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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 07:35:11
June 19 2007 06:31 GMT
#1
Alright I was playing a 2v2 with a pubby and vs berated- (mouse) and duke_s.

Basically we were at a standoff, we kept killing berated/dukes tech buildings but then they both attacked me and I pretty much died. I still had 3 hatches tho, so I started to mine and then they came back to kill the rest. They killed 2 hatcheries and my last hatchery was at 100 hp and I shouted 'save extractor plz' but then my partner came and saved my hatch. I still had 2 drones hidden and so I came back and started mining (my hatch had 20 hp).

So after a while I got a lot of units again, like 12 lings (not much but w/e) and my partner scouted one of dukes expos. I attacked it with him and then berated and duke said "omg bm superior"
Here's sort of how the chat went.

Duke_S: wtf
Superiorwolf: ?
Duke_S: omg bm superior
berated-: dude
Duke_S: thats gay
Duke_S: ur retarded
Superiorwolf: :/
Duke_S: superior ur such a bitch
Duke_S: 14 year old assholes
berated-: superior never play with us again
Superiorwolf: its just a game
Superiorwolf: wow
Duke_S: and never come back on sc2.org
Superiorwolf: T_T
berated-: u cried for him to save ur extractor
Superiorwolf: sorry :/
Duke_S: no ur not
Duke_S has left the game.
berated- has the left the game.



Is coming back after a 'close' death bm? He didn't kill my hatch even though I said 'please save extractor'

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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
June 19 2007 06:38 GMT
#2
I played with berated- a lot, and he's never bm like this.
So I guess you must have done something stupid.
Karma is a bitch
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 19 2007 06:39 GMT
#3
On June 19 2007 15:38 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
I played with berated- a lot, and he's never bm like this.
So I guess you must have done something stupid.

Well they were winning until I came back and killed their expos
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
June 19 2007 06:47 GMT
#4
On June 19 2007 15:39 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 15:38 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
I played with berated- a lot, and he's never bm like this.
So I guess you must have done something stupid.

Well they were winning until I came back and killed their expos


Well it looks like they thought they killed everything you had except your extractor.
And you made them think you only had an extractor left, by crying for them to save your extractor.
I don't know, I'm too drunk to think, but I don't think what you did was bm, but still not right.
And I don't think they had to overreact on a normal 2v2 game.
Just forget about it.
Karma is a bitch
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
June 19 2007 06:56 GMT
#5
if you say 'leave extractor' that basically means that you're done and you just want to watch your partner lose.
yes, that's bm.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 06:58:13
June 19 2007 06:57 GMT
#6
lol "never come back to sc2.org"

because clearly he has the ability to ban you from that website

and your coming back in a game of starcraft after yelling "save my extractor" obviously is bad enough to ban you from forever watching progaming

talk about taking a random 2v2 fun starcraft too seriously, berated-
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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
June 19 2007 06:58 GMT
#7
well yeah when you say keep my extractor, you're saying I GIVE UP DON'T FINISH ME OFF. they could have killed you any time but they let you live because you asked. it was bm of you, though they didn't need to overreact that much
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 19 2007 07:00 GMT
#8
Yeah, wait till your last building is your extractor next time. You were bm, although not THAT much.
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
June 19 2007 07:02 GMT
#9
yah, that's kind of a dick move. next time that happens make sure to mention that you're still in the game atleast.

but those other people shouldn't be giving you such a hard time.
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 07:11:10
June 19 2007 07:09 GMT
#10
first off I'm not the one that said never come back to sc2.org, so umm? GJ superior so not only you bm that way you switch around what I say and then post it on TL.
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
June 19 2007 07:10 GMT
#11
and on top of that once he again he is going one sided. This is retarded. I did call him a bitch but there is so much more to the story. I feel like I'm back in highschool.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 19 2007 07:12 GMT
#12
On June 19 2007 16:10 bErAtEd- wrote:
and on top of that once he again he is going one sided. This is retarded. I did call him a bitch but there is so much more to the story. I feel like I'm back in highschool.

If it wasn't you it was Duke. I shoulda screenied.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 19 2007 07:13 GMT
#13
On June 19 2007 16:09 bErAtEd- wrote:
first off I'm not the one that said never come back to sc2.org, so umm? GJ superior so not only you bm that way you switch around what I say and then post it on TL.

