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Python reps when T wins

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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
April 14 2008 21:03 GMT
#1
So after get thoroughly trounced a good dozen times on Iccup I decided perhaps I was doing something wrong and I should go see how better players handle it. I heard good things about ygosu's rep library and I figured it would be a good place to start for current high quality TvP or TvZ reps on Python.

To my dismay, the first 6 or so reps I've watched in a row the T loses. I fully intend to keep looking but does anyone have any TvP/TvZ reps on Python where the T actually wins? If at all possible, I'd prefer games where the T plays fairly standard straight up stuff as I obviously tend to emulate their play. Doesn't really help my game if the T is pulling a Boxer and is doing some completely off the wall fake bbs into proxy facs type strat that I couldn't hope to make use of.

I believe my Iccup rec is 1-11 so far. Not discouraged though, still having fun.

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Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-14 21:41:03
April 14 2008 21:40 GMT
#2
I think at your level, it would be best to watch the fpvods on youtube. Viewing almost any replay or fpvod should really help you. If I lose consistently in a certain MU I'll watch a fpvod and try to emulate their play to the best of my ability. This will help give you a certain strategy and help develop your mechanics. Just my two cents. I hope it helps you.

PS: I know you asked for replays, but I think you should start with the fpvods. Try to understand every action the progamer makes. They're so fast that it'll be difficult, but once you understand your mechanics will greatly improve
allowicious
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States972 Posts
April 14 2008 21:48 GMT
#3
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays.php?&p1race=Terran&map=python

A pretty good list of TvX games on python. Check the spoiler in each game before you download it to make sure if T wins or not. Also, if you don't already, I would advise you to watch the replays with the opponents vision turned off so you only see what the T is doing and how he reacts to different situations.

have fun
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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
April 14 2008 22:07 GMT
#4
T cant win on this map, its impossible, i dont know why you are looking..
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
April 14 2008 22:25 GMT
#5
This map acutally favors terran at the progamer level. There should be plenty of good ones there.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
April 14 2008 23:42 GMT
#6
in fact i had the very same problem some times ago, so i made a rep pack of terrans on python winning, i just have to dig it up somewhere, will be sure to upload tomorrow.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
NatsuTerran
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States364 Posts
April 15 2008 00:54 GMT
#7
Try looking in ygosu's TvT section.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
April 15 2008 01:00 GMT
#8
On April 15 2008 07:07 CultureMisfits wrote:
T cant win on this map, its impossible, i dont know why you are looking..

I can't decide if he was at least mostly serious or not...
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
April 15 2008 16:07 GMT
#9
here i found this in my replays hope it helps, i dont know what exactly is going on inside but i assume most of those are t wins on python.

http://rapidshare.com/files/107723220/PYTHON_REP_PACK.rar.html
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-16 18:59:32
April 16 2008 18:57 GMT
#10
I was just reminded of this game i played where the T does a really cool stop gas + fast expo + stop scv and rush 7 min gg. I was totally unprepared for it. what is a toss to do?!
rep: http://loveskatepark.com/wp-content/misc/qqlqqlT-lutzkaP.rep
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-16 20:45:57
April 16 2008 20:45 GMT
#11
Thanks for the reps Besieger.cry.

On April 17 2008 03:57 gusbear wrote:
I was just reminded of this game i played where the T does a really cool stop gas + fast expo + stop scv and rush 7 min gg. I was totally unprepared for it. what is a toss to do?!
rep: http://loveskatepark.com/wp-content/misc/qqlqqlT-lutzkaP.rep

His tank was pretty late in that game since he had a supply drop at 25/26 and I think you could have done a good deal of damage if you had harassed a bit with your first 2-3 goons instead of chasing his SCV across the map. He didn't start his tank until 4:22 or so. I know against most P players I face, I'm panicking until I get that first tank out since often times they show up with a few goons and 4 or so marines sometimes doesn't cut it.

The whole time you kept your goons sitting by your base when you could have had them hanging around his nat instead. Always makes coming down that ramp more difficult for the T and will give you more time to react in my opinion.

I think there might also be some issues with your build order but I don't play P so I'm not that familiar with those.

Still, thanks for the rep.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
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