart comp, run some other thing, etc.)

also i just ran an analysis and it says "You do not need to defragment this volume". But I'm pretty sure never in the history of my computer has it said I needed to when I did an analysis. I haven't defragged in maybe 3+ months now, should I just do it anyway?
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 07:00:15
May 02 2008 06:58 GMT
#4
ya i think you should restart after defragging, so you feel the improvements

sometimes its probably healthy to do more than one defrag, i'm doing my second one right now.

And i think you just shouldnt use any programs that are installed on that hard drive, if its the same as your os i think you shouldnt have anything going.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 02 2008 07:07 GMT
#5
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
May 02 2008 07:09 GMT
#6
ok cool thanks
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
May 02 2008 07:11 GMT
#7
On May 02 2008 16:07 Frits wrote:
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.


what is this black magic
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
May 02 2008 07:20 GMT
#8
On May 02 2008 16:07 Frits wrote:
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.

I have the same thing, but with my antivirus. Every once in a while I will notice an extra tab at the bottom and it is my antivirus working away doing a seemingly random scan. The weirdest part is that it was that 30 day subscription that comes with the computer, but it supposedly expired like a month or two ago. If it is still working, is there any reason to actually pay for it/download a free one?
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
May 02 2008 07:38 GMT
#9
Mine defrags automatically too, but I have stuff running in the background so it never works -_-. If I actually slept at night, or for long periods, I'd defrag then, but my sleep patterns are random so I can't plan ahead. My PC is way slower now, opening a folder takes trillion of hard drive "clicks."
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5509 Posts
May 02 2008 07:43 GMT
#10
On May 02 2008 16:20 Lemonwalrus wrote:
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On May 02 2008 16:07 Frits wrote:
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.

I have the same thing, but with my antivirus. Every once in a while I will notice an extra tab at the bottom and it is my antivirus working away doing a seemingly random scan. The weirdest part is that it was that 30 day subscription that comes with the computer, but it supposedly expired like a month or two ago. If it is still working, is there any reason to actually pay for it/download a free one?

The antivirus will keep working but it wont update. So if theres a new virus your screwed.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
May 02 2008 08:04 GMT
#11
I really really suggest you back up all ur worthwhile data.. defrag or not ur hardrive's life is about to expire ~
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
May 02 2008 08:12 GMT
#12
So how do you check if you need a defrag?
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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 02 2008 08:26 GMT
#13
you just do it regularly :3
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gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
May 02 2008 08:29 GMT
#14
On May 02 2008 17:04 Physician wrote:
I really really suggest you back up all ur worthwhile data.. defrag or not ur hardrive's life is about to expire ~

listen to the doctor. 5.5 years of hard use = ur drive can die anytime. back up now pls.
wesbrown
Profile Joined March 2008
United States31 Posts
May 02 2008 08:31 GMT
#15
Here's how to set up your (Windows XP or similar) box for weekly (or otherwise periodic) defragmentations:

1. Go to the Control Panel.

2. Go to Scheduled Tasks. (In XP, switch to classic view and it's one of the icons.)

3. Right-click in the window, select New, select Scheduled Task. Name it whatever you want (e.g., defrag).

4. Right-click on the new scheduled task and click on Properties.

5. A window will pop up, and the current tab will be Task. You need to add information to the Run and the Start in lines. In the Run line, you want the address of the program to run (e.g., defrag.exe) followed by any options to the command (e.g., the drive you want to defragment). My Run line looks like:

"C:\WINDOWS\system32\defrag.exe c:"

without quotes (this defragments the C: drive). The Start in line is the folder of defrag.exe. (Mine is "C:\WINDOWS\system32", no quotes.)

6. Select the tab labeled Schedule. This tab lets you set up a custom schedule for when defrag.exe (or whatever program you're running) will run. For example, I run it every Sunday at midnight.