Well it was either you or duke.
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berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
June 19 2007 07:13 GMT
#14
Not to mention the last time we gamed, when he totally sucked it up by using a one hatch build, he then bm'd all of us told one of the guys that he wasn't that good and asked him for a 1;1, but not until the next day because he had to go.

I stuck up for you on so many of your commentary threads, hoping that you would grow up and mature because I could tell that that was what you enjoyed doing. And this is the repayment ?
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 07:16:17
June 19 2007 07:15 GMT
#15
On June 19 2007 16:13 bErAtEd- wrote:I stuck up for you on so many of your commentary threads, hoping that you would grow up and mature because I could tell that that was what you enjoyed doing. And this is the repayment ?


Yah you did but whenever you're with 'the' people you do this sort of crap. I wanted to play a fun game and my partner saved my hat when it was about 26 hp so I thought I could keep playing. I said sorry and then duke rudely told me off

edit: and if you had kept your probe there I would have known he made sunks so I wouldn't have rushed him, but instead of the other guy who fast expoed.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 19 2007 07:34 GMT
#16
come back online
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DukE_ss
Profile Joined June 2007
United States689 Posts
June 19 2007 07:36 GMT
#17
YesI did over react towards what he did. But I wasn't really gonna ban him. I was just mad at the bm move superiorwolf did. And yes I was out of line by saying that but that doesn't take away being bm and doing a dick move on his part. Because we had game won intill he showed up out of nowhere.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 19 2007 07:49 GMT
#18
plz get back berated
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 19 2007 07:53 GMT
#19
Cmon guys, its a video game, don't let it get between you
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ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany639 Posts
June 19 2007 08:15 GMT
#20
As long as you got money and drones to get back into the game it is not bad mannered. they should have killed you and they did not kill you. it's their own fault. I think it's more bad mannered to flame you than to do this move.

I never let people obs the game because of this. Maybe it's just the blood lust or just to be sure he's dead. :3
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 08:34:53
June 19 2007 08:32 GMT
#21
On June 19 2007 16:13 bErAtEd- wrote:
Not to mention the last time we gamed, when he totally sucked it up by using a one hatch build, he then bm'd all of us told one of the guys that he wasn't that good and asked him for a 1;1, but not until the next day because he had to go.

I stuck up for you on so many of your commentary threads, hoping that you would grow up and mature because I could tell that that was what you enjoyed doing. And this is the repayment ?


Come on berated- i thought you were more than that XD
He's a 14-year old cut him some slack, you could obviously tell he doesn't know how to play starcraft very well by his commentaries.
Forget about it, waste of your time to argue with a kid.
Game sometime?


On June 19 2007 17:15 ScoutWBF wrote:
As long as you got money and drones to get back into the game it is not bad mannered. they should have killed you and they did not kill you. it's their own fault. I think it's more bad mannered to flame you than to do this move.

I never let people obs the game because of this. Maybe it's just the blood lust or just to be sure he's dead. :3


But the problem here is, the kid gave them the impression he only had a extractor left. He didn't lie, but didn't tell them that he still had a hatch.
Karma is a bitch
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
June 19 2007 08:33 GMT
#22
you are probably playing with the wrong people then scout

it's clearly bm, you're passively lying. i'd be pretty annoyed too =(
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 08:36:24
June 19 2007 08:34 GMT
#23
Well they should have seen on the minimap that I still had a hatch in the fog of war
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
June 19 2007 08:37 GMT
#24
On June 19 2007 17:34 Superiorwolf wrote:
Well they should have seen on the minimap that I still had a hatch in the fog of war


Whatever, it was just a 2v2 public game.
Nothing big, forget about it.
berated- will hopefully cool off in a day or two.
Karma is a bitch
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
June 19 2007 08:41 GMT
#25
On June 19 2007 17:37 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 17:34 Superiorwolf wrote:
Well they should have seen on the minimap that I still had a hatch in the fog of war


Whatever, it was just a 2v2 public game.
Nothing big, forget about it.
berated- will hopefully cool off in a day or two.


I'm already cooled down, I have no problem. I was more mad that he couldn't just come talk to me about it if he had a problem. He had to come to TL and post it and then mix up our words. Did I react negatively? Yes, but I get frustrated when I stick up for someone and then they do stuff like this. It is a pretty shitty feeling.

