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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 02:36:18
January 29 2008 01:29 GMT
#1
So, I'm studying some math because my math sucks.

I'm going through this calculus textbook (Thomas' Calculus, Early Transcendentals), and I realize I need to study these stupid sin and cos functions, because this textbook assumes I know them by heart already.

So, I need to get me a book on trigonometry. I'm looking for stuff that deals with all those identities and relationships and their proofs (28 of them? something like that). Recommendations please!

Edit: I'm looking for stuff that deals with stuff like

cos(a+b) = cos(a)*cos(b) - sin(a)*sin(b)

sin(a+b) = sin(a)*cos(b) + cos(a)*sin(b)


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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
January 29 2008 01:40 GMT
#2
www.mathworld.com

Also, you can just google "Trigonometry identities" and you should at least get the formulas by themselves.
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
January 29 2008 01:43 GMT
#3
The reason I want a textbook is for the longer, drawn-out proofs, preceded by all of the theorems they use. And the exercises. And something I can take to the library and read off a desk.
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
January 29 2008 01:44 GMT
#4
I mean, this guy showed me this textbook in Korean that does exactly what I need, but my Korean sucks and I especially don't understand all of the Korean math jargon (new words for everything from angle and curve to plane and coordinate!).
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
January 29 2008 02:14 GMT
#5
SOH-sin over hypotenuse
CAH-cos adjacent hypotenuse
TOA-tan over adjacent

easy!

ummm library ftw



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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
January 29 2008 02:18 GMT
#6
On January 29 2008 11:14 Hypnosis wrote:
SOH-sin over hypotenuse
CAH-cos adjacent hypotenuse
TOA-tan over adjacent

easy!

ummm library ftw





i think he means shit like sin'(x) = cos(x), etc xDDDD
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 02:35:15
January 29 2008 02:32 GMT
#7
I'm actually thinking of stuff starting with

cos(a+b) = cos(a)*cos(b) - sin(a)*sin(b)

and

sin(a+b) = sin(a)*cos(b) + cos(a)*sin(b)

and

sin^2 + cos^2 = 1
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
January 29 2008 02:37 GMT
#8
from a higher math approach (with like mcclaurinseries or whatever the english name is) or the more standard approach?
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
January 29 2008 02:38 GMT
#9
My math sucks, so the idea is for me to get to understand these functions and their relationships. I'm not sure what a "higher math approach" would constitute, but it sounds scary.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
January 29 2008 02:53 GMT
#10
Proofs are not really necessary for something not of a higher math approach - you just take them for granted. But as far as I've seen, mathworld.com has some pretty lengthy and extensive proofs, maybe you should give it a try.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
January 29 2008 03:38 GMT
#11
They're all in my textbook, should be the same with yours.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
January 29 2008 04:05 GMT
#12
I have that text book, didn't use it though
http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp was the best though.
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 29 2008 04:15 GMT
#13
On January 29 2008 11:18 paper wrote:
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On January 29 2008 11:14 Hypnosis wrote:
SOH-sin over hypotenuse
CAH-cos adjacent hypotenuse
TOA-tan over adjacent

easy!

ummm library ftw





i think he means shit like sin'(x) = cos(x), etc xDDDD

that's calculus not trig...

don't get a trig textbook
they're worthless
and they're like 200 pages long, as opposed to 1000-page calculus textbooks

i'll just type out the identities/proofs... there aren't very many that you need to know that are hard to remember
and, that being said, you don't need to *remember* most of them anyways past pre-calculus
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11578 Posts
January 29 2008 04:18 GMT
#14
i just passed trig by 0.2% WEEEEEEEE!
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 04:31:05
January 29 2008 04:27 GMT
#15
okay for sin^2+cos^2=1
the proof is:
imagine a triangle on the circle defined by x^2+y^2=r^2 with base=x and height=y
if you divide out r^2 you get (x/r)^2+(y/r)^2=1
then, if you draw an angle theta, you see that sin(theta)=y/r and cos(theta)=x/r
so sin^2(theta)+cos^2(theta)=1

i don't see why you have to know the proof though
it' should be pretty obvious when you can use it
you use it a lot to simplify (especially in calculus), so it's really useful to know
like if you have sqrt(4sin^2(x)+4cos^2(x)) or something, the answer is just 2

