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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2007 20:56 GMT
#1
TL should ban anyone that tries to start an atheist christian argument in any format from now. Shit is seriously getting annoying.

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vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
December 10 2007 21:01 GMT
#2
im atheist
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
nA.Inky
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States794 Posts
December 10 2007 21:01 GMT
#3
I completely disagree. I enjoy more intense conversation.

I find 95% of the threads on TL annoying. Solution? I do not read them. There is something for everyone here, but that also means a lot of stuff won't please you or I. But that doesn't mean we should start shutting people or threads down.

Variety makes the world, and this website, better.

Email (use instead of PM): InkMeister at aol dot com AIM: InkMeister
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
December 10 2007 21:04 GMT
#4
zulu is totally right
im christian tho...
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-10 21:08:04
December 10 2007 21:07 GMT
#5
On December 11 2007 06:01 nA.Inky wrote:
I completely disagree. I enjoy more intense conversation.

I find 95% of the threads on TL annoying. Solution? I do not read them. There is something for everyone here, but that also means a lot of stuff won't please you or I. But that doesn't mean we should start shutting people or threads down.

Variety makes the world, and this website, better.


This really isn't a place for spiritual trolling and arguments that digress into insults or the typical religion vs. atheism shit. It's been done hundreds of times and it seems to never have an end, despite many bans, closed threads, etc. If you find 95% if TL annoying, and enjoy religious "intense conversation," this isn't the place for you - go find some other serious forums. I think it's reasonable to moderate the quality/quantity of religious debates, including blogs.
Peace~
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
December 10 2007 21:07 GMT
#6
lets not make this a long drawn out argument as well, as the irony would make my head explode
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
December 10 2007 21:08 GMT
#7
Just ignore the religion vs science threads.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 10 2007 21:09 GMT
#8
On December 11 2007 06:07 Diggity wrote:
lets not make this a long drawn out argument as well, as the irony would make my head explode

This is worth arguing about in my opinion, because if a good argument is made against religious bullshit threads, then perhaps moderators would do something about them from now on, thus resolving many future inane arguments.
Peace~
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2007 21:09 GMT
#9
intense conversation lol, LOL is all i have to say
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
December 10 2007 21:10 GMT
#10
On December 11 2007 06:07 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2007 06:01 nA.Inky wrote:
I completely disagree. I enjoy more intense conversation.

I find 95% of the threads on TL annoying. Solution? I do not read them. There is something for everyone here, but that also means a lot of stuff won't please you or I. But that doesn't mean we should start shutting people or threads down.

Variety makes the world, and this website, better.


This really isn't a place for spiritual trolling and arguments that digress into insults or the typical religion vs. atheism shit. It's been done hundreds of times and it seems to never have an end, despite many bans, closed threads, etc. If you find 95% if TL annoying, and enjoy religious "intense conversation," this isn't the place for you - go find some other serious forums. I think it's reasonable to moderate the quality/quantity of religious debates, including blogs.


