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WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 07:39:52
February 06 2016 00:16 GMT
#1
For months I tried iCCup, and I didn't get very far. People on my level were Peruvian trash players that lagged like hell. I played iCCup because I'm on the east coast of the US and Koreans would ban me.

After downloading nearly every Fish map available, I've been able to play Fish as long as everybody has wDetector so my ping doesn't hurt me or anybody else. My Korean is decent and I've made some friends on Fish, so blending in is pretty easy.


I will be updating my blog after every Fish session and posting a short summary, hopefully to see my progress.
When creating this blog, the stats on every account combined were:

W: 5
L: 83
D/C: 1

I will only include 1v1 and exclude any games played on 빠른무한 (Fastest Map) or 헌터 (Big Game Hunters) or with any speed multipliers.


DAY 1:
W: 1
L: 20
D/C: 0
Day1 was originally split but that's not very orderly so whatever.. no more of that, now it's by the calendar.

DAY 2:
W: 1
L: 17
D/C: 0
Thought I was winning a game, then a bunch of BCs rushed into my base. FML

DAY 3:
W: 2
L: 18
D/C: 0
The first guy I beat had no stats and the account was fresh. Obviously not a new player and I feel like I played really well compared to my normal play. It was a TvT on Fighting Spirit, and I locked down his third. Looking over the replay he made a lot of mistakes, though.

DAY 4:
W: 3
L: 26
D/C: 0
It was a grinding day with nothing unusual. 28 games on Fighting Spirit and one on Python

DAY 5:
W: 0
L: 3
D/C: 0
Feeling a little sad today, so I didn't play much.

DAY 6:
W: 0
L: 1
D/C: 0
Lost to a 9 pool and my opponent kept telling me to kill myself. I'm not going to play anymore today.

DAY 7:
W: 5
L: 17
D/C: 0
I wish I could improve faster.

DAY 8:
W: 4
L: 23
D/C: 0
My win rate is going up which indicates improvement, but at this rate I'll never get into the ladder.

DAY[9]:
W: 5
L: 21
D/C: 0
I had fun, it's nice to see Fish is always active. Server shuts down at 5 AM tho

DAY 10:
W: 6
L: 23
D/C: 0
With the news that Flash is coming back it was surprisingly really difficult to find even games. A bunch of oldies were on and I was getting fried.

DAY 11:
W: 11
L: 47
D/C: 0
I couldn't sleep so was playing Fish for about 10 hours.

DAY 12:
W: 8
L: 25
D/C: 0
The game feels less chaotic every day

DAY 13/14:
W: 38
L: 84
D/C: 1
Two days because I was temp banned from TL. I got into a clan and they're coaching me which is super awesome. I might be getting somewhere!

DAY 15:
W: 16
L: 32
D/C: 0
Eh

DAY 16:
W: 6
L: 7
D/C: 0
Took a day off for Flash's stream

DAY 17:
W: 12
L: 32
D/C: 0
I feel some improvement. Hunters and Fastest are great for mechanical practice, and I did my best to copy Flash's Valkyrie play. Mutas don't rape me anymore :D

DAY 18:
W: 16
L: 29
D/C: 1
Drop hacker under the name JacobJJang but aside from that everything is normal

DAY 19:
W: 12
L: 24
D/C: 0
Meh

DAY 20:
W: 13
L: 43
D/C: 0
T_T

DAY 21:
W: 16
L: 32
D/C: 0
Trying new things. Don't wanna learn only one style

DAY 22/23:
W: 32
L: 80 something idk
D/C: 1 (drop hacker)
Guy drop hacked me at the beginning of the game, what a retard lol

DAY 24:
Not sure, but I'll be updating this less frequently. I'm dedicating more time to this and I want to be really good, can't spend time dwelling over my win rate

Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
February 06 2016 10:08 GMT
#2
Don't worry, one day you will get there. We need more foreign terran :D
Unlike me, who is still a E- ...
Where is my ACE flair
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
February 06 2016 12:15 GMT
#3
no point refering to peruvians as "trash players," they have to play with like 300 ping... you should learn from their tenacity instead of shitting on them?
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 06 2016 12:25 GMT
#4
On February 06 2016 21:15 Endymion wrote:
no point refering to peruvians as "trash players," they have to play with like 300 ping... you should learn from their tenacity instead of shitting on them?

I tried talking to them, I was either insulted in Spanish or the chat was "jajajajajaajajajajaj XDDDDDDD"
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-06 16:03:44
February 06 2016 16:03 GMT
#5
Hey, I admire your strength. Keep it up and hopefully the title will be less elusive each day! What level would you say you are on iccup? I'm currently around C/C+. I'm always looking for extra practice partners, so if you're interested, hit me up. (Zerg player, Iccup id: CrispyDrone)

Also, how did you progress your korean? Did you learn from any particular websites, or perhaps you taught yourself from textbooks?

I'm currently preoccupied with improving my French but I earnestly hope to be able to start improving my Korean in the near future.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 06 2016 17:12 GMT
#6
dat username tho
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 07 2016 00:06 GMT
#7
On February 07 2016 02:12 boxerfred wrote:
dat username tho

I used to post here under a different name but when I moved I forgot my TL username
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 07 2016 00:10 GMT
#8
On February 07 2016 01:03 B-royal wrote:
Hey, I admire your strength. Keep it up and hopefully the title will be less elusive each day! What level would you say you are on iccup? I'm currently around C/C+. I'm always looking for extra practice partners, so if you're interested, hit me up. (Zerg player, Iccup id: CrispyDrone)

Also, how did you progress your korean? Did you learn from any particular websites, or perhaps you taught yourself from textbooks?