edit: for the proofs of the identities 1+tan^2=sec^2 and 1+cot^2=csc^2, divide x^2+y^2=r^2 by x^2 or y^2
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 05:01:14
January 29 2008 04:44 GMT
#16
okay for sin(a+b) = sin(a)cos(b) + cos(a)sin(b) and cos(a+b) = cos(a)cos(b) - sin(a)sin(b)
i don't remember how to do the proof, but i remember it being seriously gay, and you honestly won't need to know how to do it, nor will it help your understanding of trig at all (i think)
i think you just have to memorize these

okay the tan(a+b) = (tan(a)+tan(b) / (1 - tan(a)tan(b)) isn't that bad to prove
just remember tan(a+b) = sin(a+b) / cos(a+b)
then use the previous identities and simplify by dividing out cos(a)cos(b) (i think...)

edit: for when you use them...
if you have something like sin(15)cos(30)+cos(15)sin(30), you can easily use the identity to get sin(15+30)=sqrt(2)/2 (yes it's degrees not radians)
or solve sin(x+30)=sqrt(3)/2 or something like that...
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 29 2008 04:50 GMT
#17
dont forget double angles and half angles
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 29 2008 05:07 GMT
#18
double angles:
sin(2a) = 2sin(a)cos(a)
cos(2a) = cos^2(a) - sin^(a) = 1 - 2sin^2(a) = 2cos^(a) - 1
tan(2a) = 2tan(a) / (1 - tan^2(a))

proofs for the double angle formulas: just set b = a
so, for example, instead of sin(a+b), you have sin(a+a) = sin(2a)
and plug it into the identity
sin(a+b) = sin(a)cos(a)+cos(a)sin(a) = 2sin(a)cos(a)
you should be able to prove the rest
you need to know double angles for calculus (integrating some trig functions)

subtraction "formulas" are basically the same... use -b instead of b
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
January 29 2008 05:10 GMT
#19
For the sin(a+b) and cos(a+b) you can prove using a well constructed triangle but it is a total bitch as our teacher showed us
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
January 29 2008 05:22 GMT
#20
A friend took the time to prove the first two to me (using rotation of a point around the origin), and told me that there are at least a dozen more useful ones.

I'm looking for something that not only lists these identities, but also proves them and provides exercises for me to do.

I'm thinking the Mathworld articles are pretty good, I'll definitely be looking at those a lot. Thanks to the people who pointed them out.
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 29 2008 05:33 GMT
#21
okay i guess that means i can stop...
honestly, trig is mostly memorization as opposed to comprehension (which calculus is 100x cooler)
in that class, just remember doing unit circle, identities, vectors, graphs, law of sines/cosines
you can honestly learn all the trig you'll need to know in less than a month
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
January 29 2008 08:38 GMT
#22
If your finding a book, then it depends on what level of math are you planning to learn. Trigonometry is a very large topic.. when you mentioned you didnt know the basics of it, then i would assume your learning it in school instead of university. Thomas' Calculus, Early Transcendentals is meant for university students who have basics in maths, if you find it too hard then i would recomend the school's textbooks.
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Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 12:52:14
January 29 2008 12:42 GMT
#23
If you want an excellent textbook with many difficult problems and proofs I would highly suggest "Trigonometry" by Gelfand and Saul. Gelfand is one of the 20th century's great mathematicians. It is a dover book, so very cheap. I found it user friendly and was able to read the whole thing without any teacher input. It does not assume that you already know any trigonometry or more advanced mathematics. After reading it once I found myself able to solve AIME and Olympiad trigonometry problems. This is one of my top three favorite math books in my collection of more 50.

I CANNOT RECOMMEND THIS BOOK ENOUGH AND IT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR!

http://www.amazon.com/Trigonometry-I-M-Gelfand/dp/0817639144/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201610925&sr=8-3
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Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
January 29 2008 13:04 GMT
#24
The book I mentioned above really changed my life...
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
January 29 2008 13:06 GMT
#25
After a recommendation like that (and lack of other recommendations), I think I'll go for it. Thanks a bunch.
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