• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:02
CEST 19:02
KST 02:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202518Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced29BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Shield Battery Server New Patch BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 728 users

The Investening

Blogs > Trainrunnef
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-10 14:41:59
July 10 2017 14:29 GMT
#1
So I just finished reading Rich Dad Poor Dad after a loooooonng time of procrastinating and feeling like i didn't have enough capital to start investing. I have finally said Fuck it... I will begin, and I will fail, but I will continue to persevere. I will start with investing about 100$ per month in a few stocks. I will not diversify, and I will not be balanced, so dont expect that from me. As Kiyosaki mentions in the book (paraphrased because i cant remember the exact quote)

" I like the Texas attitude, they with big, and lose spectacularly"

I will post the buys so that we can all enjoy the show. Once my first deposit clears (friday, I will post the info).

Lets have some fun!

P.S. most of these will be speculative - I have a 401k for balance and a savings account for stability. This is not the blog series or the account for that so if you have that sort of advice you can save it for PM or another day.

Cheers!

P.P.S I have no investing experience so the plan is to lose and learn, rather than play it safe. As I go I will be refining my style and the determining what I want to invest in while researching the topics and growing my knowledge base on the market. I've already got a good list of books which I will be working through as I take on this challenge. Among them are:

The intelligent invester
Essays of warren buffet
value investing
stocks for the long run
little book of common sense investing
one up on wall street
competitive strategy
the ascent of money
thinking fast and slow
Beating the street
How to make money in stocks
Bogleheads guide to investing

I realize that many of these run counter to the purposes of this blog, but I realize that the vast majority of my money is in these types of accounts so I want to build up a good foundation of knowledge and so that I can understand what is going on in the general market and with the rest of my funds. after these, which I hope to have completed by the end of the year, I want to start looking into some books on more exotic investment strategies and opportunities and see where that takes me.

Again...

Cheers!

*****
I am, therefore I pee
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-10 18:03:55
July 10 2017 18:01 GMT
#2
do you have any plan on how to beat the stock market?
or is it just "lose and learn and read some books"? how will you learn from your losses?
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9378 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-10 21:57:30
July 10 2017 21:54 GMT
#3
Don't read so many books. Understand the basics and then just spam financial spreadsheets and analyze numbers in excel. You can find free information on the internet and then you can learn by doing.

Also

> So I just finished reading Rich Dad Poor Dad after a loooooonng time of procrastinating and feeling like i didn't have enough

Shitty generic book that never goes into specifics. Anyone could write that.

Anyway, learning to invest is a waste of time - don't believe salespeople trying to convince you its doable to beat the market. Yes it is if you spend thousnads of hours analyzing everything + highly intelligent. Chances are you won't and instead will be wasting time.
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 10 2017 22:10 GMT
#4
On July 11 2017 06:54 Hider wrote:
Don't read so many books. Understand the basics and then just spam financial spreadsheets and analyze numbers in excel. You can find free information on the internet and then you can learn by doing.

Also

> So I just finished reading Rich Dad Poor Dad after a loooooonng time of procrastinating and feeling like i didn't have enough

Shitty generic book that never goes into specifics. Anyone could write that.

Anyway, learning to invest is a waste of time - don't believe salespeople trying to convince you its doable to beat the market. Yes it is if you spend thousnads of hours analyzing everything + highly intelligent. Chances are you won't and instead will be wasting time.



Totally agree on the book, but it served its purpose... it was a motivator to stop being lazy about my finances. I was doing budget tracking and some basic stuff on my 401k (going with lowest cost funds possible). but I have always wanted to do more, not necessarily trying to beat the market, but making sure that I am maximizing the earnings. I'm also going to be starting my own business (as a second income for now), which again I have been nervous to do, but the book has lit a fire so to speak.
I am, therefore I pee
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 10 2017 22:12 GMT
#5
On July 11 2017 03:01 beg wrote:
do you have any plan on how to beat the stock market?
or is it just "lose and learn and read some books"? how will you learn from your losses?



For now I'm just going to be speculating and going by instinct. as time goes I will refine that based on the strategies I find in the various books and articles I will start absorbing. Short answer is I have no clue, long answer is it will depend on what I see and read and how I choose to use the experiences. the goal is not to become afraid, but also not to be stupid about it, acknowledging that there will be losses.
I am, therefore I pee
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9378 Posts
July 11 2017 03:55 GMT
#6
On July 11 2017 07:10 Trainrunnef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2017 06:54 Hider wrote:
Don't read so many books. Understand the basics and then just spam financial spreadsheets and analyze numbers in excel. You can find free information on the internet and then you can learn by doing.

Also

> So I just finished reading Rich Dad Poor Dad after a loooooonng time of procrastinating and feeling like i didn't have enough

Shitty generic book that never goes into specifics. Anyone could write that.

Anyway, learning to invest is a waste of time - don't believe salespeople trying to convince you its doable to beat the market. Yes it is if you spend thousnads of hours analyzing everything + highly intelligent. Chances are you won't and instead will be wasting time.



Totally agree on the book, but it served its purpose... it was a motivator to stop being lazy about my finances. I was doing budget tracking and some basic stuff on my 401k (going with lowest cost funds possible). but I have always wanted to do more, not necessarily trying to beat the market, but making sure that I am maximizing the earnings. I'm also going to be starting my own business (as a second income for now), which again I have been nervous to do, but the book has lit a fire so to speak.