Same suggestion: ignore thread. You can't discount religion as something that belongs to these forums as much as, for example, a tech thread can.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-10 21:22:40
December 10 2007 21:22 GMT
#11
I'm not cool enough to just ignore them I think those threads are annoying and need to stop all of you guys who get caught up in them suck
Payt
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada582 Posts
December 10 2007 21:23 GMT
#12
On December 11 2007 06:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I'm not cool enough to just ignore them I think those threads are annoying and need to stop all of you guys who get caught up in them suck
Yeah, but if they're kept to a blog, I don't think it's really fair to tell people what they can/can't post, as long as it's not gruesomely innapropriate
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2007 21:26 GMT
#13
i'm not really directing this at the blog next to mine, mostly just towards these kinds of debates in general going back to a long time ago, and obv i'm not commanding you guys on what to do, the gyst of the post is that I find these kinds of arguments annoying but I cleverly disguised that message in a sarcastic command aimed to achieve humor in those who agree with me.
lugggy
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
450 Posts
December 10 2007 21:30 GMT
#14
i would rather see nonserious boring spam threads halted, but if not that, i would rather everyone able to freely have the kind of conversations they want, as much as possible, as long as it isn't harming anyone. why do religious conversations annoy you?
A little effort please, this isnt a forum for just posting every link on the internet.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2007 21:36 GMT
#15
because you guys make the same points over and over again and call it "intense conversation"
lugggy
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
450 Posts
December 10 2007 21:38 GMT
#16
I am seeking out honest discussion between people who may have different viewpoints. What is the alternative you suggest for serious topics? Utter silence? You want people to be banned for daring to open communication lines between Christians and atheists? Should we segregate society too?
A little effort please, this isnt a forum for just posting every link on the internet.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
December 10 2007 21:41 GMT
#17
I don't understand why you can't keep it to one thread / blog, like the MBS thread in the SC2 forum. Why is there a blog "I'm an antheist" when he could have made that point in any of the 90000 other religious blogs? It spams the blog sections, and essentially burries the non-philosphical-debate blogs.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2007 21:44 GMT
#18
I don't actually want you guys banned I made a sarcastic statement for fuck's sake, can you tell? and why are you acting like i'm trying to shut down some great intellectual communication you're making? You guys argue about literally the exact same shit every thread and think you're actually saying something. You're not opening communication between Christians and atheists sir, you're a normal person who's interested in religion talking about god with other 13 year old korean kids who go to church every sunday and believing in god, I don't think that's on par with the kind of intense conversation you think you're actually having. And segragate society WHERE THE FUCK DOES THAT COME FROM? ARE YOU ACCUSING ME OF BEING A RACIST?
lugggy
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
450 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-10 21:48:26
December 10 2007 21:46 GMT
#19
On December 11 2007 06:41 Chill wrote:
I don't understand why you can't keep it to one thread / blog, like the MBS thread in the SC2 forum. Why is there a blog "I'm an antheist" when he could have made that point in any of the 90000 other religious blogs? It spams the blog sections, and essentially burries the non-philosphical-debate blogs.


Because those blogs are old, filled with other stuff, framed differently, and most of the points in them are made by people who are no longer active. It's like saying, why write your own book, when you can just pencil it into the margins of a Harry Potter book.

New conversations are an important option for a forum, and the previous ones are hardly definitive. If you require us to make a comprehensive study of every thread and blog made on the topic and sum it up and respond to each one before we can strike up an internet conversation of our own, you would utterly kill the site, because none of us has time to write our own Summa Theologica for each topic we want to chat about.

At least let us have conversations in the blogs. My new blog didn't bury any active blogs related to my content. And if there were two religious blogs going on at the same time, that would be a good thing, because we would have deeper conversations running parallel to one another (as these two topics have done). You should see that what happened between these two topics would not be possible were they both forced to go on within the same thread. Take that point, and expand it, and you can see how having multiple threads is a good thing for all those involved.

And as for the MBS threads, for instance, you can see the harm they have done. When you force all MBS discussion into the same thread, you make the thread unreadable, meaning all participation will either require an insurmountable amount of work, or ignore most of what it is "responding to." It is better to allow multiple discussions on the same topic. Otherwise we do not have the option of re-framing a topic, or dissecting it into smaller and smaller questions to discuss.
A little effort please, this isnt a forum for just posting every link on the internet.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-10 21:54:18
December 10 2007 21:50 GMT
#20
I mean that sounds great in theory, but in practice I haven't ever seen that happen. You just get multiple threads about the same thing. I don't really care because I just ignore them, but I think the current system isn't ideal.

Edit: I actually think the MBS thread model is ideal. It starts with a group of people talking about a subject. Slowly, people lose interest as the thread grows, and now there is a core group talking amongst themselves. The barrier to enter that thread gets higher, so someone wanting to bring up a new topic can either a) not post it, or b) glance over the background in the thread and then post. The current system allows option c) ignore all previous content and post your thread. I suppose that's fine, but I do think there are consequences of operating like that. Do the positives outweight the negatives? I don't know. As I said before, I simply ignore all these philosophical debate threads.
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