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Thegreatbeyond
United States287 Posts
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man
United States272 Posts
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
On November 29 2007 14:03 man wrote: ROFL what a retard is she cute? | ||
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
Moral of the story? Don't argue with idiots or they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Or something like that. | ||
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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
she means that among the people that go to church, there are people who call themselves Christian, and then there are the "real" Christians that really believe the Christian doctrine and really act like Christians (they try to live by what the Bible says). The people that call themselves "christian".. well... they see church as more of a social thing and not really believe in anything they hear at church. Most likely they're just there to chill/hang with people. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
Wiki's opening line sums it up: "A church is an association of people who share a particular belief system." Which would technically make you wrong. ^_^ Anyways, if you're in highschool or whatever, just know that all of you are idiots with zero life experience, and that in a couple years, none of what you're doing now will matter.  | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On November 29 2007 14:16 EvilTeletubby wrote: Anyways, if you're in highschool or whatever, just know that all of you are idiots with zero life experience, and that in a couple years, none of what you're doing now will matter. Words of wisdom right here. | ||
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Thegreatbeyond
United States287 Posts
On November 29 2007 14:16 EvilTeletubby wrote: Technically the word "church" doesn't apply JUST to christianity (look it up, dictionary.com, wikipedia.com), although traditionally that's the context people use it in. Wiki's opening line sums it up: "A church is an association of people who share a particular belief system." Which would technically make you wrong. ^_^ Anyways, if you're in highschool or whatever, just know that all of you are idiots with zero life experience, and that in a couple years, none of what you're doing now will matter. I know alot more about the world works, and the state of the country and its intricate machine more then anyone in my school. I'm one of the few that knows what really geos on in these world, and I'm also smart to realize that getting good grades deos not make you smart, and that its not gained through an innate talent. I'm not stupid, and I know a lot of things, and that included a lifetime of experience only few people in this world has really gone through. And btw, she deos a lot of stuff through her church, like work, and she seems dedicated to it.... | ||
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Thegreatbeyond
United States287 Posts
She is sort of an emo, whom is obsessed with making herself look unique, and being tolerant and a girl hippy. Don't even start dude........ | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
It's really more like a social experience where people meet every week with other "Christians", most of the time it's a friendly environment where you feel safe to meet new people. I've met only a few people who I would say are truly Christians, the rest are the phony people you see in front screaming "Praise Jesus!" flapping their arms around like a goose. You're probably talking to a girl who read some book like The Da Vinci Code and thinks she is some wizz at religions. | ||
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CFDragon
United States304 Posts
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Thegreatbeyond
United States287 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36388 Posts
On November 29 2007 13:51 Thegreatbeyond wrote: So I was talking to this girl in a class today, and she had a shirt describing the satanic symbol which is actaully a pagan symbol but was smeared by the church. So she claims she is a pagan of a sort, I asked her if she had sacraficed any animals, she was offended, and told me that the focus of paganism is balance and peace, and pagans cannot kill animals, it geos againts everything etc . Then she says she geos to a church, and I'm like "what?" I ask her if she is protestant or catholic, then she says not everyone who geos to a church are not christian. I'm like WTF? I tell her that if she geos to a church, she must be a christian. Based on the fact that a church is a place of worship for christians. Then she makes a comparison, saying that using my assumption, she would be a car if she went inside a garage. Since that is not true, a person can go to a church and not be christian. I'm still like WTF? I decide to stop arguing with her, because there was no point. Then I see all these people looking at me, the idiot people (and there are quite a significant amount in my class) then some stupid girl actaully agreed and somehow saw sense, so she started being a bitch to me and saying how I was wrong to make the assumption that a christian would go to a church. I didn't want any hassle so I dropped the conversation. So is it just me or is there something wrong, and stupid in that comparision between a person being a car going inside a garage with that of a christian person going to a church? A church is just a group of people who believe the same thing. The "main purpose" of the word is to mean exactly what it means, not mean something you think it means. Most christians use the phrase "church of jesus christ" a lot and recognize that the word isn't exclusive to christians or catholics. She can call her religion a church if she wants, there's nothing wrong about that. It's not like christians own the word "church" and other people can't use it. Frankly, your story just makes you sound close-minded and intolerant, you harassed this girl for no reason other than that she believed something different than you and used a word you assumed meant only one thing. That makes YOU the idiot. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On November 29 2007 14:45 Thegreatbeyond wrote: I know alot more about the world works, and the state of the country and its intricate machine more then anyone in my school. I'm one of the few that knows what really geos on in these world, and I'm also smart to realize that getting good grades deos not make you smart, and that its not gained through an innate talent. I'm not stupid, and I know a lot of things, and that included a lifetime of experience only few people in this world has really gone through. And btw, she deos a lot of stuff through her church, like work, and she seems dedicated to it.... Question, not meant to offend or anything. Any particular reason why you always type eo instead of oe (like in "does" or "goes") Also, knowing what "goes on in the world" could be many different things. You could be well informed about current events and know nothing of what college/living is like, maybe vice versa. :3 EDIT: Oh, and this part is meant to kind of offend: "A wise man knows he knows nothing" :3 | ||
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HonkHonkBeep
China353 Posts
And if you were as smart as you say you are you'd realize that while good grades may not reflect genuine intelligence you should "get smart" and just make the grades if you want to go anywhere in life. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On November 29 2007 14:45 Thegreatbeyond wrote: I know alot more about the world works, and the state of the country and its intricate machine more then anyone in my school. I'm one of the few that knows what really geos on in these world, and I'm also smart to realize that getting good grades deos not make you smart, and that its not gained through an innate talent. I'm not stupid, and I know a lot of things, and that included a lifetime of experience only few people in this world has really gone through. And btw, she deos a lot of stuff through her church, like work, and she seems dedicated to it.... While the first post made me wonder, this one cleared all of the doubts - you're an arrogant dickhead who insults little hippy girls and then goes to TL.net do discuss it. Lifetime of experience? Only a few people in the world? Who the fuck do you think you are? | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
do you ask every asian you meet what belt they have in karate? her analogy makes perfect sense, btw. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On November 29 2007 14:45 Thegreatbeyond wrote: I know alot more about the world works, and the state of the country and its intricate machine more then anyone in my school. I'm one of the few that knows what really geos on in these world, and I'm also smart to realize that getting good grades deos not make you smart, and that its not gained through an innate talent. I'm not stupid, and I know a lot of things, and that included a lifetime of experience only few people in this world has really gone through. Here is something that might shock you... EVERYONE THOUGHT THAT IN HIGH SCHOOL. I guaran-fucking-tee I could come back to you in 5 years and you'd be like "dude, I didn't know SHIT back then!". I'm not trying to be mean, just honest. I thought the exact same way, then Real Life® hit me like a ton of bricks and I realized how little I knew. I can promise just about everyone here in their 20's and up will agree with me on that. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
You will agree with me at some point... just not now. ^_^ | ||
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byChris
United States99 Posts
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Payt
Canada582 Posts
edit: a man only needs one ass | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
I'm not stupid, and I know a lot of things, and that included a lifetime of experience only few people in this world has really gone through. ... is so laughably arrogant, you have no idea. Get over yourself. The sooner, the better (again, trust me from personal experience). | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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Polis
Poland1292 Posts
On November 29 2007 13:51 Thegreatbeyond wrote: Then she says she geos to a church, and I'm like "what?" I ask her if she is protestant or catholic, then she says not everyone who geos to a church are not christian. I'm like WTF? I was wrong to make the assumption that a christian would go to a church. Those statements don't exclude themselves, you fail at basic logic. It seems to me that you are not willing to accept that you can be wrong in anything, that is very unhealthy, and definitely not smart, through it can be sub effect of being smart, and ego that is created as result of it. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 29 2007 16:45 HonkHonkBeep wrote: Well, in the "traditional sense" a pagan is a person who holds polytheistic beliefs, but the Church (THE Church You're the one who's stupid and apparently misinformed. Firstly, pagan is anything non-Christian in a traditional sense, as that's the origin of the word. Secondly, as stated many times, a church is not limited to Christians. Thirdly, sacrificing animals is not something that all "pagans" do. And if you were as smart as you say you are you'd realize that while good grades may not reflect genuine intelligence you should "get smart" and just make the grades if you want to go anywhere in life.  ) kind of expanded it to any worship of false gods and thus heretics, but I don't think Muslims or Jews were ever considered pagans by anyone.But yeah, agree with the rest. Highschool grades reflect performance through effort, not intelligence, kind of like KeSPA :x and you'll soon find that just being "intelligent" is not enough to make you successful, but working hard can. Combining the two is obviously the best choice. | ||
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GeneralCash
Croatia346 Posts
