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My Stupid Morals

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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
August 21 2007 21:38 GMT
#1
Why do I try so hard?

I let my friends borrow money when they're in need and they never pay me back...whenever I borrow money, I always pay back what I borrow.

Customers/people accidently overpay me without noticing (two 20's stuck together or some sort) and I always correct them...if I accidently overpay for something, I NEVER get back what I mistakenly spend (I know this because I keep track of what I spend).

I never steal, not even a small pack of gum from a local wawa I visit every day, yet people have stolen around $10,000 worth of stuff we own in just this summer.

And yet, I stick to my goody two-shoe morals like I'm bound by some force. I blindly trudge forward believing in the big balance of this universe, that not a single act passes by unseen, that retribution is always lurking around the corner.
Jeez, I'm so hopeless sometimes...


****
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
August 21 2007 21:40 GMT
#2


GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 21 2007 21:50 GMT
#3
I'm not religious at all, but Matthew 6:1-4 is still inspiring:

"Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
August 21 2007 21:51 GMT
#4
Well u and me are the same then. I believe that if I start behave good and treat ppl well they will follow. I mean, someone got to start doing it, so why not me? Very christian thoughts indeed, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

There is truth in that though. Keep up the morals and ppl will follow you
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
August 21 2007 21:53 GMT
#5
derren brown can help you in no time
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
August 21 2007 22:14 GMT
#6
i'm just like you
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 21 2007 22:15 GMT
#7
Hmm well you should continue to do good things, but don't let others take advantage of you.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 21 2007 22:29 GMT
#8
On August 22 2007 07:15 NonY[rC] wrote:
Hmm well you should continue to do good things, but don't let others take advantage of you.


Word. You obviously had a good upbringing, no shame in that, nor should you view it negatively.
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 21 2007 22:31 GMT
#9
On August 22 2007 07:15 NonY[rC] wrote:
Hmm well you should continue to do good things, but don't let others take advantage of you.


Found this out the hard way as a kid
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
August 21 2007 22:55 GMT
#10
Don't bother being immoral with little stuff like stealing gum or keeping someone's money if they overpay. Be immoral when it actually makes a big difference for you, i.e. if you find a suitcase full of money, KEEP IT :D
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
August 21 2007 23:23 GMT
#11
I can relate to what you're saying. I'm the same way, but I try to not let it bother me.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-21 23:34:08
August 21 2007 23:26 GMT
#12
Looks like you need someone to confirm to you that it is worthy to be moral. I am that guy. I have a problem with morals... nothing major, but still, it's annoying as hell and I fucking hate myself at times.

If what you wrote is 100% true, I admire you. People like you inspire me. Don't ever lose your morality. You have nothing to lose. If you're religious, you get eternal life. If you're not, you'll earn the trust of people around you anyway, and things will generally be MUCH better for you. MOST IMPORTANTLY, you will be able to go to sleep at night at peace with yourself, without worries. I tell you that as a man who almost got involved with an organized crime network -.-

Secondly, stop letting people take advantage of you. Just put your foot in the fucking door way (Romanian expression, dunno if it makes sense translated). What I mean is stand your ground. If a friend asks you for some money, and you're 70% or more certain that you won't see them back, say NO. Say you can't. You don't have. Whatever. Your relationship with such a person would go WAY better and healthier once he or she stops exploiting you.

If you DO lend money, set an EXACT time and date for the repayment. By exact I mean Thursday at 2:35 PM, in front of the Mall, near the yellow trailer, August 22 2007. Seriously. Don't accept any excuses or shit - YOU are the honest one, stop fearing a confrontation with your 'friends'.


