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My new guitar tuning method

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aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-16 22:31:59
April 16 2016 22:29 GMT
#1
Hello. First let me say that I am self-taught, so a lot of the guitar issues I come across are my own, and I solve them on my own. So perhaps these issues are actually non-issues for other people, but it's a rewarding journey for me either way. My latest problem and its solution are so exciting to me that I decided to blog it.


One of my great frustrations with guitar is that guitars never quite sound in tune. Something always sounds off. I understood this to be due to the inharmonicity of (plucked) stringed instruments, and also due to the inherent flaws of a fretted instrument.

One of my first attempted solutions was to tune the guitar to an important chord in the song I was playing, using electronic tuners. I would tune to the chord I most wanted to be in tune (or in other words, the chord that annoyed me the most if not in tune), which was usually the chord before the chorus. However, this is not a very satisfying solution, and you still constantly feel like things are not in tune.

Now, when you hear a guitar, what you perceive as the "pitch" is generally not the fundamental but the 1st overtone (the octave above the real fundamental pitch). When you are tuning and your ear is focused, you perceive both the fundamental and the 1st overtone and probably the 2nd and 3rd overtones contribute too. For the low bass strings, the inharmonicity can be significant, and this is why it seems impossible to tune and strings seem simultaneously too low and too high, no matter which direction you adjust.

THE SOLUTION, my dearest friends, is to tune, by ear, to the 12th fret, or octave, 1st harmonic!!! You are tuning to the 1st overtone of the harmonic (as it is perceived more strongly than the fundamental pitch), which is the 3rd overtone or 2nd octave of the fundamental of the string. By doing this, you are essentially tuning your guitar so that the overtones are in tune, which is similar to how they tune pianos; and thus, in normal playing (when you are not really perceiving those fundamental tones), everything sounds in tune! To my surprise, moving up the fret board in different positions still sounds in tune too.

Et voila. :^)
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 04:08:03
April 17 2016 04:07 GMT
#2
yeah this is well known.

the standard way of tuning is tune the natural harmonics of the 5th fret of a bigger (say E) string to the natural harmonics of the 5th fret of the next (say A) string.

you do that for all the strings except for the G / B pairs of strings which is a 3rd instead of a 4th apart.

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aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
April 17 2016 04:52 GMT
#3
I don't know why they don't just lead with that when you google 'how to tune a guitar'
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 17 2016 07:13 GMT
#4
It is possible for both the open string and 12th fret harmonic to be in tune simultaneously. Such tuning process is called fine tuning. It basically means adjusting the string length at the bridge so that the 12th fret is exactly halfway the fingerboard. Can't be done reliably if the strings are worn. Fine tuning can be necessary when changing the tuning, string gauges or adjusting the truss rod.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 17 2016 09:39 GMT
#5
On April 17 2016 16:13 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
It is possible for both the open string and 12th fret harmonic to be in tune simultaneously. Such tuning process is called fine tuning. It basically means adjusting the string length at the bridge so that the 12th fret is exactly halfway the fingerboard. Can't be done reliably if the strings are worn. Fine tuning can be necessary when changing the tuning, string gauges or adjusting the truss rod.

think this actually called intonation tuning, unless im mixing in a 3rd separate concept
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