Fair point, but beating the financial market is one of the most difficult things in the world, and you are just better spending your time elsewhere. Like if you have a good business idea, focus on that.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 11 2017 15:53 GMT
#7
you should probably invest via a IRA or Roth IRA for the tax benefits btw.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-11 17:07:27
July 11 2017 17:06 GMT
#8
On July 12 2017 00:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
you should probably invest via a IRA or Roth IRA for the tax benefits btw.


Maxed out on my retirement accounts. including a 457
I am, therefore I pee
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 11 2017 17:13 GMT
#9
Sooo....

This is where were at today

[image loading]

Possible Lesson 1.... i will probably be trading too often for TD Ameritrade to be a good choice.... I need lower cost per trade... We will see how this develops.
I am, therefore I pee
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 11 2017 17:40 GMT
#10
you could use robinhood for no commission trades - there are a few others who offer that as well.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 11 2017 19:57 GMT
#11
Also Eyeing

KNSC @ .0004 (trading at .0006 hopefully it comes down to .0004 before the statement pops)
Owns a Ramen chain with strong earnings and growth Looking forward to Q2 statements.

ENDV@.029
Electroceuticals Company based on NASA discovered tech. currently holding a few patents. and waiting on pre-clinical trial results.... totally dependent on the pre-trial results for pricing, but we will see how things pan out.
I am, therefore I pee
Cauld
Profile Joined February 2010
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-12 00:42:37
July 12 2017 00:21 GMT
#12
This seems fun. I'll definitely follow along.

KNSC is pretty weird. Seems like it was a former consumer electronics company focusing on selling solar chargers, then got into social media management. And now is being acquired via a reverse merger by its CEO who owns a chain of mediocre ramen places with 2 locations in Miami??? or something?
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-12 15:12:16
July 12 2017 15:01 GMT
#13
So this is where we are at today. [image loading]


Decided to go a little heavier into GLLK it hasn't broken the .0003 barrier in a while, but I will likely hold my position. I doubt I will go any heavier into it.

I'm pissed about KNSC because my deposit hasn't hit yet. I wanted to buy it at .0003 on monday and now its sitting at .0008.... Annoying. The plan was to buy $200 bucks worth, hold half and use the other half to trade.

ENDV is in the same boat, but at leas that one is only up about 5% from where I wanted to buy on monday.


Lesson 2- deposits suck when you have non-marginable buys to make.

Strategy Update - I will likely be buying mainly otc stocks and every deposit will go to a different stock unless there is an overwhelming reason to reinforce an existing purchase.
I am, therefore I pee
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 12 2017 17:42 GMT
#14
Wow... KNSC is up to .001 AKA 333% from where I wanted to buy monday.... FU slow ass transactions... watch it go up to .01 by friday when I can actually buy...
I am, therefore I pee
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 13 2017 14:38 GMT
#15
Keep an eye on Trump's tweets and do very short time frame investing if a specific company or sector is mentioned .
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
July 13 2017 17:47 GMT
#16
[image loading]
TranslatorBaa!
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 13 2017 23:35 GMT
#17
Nothing new to report. Gllk hasn't moved. Likely won't for some time at least until phase 1 surveys are complete.
I am, therefore I pee
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-13 23:38:11
July 13 2017 23:36 GMT
#18
On July 13 2017 23:38 Doodsmack wrote:
Keep an eye on Trump's tweets and do very short time frame investing if a specific company or sector is mentioned .


Let me take a look at the stock impacts over the weekend and I'll see if there is any pattern.

This should be fun

Edit:. I just remembered that NPR is running an investment bot that is doing this. It's called the BOTUS
I am, therefore I pee
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 14 2017 17:24 GMT
#19
New Suspect

CLLS just started clinical trials on CAR - T-cell therapy to combat cancer ... up almost 100% since the start of the year.
I am, therefore I pee
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-15 17:06:18
July 15 2017 17:05 GMT
#20
Are you using a specific strategy to filter out stocks?

I can vouch for ticklishmusic's recommendation about Robinhood. No trade commissions and the app is free, but one of the downsides is it can take 2-3 days to move money in and out of your account. Once you have the deposited funds, trades are executed immediately. It's all done on a smartphone however, so I use a separate app to organize and keep track of my stocks.
t(ツ)t
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV European League
16:00
Round 5
WardiTV608
TKL 236
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 353
Hui .347
TKL 236
BRAT_OK 77
UpATreeSC 69
MindelVK 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 2161
Bisu 1631
EffOrt 1128
Mini 943
Larva 322
ggaemo 165
Mind 128
Snow 124
Dewaltoss 71
PianO 67
[ Show more ]
Killer 53
soO 49
JYJ45
Movie 44
Sea.KH 37
Aegong 32
yabsab 24
Terrorterran 18
Shinee 17
Sacsri 16
IntoTheRainbow 5
sas.Sziky 5
Dota 2
Gorgc7037
qojqva4133
XcaliburYe351
Counter-Strike
fl0m5031
olofmeister595
sgares455
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken48
Other Games
singsing1834
Mlord531
crisheroes417
Fuzer 387
Lowko295
QueenE65
Trikslyr64
B2W.Neo39
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH139
• davetesta43
• poizon28 34
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 5023
• WagamamaTV683
League of Legends
• Nemesis3625
• Jankos1013
• TFBlade966
Other Games
• Shiphtur139
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
6h 58m
OSC
19h 28m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
22h 58m
The PondCast
1d 16h
Online Event
1d 22h
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Online Event
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.