I'm currently preoccupied with improving my French but I earnestly hope to be able to start improving my Korean in the near future.

I was definitely D- on iCCup. I'm Masters on SC2 but the skills don't carry over.

As for my Korean: https://www.youtube.com/user/BusyAtomdotcom/videos

It's a bunch of lectures but I learned sooooo much from this guy. He's great at illustrating Korean grammar in a visual manner which works great for me and sprinkles in some personality as well as why you need to know whatever he's teaching. I learned a majority of my Korean from the first six lectures then I just kinda went from there. I drop by that channel very frequently to learn new things when the translator on my second monitor doesn't help.

So basically it's a combination of that channel, Naver Translator, and talking to a lot of Koreans in all sorts of games. Worth noting that Naver Translator is only helpful if you know enough to just translate a single word. This is how a lot of Koreans learn English from the internet.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
February 07 2016 11:39 GMT
#9
Fish is really hard to start on... I'd take the Peruvians if I were you till about C rank.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 07 2016 13:03 GMT
#10
On February 07 2016 20:39 puppykiller wrote:
Fish is really hard to start on... I'd take the Peruvians if I were you till about C rank.

Even if I wanted to go through that, it's quite hard to find a game that isn't unbearably laggy. I'll even whisper to every single user in the ladder chat and the only people that will play just 4pool me or something.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
February 07 2016 20:56 GMT
#11
Are you playing ladder games on fish? If you play non-ladder 1v1's you get easier opponents that range from probably D- to C+ relative to iccup. It's a good alternative if you lag on icc
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-08 03:26:32
February 08 2016 03:26 GMT
#12
On February 08 2016 05:56 puppykiller wrote:
Are you playing ladder games on fish? If you play non-ladder 1v1's you get easier opponents that range from probably D- to C+ relative to iccup. It's a good alternative if you lag on icc

You need to maintain 30 melee wins to play on Fish ladder. I'm over 120 losses
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
February 08 2016 04:26 GMT
#13
I bet those wins you did get feel pretty good though right ;D
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 08 2016 04:45 GMT
#14
On February 08 2016 13:26 puppykiller wrote:
I bet those wins you did get feel pretty good though right ;D

Only two, and I won both of them the same way. I saw that the zerg was going straight for spire and didn't have much defense, so I rushed stim and pushed.

One of them asked for a re but he had whispers blocked so I felt kinda bad after saying yes
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 08 2016 05:20 GMT
#15
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I wasn't last, fuck yeah
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
February 08 2016 09:53 GMT
#16
where'd you download all the fish maps?
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-08 11:19:18
February 08 2016 10:10 GMT
#17
On February 08 2016 18:53 Espers wrote:
where'd you download all the fish maps?

I have over 350 maps. I'll make a topic with a download

edit: nevermind, I removed the download link and fried the post
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 09 2016 03:37 GMT
#18
I always warm up with Fastest and the first lobby had a drop hacker, yay! No wonder he was still on 3.39

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WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 12 2016 07:13 GMT
#19
I need to keep trying. I want to succeed, it's just upsetting being kicked to the ground by Koreans playing with their feet and shit
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 13 2016 06:07 GMT
#20
Adventure

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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 05:48:56
February 14 2016 05:46 GMT
#21
off topic.. but would or anyone be willing to spam 30 melee wins with me in fish?
edit: I'm up for real games as well, I'm mostly playing p nowdays.
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 14 2016 09:13 GMT
#22
On February 14 2016 14:46 Piste wrote:
off topic.. but would or anyone be willing to spam 30 melee wins with me in fish?
edit: I'm up for real games as well, I'm mostly playing p nowdays.

Win trading is bannable by the admins. If you can't get the 30 wins on your own, you're not ready to get on ladder. You need to maintain those 30 wins anyway so if you lose a single game in ladder you have to win another melee to get back in.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
February 15 2016 04:29 GMT
#23
A lot of people spam wins in the melee that know they can compete at ladder just to save time.

If you are still active in a week and want some advice on replays send me a PM. Usually I don't help people that post threads like this but you are actually trying xD.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
February 15 2016 16:19 GMT
#24
On February 14 2016 18:13 WinterViewbot420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 14:46 Piste wrote:
off topic.. but would or anyone be willing to spam 30 melee wins with me in fish?
edit: I'm up for real games as well, I'm mostly playing p nowdays.

Win trading is bannable by the admins. If you can't get the 30 wins on your own, you're not ready to get on ladder. You need to maintain those 30 wins anyway so if you lose a single game in ladder you have to win another melee to get back in.

oh ok..
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
February 16 2016 02:33 GMT
#25
yeah its bannable but nobody really cares if you do this in melee...its seen as an abuse only if you doing this at the higher levels of ladder since its unfair for others who legitimately achieved their ranks (and its plain obvious if you do so)

looking at your W-R (if thats true) i think its better if you find a couple of practice partners in iccup (or fish if u can chat up koreans) rather than play random games. playing people near or just above your skill level would be better for development. just getting trashed by much better players all day will not accomplish anything.
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 26 2016 08:44 GMT
#26
I made C on iCCup but can't get into ladder on Fish fuck my life
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