On November 29 2007 17:04 EvilTeletubby wrote: Here is something that might shock you... EVERYONE THOUGHT THAT IN HIGH SCHOOL. I guaran-fucking-tee I could come back to you in 5 years and you'd be like "dude, I didn't know SHIT back then!". I'm not trying to be mean, just honest. I thought the exact same way, then Real Life® hit me like a ton of bricks and I realized how little I knew. I can promise just about everyone here in their 20's and up will agree with me on that. !agree | ||
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nA.Inky
United States794 Posts
It is important to practice humility and compassion in your life. Even if the girl is misusing the word "church" (and it sounds like she is not), it does not make her an idiot. That is a semantics issue, not truly an issue of intelligence. Your comment about sacrificing animals comes off, to me at least, as very rude and judgmental, although maybe you were attempting to be humorous (very risky in this particular case). The fact is, many Wiccans and other pagans practice an extremely peaceful and compassionate way of life, full of respect for other people and other life (if you know so much, why don't you know about her religion already, hmm?) Please, stop being so harsh and judgmental (maybe this is part of the sadness you experience...) and practice compassion and humility - for one thing, when you live this way, other people are much more sympathetic and eager to help when you complain about how horrible life is and that you don't know how to relate to other humans and so on, which I recall you doing just last week. Your arrogance in this blog is very off-putting, and Teletubby is right, when you are in highschool, good grades or not, high IQ or not, you just don't know as much as you think you do. Nick | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
and if you didnt get the garage analogy you're also an idiot. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32098 Posts
On November 29 2007 17:04 EvilTeletubby wrote: Here is something that might shock you... EVERYONE THOUGHT THAT IN HIGH SCHOOL. I guaran-fucking-tee I could come back to you in 5 years and you'd be like "dude, I didn't know SHIT back then!". I'm not trying to be mean, just honest. I thought the exact same way, then Real Life® hit me like a ton of bricks and I realized how little I knew. I can promise just about everyone here in their 20's and up will agree with me on that. Agreed 214%. Life's gonna dropkick you in the balls one day and you'll realize you don't know shit. Then you can make a blog thanking eveyrone here for telling you what an arrogant dick you were being. You never stop learning in life. | ||
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spetial
United States688 Posts
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omgbnetsux
United States3749 Posts
On November 29 2007 17:31 EvilTeletubby wrote: And again not to keep piling it on, but.. ... is so laughably arrogant, you have no idea. Get over yourself. The sooner, the better (again, trust me from personal experience). QFT. I'm 24 and I still don't think I know shit. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
that's almost as ridiculous as worshipping a god, in my opinion. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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Thegreatbeyond
United States287 Posts
My logic deos not fail , I don't know everything about the church subject/topic nor was I aware there were churches created to harbor non-christians or people of diffrent faiths, therefore my assumption was perfectly logical. I wasn't born in the United States but in Great Britian. I was too young too remember any experiences I had because after my little life there, I subsequently moved to Bangladesh where I lived for a lot of my life. I then moved to China, where I lived for 5 years. I moved to the U.S recently and its the first time living here for me even though I have visited here before. In conclusion, in regards to religious practices in the U.S, I do not know these basic facts that should be known, and thank you to those for having the maturity to kindly inform me. Also, I'm not a keen fan of religious practices/beliefs, so I do not deviate to learn about these things from my normal time. Second, the fact that some of you put effort just to humilate and insult me on my burst of arrogance, for your satisfiction, proves that you guys are just as childish and stupid as me when I wrote that post. Which leads to that you haven't A) learned anything from Highschool/matured from highschool B) Didn't learn too many small patient related helpful things because it was not relative to your personality or you deemed those things/lessons insignificant thus leading to your grande assumed cliche glorious triumph over me, OH MERCY!!!!!..........NOT!!! uh thegreatbeyond you're the idiot and if you didnt get the garage analogy you're also an idiot Obviously I get the analogy my good sir. Now returning back, the girl could have used much more better examples then that horrible analogy because there were so many things diffrent in that comparison. She had the option of choosing a much more pragmatic example, but instead she chose a stupid analogy that would most likely correspond to the idiots in my class to make herself seem rational. Conclusively she made an effort to demonstrate her "power" over those who dare to question her reasoning. In her mind she assumes and believes that the observations she has made of our society and her moral character relative to those observations is somehow superb and necessarily unquestionable when moral and rational reasoning is put into place. She also believes that insane people are born insane, and she cannot accept a flaw in any of her analogies, views, moral character in response to the grounds that a question were raised questioning her beliefs as sheepish or conformist. She constantly puts effort that her views are sane and unique, and anyone who rationally thought and viewed our society in our school while sighting the intricate flaws and holes that needed fixing, their views would at best be in relation to hers/or same hers. I don't have respect for people whom rely on sheep/mob mentality to either higher their ranks or higher their self-esteem/control over others/ to win arguments/ to win battles, which she did partly. From the grande finale of our fiasco, It seemed, she felt a little better and victiorious when her social reinforcements came while I was forced to drop it. It was possibly in her view, a surrender. | ||