7. Click OK.
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 09:05:27
May 02 2008 09:02 GMT
#16
On May 02 2008 17:04 Physician wrote:
I really really suggest you back up all ur worthwhile data.. defrag or not ur hardrive's life is about to expire ~



I know, i have suspected this and done it already.

this seems to have saved it for now at least...
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 02 2008 09:17 GMT
#17
looool shti
my hd is surprisingly undefragmented O_O only 15% (is 15% a lot or no?) after a long long time of not not defragging.

however i am so out of space right now 1% out of 60GB LOL cant defrag. gotta move a load of shit onto my external HD first -___-;;;
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
May 02 2008 11:01 GMT
#18
On May 02 2008 15:53 PanoRaMa wrote:
I'd prob defrag while sleeping but I use this alarm clock .exe to wake me up in the morning, would I have to not run that? +_+
I really don't recommend relying on a computer program to wake you up. I can't keep my computer stable enough to keep my darn mIRC open all the time because it's either rebooting with some update, or some other nonsense. Either way maybe you can do it on a weekend on an evening you make a point of going to bed early? Wouldn't work for me, but maybe for you...
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
May 02 2008 12:13 GMT
#19
A long time ago when I was still working with my win98, I didnt know what a defrag was yet lol

So when I finally did it, it took a whole 5 x 24 hours to complete defrag.

That being said, I think I'm gonna defrag now :|
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betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
May 02 2008 13:19 GMT
#20
you should perform a scan disk before you defrag. Also, at the end, defrag will tell you that there were some files it could not defrag: I think this means it couldn't find a space large enough for the whole file, so what I found helped was copying a big file and deleting the original. the copy will use the largest amount of space and then fragment into the other smaller spaces, but deleting the original will hopefully leave gaps behind so that a new defrag will be able to do a better job.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
May 02 2008 15:24 GMT
#21
Windows claims that you'll never need to defrag for vista, but that's bullshit. If I don't defrag every 2 months my computer will slow the fuck down whenever I try to open any folder or load a program up.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 02 2008 15:38 GMT
#22
On May 02 2008 16:11 MarklarMarklar wrote:
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On May 02 2008 16:07 Frits wrote:
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.


what is this black magic


Windows vista does this automatically.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
May 02 2008 16:44 GMT
#23
And vista no longer shows the pretty red graph
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dyodyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
May 02 2008 17:13 GMT
#24
On May 02 2008 16:11 MarklarMarklar wrote:
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On May 02 2008 16:07 Frits wrote:
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.


what is this black magic

Diskeeper. Install it then forget it. No need to worry about defragmentation.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 02 2008 19:59 GMT
#25
On May 02 2008 16:07 Frits wrote:
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.

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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 02 2008 20:27 GMT
#26
it's not the defrag that helped with the whirring, it is the fact that data was moved from some bad sectors, so the bad sectors are no longer accessed. back up your shit
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 23:58:10
May 02 2008 23:57 GMT
#27
On May 03 2008 00:38 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2008 16:11 MarklarMarklar wrote:
On May 02 2008 16:07 Frits wrote:
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.


what is this black magic


Windows vista does this automatically.
wtf seriously? Is there something I need to do to get it to start defragging automatically? Or has my computer been defragging itself this whole time without me knowing?

or is there something wrong with my copy? T.T (it's a legit copy, one of the few non-pirated things I have on here)
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 03 2008 00:19 GMT
#28
On May 03 2008 08:57 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2008 00:38 Frits wrote:
On May 02 2008 16:11 MarklarMarklar wrote:
On May 02 2008 16:07 Frits wrote:
My computer just defrags automatically every week without me knowing, it's kinda nice.


what is this black magic


Windows vista does this automatically.
wtf seriously? Is there something I need to do to get it to start defragging automatically? Or has my computer been defragging itself this whole time without me knowing?

or is there something wrong with my copy? T.T (it's a legit copy, one of the few non-pirated things I have on here)


Well I dont know what version you have but I suspect it's included in all versions it has most likely been defragging all along yes.

Im not on my vista comp right now but you can probably find it at my computer-> properties, or clicking properties on one of your harddisks, or just finding it through help I dont know.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
May 03 2008 00:41 GMT
#29
On May 03 2008 00:24 Falcynn wrote:
Windows claims that you'll never need to defrag for vista, but that's bullshit. If I don't defrag every 2 months my computer will slow the fuck down whenever I try to open any folder or load a program up.


I am on a Mac, and I don't need to do a Disk Defrag. Only thing I need to do once in a while is a Permissions check, and that does not take long (5mins max).
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-03 17:48:07
May 03 2008 17:47 GMT
#30
On May 03 2008 02:13 dyodyo wrote:
Diskeeper. Install it then forget it. No need to worry about defragmentation.

dang! tried diskeeper, it's awesome, thanks
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