In the same manner though, I'm not going to watch my words and worry about what gets said. Yes its just a video game but I know everyone has gotten upset at the way has gone before. Its because we care about this game, or else we wouldn't still be playing it 10 yrs after it was released. So, I'm just choosing to remove myself from the situation with the knowledge that he is just a 14 yr. old.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
June 19 2007 08:46 GMT
#26
On June 19 2007 17:41 bErAtEd- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 17:37 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
On June 19 2007 17:34 Superiorwolf wrote:
Well they should have seen on the minimap that I still had a hatch in the fog of war


Whatever, it was just a 2v2 public game.
Nothing big, forget about it.
berated- will hopefully cool off in a day or two.


I'm already cooled down, I have no problem. I was more mad that he couldn't just come talk to me about it if he had a problem. He had to come to TL and post it and then mix up our words. Did I react negatively? Yes, but I get frustrated when I stick up for someone and then they do stuff like this. It is a pretty shitty feeling.

In the same manner though, I'm not going to watch my words and worry about what gets said. Yes its just a video game but I know everyone has gotten upset at the way has gone before. Its because we care about this game, or else we wouldn't still be playing it 10 yrs after it was released. So, I'm just choosing to remove myself from the situation with the knowledge that he is just a 14 yr. old.


Cool!
Now time for some sc!
Karma is a bitch
MiLktoast
Profile Joined June 2006
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 08:50:42
June 19 2007 08:50 GMT
#27
buttseks
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 19 2007 11:19 GMT
#28
we solved it
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 19 2007 11:31 GMT
#29
yay! happily ever after time
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
June 19 2007 11:57 GMT
#30
For future reference superior, when you say "leave extractor" or anything like that it measn you give up and are not in the game anymore, that system was used on PGT and ICCup, you take away from the trust and everything, If someone asks me to leave his extractor and i leave extractor pool hatch or something i do not exspect him to come back into the game, if i have 15 zealots killing his shit and he says "leave pool plz" i can leave right then and there, he gave up. When you say leave a structure it means you give up, even if they leave more then that you still gave up.

If you tink you can live and survive, then don't give up and say that. I don't want to have to report a game everytime my partner wins a 1v2 because they eliminated me because some kids go around saying "let me ob" and then rebuild.

(that's like 15 unneccsary reports in this ICCup season alone)

In short, don't be a dickhead, you were BM. They rightfully won that game from the sounds of it and a cheater lost them the game.
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
June 19 2007 16:04 GMT
#31
You know very well that it was BM.

Saying something like "please save extractor" is the teamplay equivalent of saying "GG" in a 1v1.
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
June 19 2007 16:18 GMT
#32
Well you told them you were dead and only wanted to watch when you actually weren't. Since that was what let you come back yea it was pretty lame.

If you were going to rebuild you should have at least said something.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
June 19 2007 17:22 GMT
#33
Yes it's bm to say "leave extractor" and rebuild in 2v2.
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dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
June 19 2007 20:04 GMT
#34
it's really bad form to take advantage of your opponents who were willing to let you obs the game. however, to blow this whole matter out of proportion with a "hay guyz what did i do wrong?" blog post is even worse. take into consideration the fact that this guy supported you on tl when quite a good number of people were flaming your commentaries, and it all adds up to a HUGE FAIL on your part. you have quite a bit of growing up to do.
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 20:26:59
June 19 2007 20:21 GMT
#35
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
June 19 2007 20:43 GMT
#36
You shouted save the extractor and not save the hatchery so I don't see how it's bad manner.
Unless you said gg and then save the extractor, it's ok.
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spetial
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States688 Posts
June 19 2007 22:13 GMT
#37
yes its BM
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
June 19 2007 23:25 GMT
#38
dramas OH SHIT
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 20 2007 00:08 GMT
#39

Ok thx guys I know it's bm now
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
June 20 2007 01:30 GMT
#40
question of the century "omgawd is dis bm??"
HappyFeetO_O
Profile Joined June 2007
China350 Posts
June 20 2007 01:32 GMT
#41
On June 19 2007 17:32 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 16:13 bErAtEd- wrote:
Not to mention the last time we gamed, when he totally sucked it up by using a one hatch build, he then bm'd all of us told one of the guys that he wasn't that good and asked him for a 1;1, but not until the next day because he had to go.

