I've been playing T for as long as I've been playing Z though my tvz is a lot worse than my zerg for whatever reasons. I think I just wasn't born to play terran. Can't multitask a lot of stuff, can't micro, etc. Once in awhile I steal a win by doing clever/lame rushes or timing builds but if the game lasts longer than 15 min I lose 100% unless the zerg is a lot worse than me. I used to go 2 fact, dropship after 1st vessel, come out with 6 tanks and drop at the same time. Though since everyone plays the 2ebay korean style now I've forced myself to switch awkwardly and just can't manage everything at once vs a good zerg. I'm thinking of switching back to 2 fact style to see what happens. Fuck I just lost again, I went from 170apm tvz to 220 since I've been in China yet I think I've improved nothing. Fuck

stanley_

United States816 Posts

April 15 2008 10:35 GMT

Try replanning your strats and counters. See what works and what doesn't.

Is the 2 fac build an alteration to the flash build? Or similar?

d1v

Sweden868 Posts

April 15 2008 10:41 GMT

Check your timing? I could imagine that you're a bit off, which can turn a game in TvZ.

gg_hertzz

2152 Posts

April 15 2008 10:47 GMT

you should post your tvz reps.

lately i've been practicing sk terran. it really improves your control and speed. even if u lose you're getting better.

d1v

Sweden868 Posts

April 15 2008 10:53 GMT

lately i've been practicing sk terran. it really improves your control and speed. even if u lose you're getting better.

How are you doing with it? I used to do it, but eventually stopped, because I wouldn't have the APM to pull it off well. Mind to send me some of your replays?

ggplay..

United States33 Posts

April 15 2008 13:59 GMT

start playing pvz

parkin

1090 Posts

April 15 2008 14:07 GMT

post some replays^^

Chill

Calgary26003 Posts

April 15 2008 14:38 GMT

You are bad.

yubee

United States3826 Posts

April 15 2008 17:12 GMT

pot kettle black chill

alffla

Hong Kong20321 Posts

April 15 2008 17:47 GMT

#10

On April 15 2008 19:35 stanley_ wrote:
Try replanning your strats and counters. See what works and what doesn't.

Is the 2 fac build an alteration to the flash build? Or similar?

lol wtf flash build what're u talking about this is tvz not tvp! 2 fac is when u get a shit load of tanks with 2 factories and not so many vessels cuz u dont have the gas to afford it ~_~

merz

Sweden2760 Posts

April 15 2008 20:26 GMT

#11

Welcome to the club, I feel your pain.

Caller

Poland8075 Posts

April 15 2008 21:46 GMT

#12

go 7 rax FBH style problem solved

besiger

Croatia2452 Posts

April 15 2008 22:28 GMT

#13

i like tvz far more then i like tvp and tvt, its a amazing matchup and i always fell like im running around doing stuff, the micro that can happen in a tvz is awesome, i just love it so much, even though im a B- B player in general i like to think my tvz is a little higher than that, if you want i might be able to help you some

d1v

Sweden868 Posts

April 15 2008 23:12 GMT

#14

go 7 rax FBH style problem solved

Jep, if you're FBH or any other random Korean 300 APM gosu, then you needn't worry at all..

quote]if you want i might be able to help you some[/quote]

Why don't you post some of your replays, I'd really appreciate it.

Ilikestarcraft

Korea (South)17743 Posts

April 16 2008 03:37 GMT

#15

Im the same as you. I used to go 2 fact tank and try to roll over the zerg before their defiler tech kicks in but all these zergs going fast hive that by the time i get to their nat they have defilers out t.t. And i tried to do it the kor way 2 ebay 1 fact 1 port and its so hard cause im a really slow player like 150-170 tvz and my money soars to like 2-4 k late game i feel like im lost.

and i never beated a zerg late game unless they fucked up.

I enjoy tvz alot im just bad at it haha

YoUr_KiLLeR

United States3420 Posts

April 16 2008 04:56 GMT

#16

you are just psychologically scarred from our games.

Ilikestarcraft

Korea (South)17743 Posts

April 16 2008 05:09 GMT

#17

im scarred from your bnet mutas

besiger

Croatia2452 Posts

April 16 2008 09:11 GMT

#18

i put up some of my tvz if anyone feels it might be able to help him, now take my replays with a grain of salt, i like to think im not a bad player but i still make shitloads of mistakes and screw up big time here and there especialy in the micro department, but i think im not that bad.

http://rapidshare.com/files/107904663/MyChoboTvz.rar.html

d1v

Sweden868 Posts

April 16 2008 18:10 GMT

#19

Cool, thx. I'll definitely have a look at it.

EDIT: Respect, your mechanics and game sense are quite sound, I must say.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

April 16 2008 18:41 GMT

#20

besiger.cry are you the person who had his entire base torn apart by loong)bao's muta in the svs vs bw- clan war?

red.venom

United States4651 Posts

April 17 2008 11:18 GMT

#21

You know I started with Terran, Bly.. and I can empathize with not feeling able to play Terran, especially vs Zerg. Just keep playing I guess. I truly believe certain races tend to click with certain players(Though there are of course dudes who can play all 3 somewhat competitively). : [