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nA.Inky
United States794 Posts
It is true, you drew some criticism that was maybe overly harsh or silly. This is TL.net, tho, and if you come off like a bigshot, people are going to chew you up here. Is that good? Not really, but that's how it is. You came off unbelievably arrogant. A sincere apology would do wonders, and I think that if you apologized sincerely, you would have a lot of respect, because we all get a big head sometimes, and everyone fucks up, but few people have the testicular fortitude to admit it. Humble yourself! I'll tell ya something else. There is a good quote about how one of the most important, and most difficult, steps in spiritual development is giving other people permission to be stupid. I think this is true. Think about it. Peace. Nick | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
If you actually did read all of this, sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention. On November 30 2007 10:46 Thegreatbeyond wrote: My logic deos not fail , I don't know everything about the church subject/topic nor was I aware there were churches created to harbor non-christians or people of diffrent faiths, therefore my assumption was perfectly logical. Seriously though, this statement is just way off. Assumptions based off really limited knowledge are..meh. Also, even if the assumption is "logical", posting them around may not be. In the case of this particular statement, it makes you come off as the many things you say you aren't. | ||
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KH1031
United States862 Posts
I'm a TL.netter but I don't play starcraft | ||
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Polis
Poland1292 Posts
On November 30 2007 10:46 Thegreatbeyond wrote:My logic deos not fail , I don't know everything about the church subject/topic nor was I aware there were churches created to harbor non-christians or people of diffrent faiths, therefore my assumption was perfectly logical. It makes you close minded at best, if somebody is going to Church and is not a Christian and that would not be part of my reality then I would be interested in why. "Because she is stupid" is not really an answer. On November 30 2007 10:46 Thegreatbeyond wrote: Also, I'm not a keen fan of religious practices/beliefs, so I do not deviate to learn about these things from my normal time. They are not interesting for me either, but why do peaple participate in them at all and believe in mambo jumbo is interesting imo. On November 30 2007 10:46 Thegreatbeyond wrote:Second, the fact that some of you put effort just to humilate and insult me on my burst of arrogance, for your satisfiction, proves that you guys are just as childish and stupid as me when I wrote that post. People could go whit bandwagon and made fun of girl to fell superior also, worth to consider that no? On November 30 2007 10:46 Thegreatbeyond wrote:Obviously I get the analogy my good sir. Now returning back, the girl could have used much more better examples then that horrible analogy because there were so many things diffrent in that comparison. Analogy was to show just one thing, just like dog has for 4 legs does it make everything whit 4 legs a dog. I definitely can't alweys make perfect analogy on spot so common. On November 30 2007 10:46 Thegreatbeyond wrote:She had the option of choosing a much more pragmatic example, but instead she chose a stupid analogy that would most likely correspond to the idiots in my class to make herself seem rational. It was just used to get over "you have to be Christian to go to Church" becouse you were talking on that level that time, no? Anyway it is not about that specific discussion that we don't really know. It just seems to me that you pre assume that somebody is idiot, before you know they reasoning. Anyway only way to really win a debate is to understand reasoning of person that you are talking whit first, then you can "attack" it in logic way. I don't start conversation whit pre assumed goal I don't try to understand reasoning to attack somebody, it is just a consequence of me seeing flaws in it. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32098 Posts
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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
On November 30 2007 22:45 Hawk wrote: The return key is your friend when writing blogs. make paragraphs dude my thoughts exactly x.x | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
Only do it like Nick said, you go up, apologize, and that's it. Nothing else. Try and let me know what happens.  | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
Anyway, the more important thing you should have asked is if she participates in orgies with her "church". | ||
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Thegreatbeyond
United States287 Posts
On December 01 2007 07:10 EvilTeletubby wrote: Hey Thegreatbeyond, I have a suggestion. Go apologize to the girl for being wrong. In front of everyone. I'm completely serious. It will be very humbling and educational, I assure you. Only do it like Nick said, you go up, apologize, and that's it. Nothing else. Try and let me know what happens. In regards to the rest of everything that happened,she didn't even seem to be offended by my stabbing curiosity. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On December 01 2007 07:51 Thegreatbeyond wrote: In regards to the rest of everything that happened,she didn't even seem to be offended by my stabbing curiosity. Just try it. ^_^ | ||
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