I stuck up for you on so many of your commentary threads, hoping that you would grow up and mature because I could tell that that was what you enjoyed doing. And this is the repayment ?


Come on berated- i thought you were more than that XD
He's a 14-year old cut him some slack, you could obviously tell he doesn't know how to play starcraft very well by his commentaries.
Forget about it, waste of your time to argue with a kid.
Game sometime?


Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 17:15 ScoutWBF wrote:
As long as you got money and drones to get back into the game it is not bad mannered. they should have killed you and they did not kill you. it's their own fault. I think it's more bad mannered to flame you than to do this move.

I never let people obs the game because of this. Maybe it's just the blood lust or just to be sure he's dead. :3


But the problem here is, the kid gave them the impression he only had a extractor left. He didn't lie, but didn't tell them that he still had a hatch.


Christ shutup with this condescending "kid" shit, especially the part insulting his ability at SC, since a paraplegic in a wheelchair could play better than you, just by using his tongue on the mouse.
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ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
June 20 2007 03:40 GMT
#42
Yes that's incredibly bad manner. They were mannered enough not to kill your stuff, and to let you ob and you still stabbed them in the back. If you didn't ask then whatever it's their own fault for not killing you, but you did and thus you should observe since that's the reaosn you asked not to be killed.
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 10:33:24
June 20 2007 10:32 GMT
#43
On June 20 2007 10:32 HappyFeetO_O wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 17:32 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
On June 19 2007 16:13 bErAtEd- wrote:
Not to mention the last time we gamed, when he totally sucked it up by using a one hatch build, he then bm'd all of us told one of the guys that he wasn't that good and asked him for a 1;1, but not until the next day because he had to go.

I stuck up for you on so many of your commentary threads, hoping that you would grow up and mature because I could tell that that was what you enjoyed doing. And this is the repayment ?


Come on berated- i thought you were more than that XD
He's a 14-year old cut him some slack, you could obviously tell he doesn't know how to play starcraft very well by his commentaries.
Forget about it, waste of your time to argue with a kid.
Game sometime?


On June 19 2007 17:15 ScoutWBF wrote:
As long as you got money and drones to get back into the game it is not bad mannered. they should have killed you and they did not kill you. it's their own fault. I think it's more bad mannered to flame you than to do this move.

I never let people obs the game because of this. Maybe it's just the blood lust or just to be sure he's dead. :3


But the problem here is, the kid gave them the impression he only had a extractor left. He didn't lie, but didn't tell them that he still had a hatch.


Christ shutup with this condescending "kid" shit, especially the part insulting his ability at SC, since a paraplegic in a wheelchair could play better than you, just by using his tongue on the mouse.


Here we go my first flame war!!!
I didn't call him a kid to insult him. I was just trying to tell berated- that he doesn't know the manners of 2v2 well since he doesn't have much experience like him.
I think you can call a 14 year old a kid, or do kids mature too fast these days? Also, I don't know about China, but in Korea kid isn't an insult. Hell my boss calls me a kid, and other older people call me a kid.
Oh, and if he isn't offended by it, why the hell are you offended by it?
We PM'ed each other for a manner game, and everything is cool, so why start shit?
But I do have to agree with you a paraplegic in a wheelchair could play better than me using his tongue as a mouse ^^.

One word of advice, don't talk when you don't know what's going on fucker XD

Edit: When did you become a staff Midian? Just noticed it XD
Karma is a bitch
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
June 20 2007 11:49 GMT
#44
This is definitely BM. After you tell your opponents to spare your last building, you should stop building anything, even if it turns out that you can keep playing. They're doing you a favor by keeping you alive. And if you wanted to keep playing, why didn't you say something like, "Nevermind, I'm still in the game," to let them know? You were being sneaky about it.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
June 22 2007 04:02 GMT
#45
lol fantasy i saw a 12 year old smoking yesterday, he also uses cigarrettes and chewing tabaco. That kinda messed with my world a bit, when i was that age i was like "lol penis" and they are like "time to get FUCKED UP"

and he is a kid. Kid is usually used online in a condescending way anyway, atleast imo.
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