Other than that, KEEP YOU MORALS, it's the best thing a man can have these days. A real MAN. I admire you, gl

EDIT: People with lesser morals involuntarily percept your morality as a flaw, some sort of code you must follow in certain situations, which you cannot evade. Thus you become predictable, as in you'll never forget to repay a financial debt for example. They exploit you because they are lesser, but you can stop this without lowering your own beliefs and methods of thinking.
WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LOWER YOURSELF TO THEIR LEVEL

I don't know how much sense this makes, but... gl with all
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
August 22 2007 00:16 GMT
#13
On August 22 2007 07:15 NonY[rC] wrote:
Hmm well you should continue to do good things, but don't let others take advantage of you.

qft
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
August 22 2007 00:20 GMT
#14
Keep doing what youre doing.
What you're doing is good, and you know that, so keep doing so.
More people should be like this.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 22 2007 00:34 GMT
#15
Fuck zil, that sucks balls.

But you sound like me; if I got all the money that I lent to my friends back I'd probably have somewhere along the lines of $3-4K. -_-;;;

I'm too easy to swindle T_T
^-^
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24795 Posts
August 22 2007 00:47 GMT
#16
What everyone else said pretty much sums up my feelings. Having the right mindset at life won't always benefit you from day to day, but in the long run the trend shows up. Like Nony was implying, don't let your friends borrow money from you and not pay you back. The more stuff like that happens the more it will keep happening. If you are honestly worried about the effect being fair with them will have on your friendship, you should evaluate that friendship.

On August 22 2007 08:26 minus_human wrote:
You have nothing to lose. If you're religious, you get eternal life. If you're not, you'll earn the trust of people around you anyway, and things will generally be MUCH better for you.

I agree with your post but I just have to point out a couple of problems I have with that since I see these things said often. Whether or not you're religious doesn't affect whether or not your beliefs are the truth. Also, because you judge yourself to be a moral person doesn't necessarily dictate whether or not you are going to get eternal life from a religious standpoint. That part about earning the trust of people around you, however, is very similar to what I was saying.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
August 22 2007 01:01 GMT
#17
On August 22 2007 07:15 NonY[rC] wrote:
Hmm well you should continue to do good things, but don't let others take advantage of you.


cant say it any better. sorry man, but dont let it get you down
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
August 22 2007 01:22 GMT
#18
On August 22 2007 09:47 micronesia wrote:
What everyone else said pretty much sums up my feelings. Having the right mindset at life won't always benefit you from day to day, but in the long run the trend shows up. Like Nony was implying, don't let your friends borrow money from you and not pay you back. The more stuff like that happens the more it will keep happening. If you are honestly worried about the effect being fair with them will have on your friendship, you should evaluate that friendship.

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On August 22 2007 08:26 minus_human wrote:
You have nothing to lose. If you're religious, you get eternal life. If you're not, you'll earn the trust of people around you anyway, and things will generally be MUCH better for you.

I agree with your post but I just have to point out a couple of problems I have with that since I see these things said often. Whether or not you're religious doesn't affect whether or not your beliefs are the truth. Also, because you judge yourself to be a moral person doesn't necessarily dictate whether or not you are going to get eternal life from a religious standpoint. That part about earning the trust of people around you, however, is very similar to what I was saying.


Yes I agree with that, but morals DO go hand in hand with religion. I was making a most natural assumption that if he (or any normal person) considers himself "moral", it usually is, if not the same thing, very close to the religious morals. Differences may occur of course, and my statement is still just an assumption. What he believes to be moral may not be so moral from a religious standpoint, but isn't he doing his best? Perhaps we should eliminate the religious part in considering his morals. Religion may get rigid at times, you know. Comparing yourself to the society you live it, its demands and rewards, is usually easier to grasp than religion IMO. At least because it leaves less room for interpretation and different perception to intelligent people.

Btw ilovezil, how religious ARE you? I'm curious
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
August 22 2007 01:31 GMT
#19
your morals shouldnt be based on how others treat you, keep going .
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
August 22 2007 02:18 GMT
#20
On August 22 2007 06:50 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I'm not religious at all, but Matthew 6:1-4 is still inspiring:

"Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."




Amen


so what do you wanna do, go stealing and break your morals? keep them up and be a good person, God bless
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