• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:46
CEST 14:46
KST 21:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview7TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection5Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview What kind of tool would you be interested in? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June FlaSh's ASL S21 Finals Review BW animated web series: seeking contributors 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event
Tourneys
[BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread How cold is too cold to be outdoors? Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4641 users

RIP Mark Hollis

Blogs > Jockmcplop
Post a Reply
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 18:07:25
February 27 2019 17:52 GMT
#1
This won't get much attention although it has been in the news recently.

Mark Hollis, the singer of Talk Talk, has died, so I'm making this post as an homage.

You probably haven't heard much about Talk Talk, but they started as an 80's synth pop band and went on to create the genre of post-rock, which became incredibly popular in the early 2000s.
Without Talk Talk, there would be no Radiohead.
Mark Hollis was a visionary and an underrated musical genius.

I'm going to start with the catchiest Talk Talk song - 'Living in Another World'. This is, for me, the pinnacle of early style Talk Talk.
At first listen it sounds like standard 80s synthy pop music, but the details and the arrangement are perfect. I've never heard a harmonica sound that blends in so effortlessly with the music. The song seems to change key at every chorus, but its just clever chord structuring. Those backing vocals are so simple but so perfect:

+ Show Spoiler +


Now it gets interesting. After making some great pop albums Hollis decided to try something new. The result was the amazing 1988 album 'The Spirit of Eden'.
This album isn't very well known outside of music nerd circles, but its incredibly influential. You can hear the influence in a wide range of music from Coldplay to Mogwai. It brings in a jazz influence and epic, fluid song structures.

+ Show Spoiler +


The next one is from my favourite Talk Talk album, their final effort 'Laughing Stock'.
Somehow even more sparse and ambient than Eden, this album is a revelation for people who think that post rock started in the 90s or with Slint.
There's a fragility and a beauty to these songs that has rarely been matched since. The arrangements, which were already brilliant in their early work, are so cleverly detailed and show such a massive range of influences. These song tend to focus heavily on small sounds and musical 'negative space'(ie the silence between notes that emphasizes the musicality).
+ Show Spoiler +



I hope you give these songs a listen and I hope someone new finds Talk Talk as a result of this post. Hollis deserves a lasting legacy for his talent.

My favourite Mark Hollis quote:

“Before you play two notes, learn how to play one note, y’know. And that, it’s as simple as that really. And don’t play one note unless you’ve got a reason to play it.”


<3

*****
RIP Meatloaf <3
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 11:01:18
February 28 2019 10:58 GMT
#2
<3 talk talk

"not enough rights"
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
February 28 2019 14:46 GMT
#3
This is so sad. Strange to come across this news here of all places, but I'm glad I did so thank you so much for posting!

For me, Mark Hollis is one of the finest musicians to ever have walked this planet. His work always stood out clearly from everything else. It just seems to have this infinite depth. I feel like no matter how much I listen, I can never quite figure it out, it just keeps surprising me, endlessly revealing new facets.

As a musician myself, his work has been incredibly inspirational for me. Especially his self entitled album, which is just such a true work of art. I don't like to sprinkle superlatives around me but I've honestly never heard a recording capture the presence of a moment that well. If I could have been a fly on the wall during any album recording process throughout history, that's the one I would have chosen to witness. So eerie, so alive, so close...how the fuck did he do it??

About a year ago I came back to listening to him and Talk Talk after a period of time, and since then I've been kind of fantasising about him coming back to the world and actually playing live or recording again. But I guess he really was done. Not much had been heard about him since he withdrew in the 90's, at least not anything I've been able to find. Now that he's gone, I find myself really hoping that he was content with whatever he was doing, and that his withdrawal really was intentional.

Man, this really grips at my heart. Funny that his own music is so perfect for reflecting upon someone's death.

<3
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
February 28 2019 18:20 GMT
#4
I first heard this news listening to the norwegian radio channel: NRK P2, the foremost channel for everything intellectual and cultural in my country, yet his importance in music was barely mentioned at all. I had expected more from what is perceived to be the radio channel for the cultural elite, but i guess they are more concerned with classsical music and jazz.

Other than the usual conversation about Talk Talks substantial popularity in the mainstream during the 80s and No Doubts cover of It's my Life, the two hosts only touched upon the last two albums for their stark departure from previous albums and their lack of success which had left some record company executive (legend has it) in tears upon first listening to their new direction in musical style, NOT because of its beauty, but rather over its complete lack of commercial potential.

I was quite dissaponted listening to how lightly they talked about the mans passing and how they failled to properly assess his most valuable contributions to music. However, i can through a google search as i am wtiting this, see euologies appearing in a couple of our most important newspapers. Warms my heart. And more should be written in the coming days. Which is to be expected when what was one of the most respected musicians out there leaves us.

The story and myth of Talk Talk and Mark Hollis is one of the most incredible in "popular music". They went from being a massive selling synth-pop act, into creating music that...really never had been heard before. Many have 1988s Spirit of Eden as the starting point of post-rock (or-pop?) .Despite what you might call it, the fact is that they threw out all of the rock and pop concepts known to us at that point. They saw many of these concepts as obstacles in creating a form of music that lay as close as possible to the true heart and spirit of human beings. Their search for beauty and atmposphere in music knew no boundaries.

Mark Hollis was extremely elusive and private. He completely left the public eye in the early 90s and to re-emerge only that one time in 1998 to release his only ever solo album (what AlgeriaT said above me on that album me is very well put). In interviews Hollis would refuse to talk about anything else than the music. And that part is what saddens me the most on day a like this. We will never get to hear from him reflecting on what it all meant...to him. But maybe thats what he wanted. Just leave us with the music as his final statement and let each individual resonate with it on their own terms.

I can only reiterate what Jockmcplop said about giving these songs a listen. This is truly one of a kind artist that have passed away. RIP Mark
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#90
IntoTheiNu 1431
WardiTV799
Rex144
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 144
Codebar 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1721
Hyuk 1346
Jaedong 889
Killer 868
EffOrt 828
Horang2 579
actioN 343
Light 283
ggaemo 267
Snow 245
[ Show more ]
Rush 194
Free 170
Soulkey 142
Pusan 101
Leta 93
Backho 72
JulyZerg 49
JYJ 43
Sea.KH 41
scan(afreeca) 39
Sharp 38
Hm[arnc] 37
Shine 30
sorry 30
HiyA 27
910 24
Barracks 23
NotJumperer 23
GoRush 20
Noble 20
Icarus 17
zelot 16
SilentControl 14
Movie 9
Terrorterran 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe106
qojqva5
Counter-Strike
fl0m3972
olofmeister1895
Dendi459
zeus288
markeloff81
Other Games
B2W.Neo1074
Lowko779
hiko417
crisheroes316
Pyrionflax235
Mew2King46
SHIN 18
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick562
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2937
• TFBlade461
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 14m
Replay Cast
11h 14m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 14m
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 22h
Maestros of the Game
2 days
Classic vs Lambo
Clem vs Maru
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Serral vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.