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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 14 2015 19:35 GMT
#21
On July 15 2015 02:02 upro)wraith wrote:
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On July 15 2015 00:18 BigFan wrote:
On July 14 2015 10:16 JieXian wrote:

isn't deep six an all-in? Then again, playing bio against protoss is pretty much allin-ish lol. I'll have to look into the specifics


haha well, I didn't plan on ending the game right then. Maybe I should've but I expanded behind the attack then retreated once I took down his exp. Wanted to macro up and then go in for the kill later but I didn't anticipate 2 reavers knocking on my front so soon (thought he sunk it all in his goons and eco).


you're so lost.

allin or no allin, all in or no allin

lol no, I'm not lost. I had a plan in mind during the game and wasn't planning to end it after his nexus went down unless he didn't have much defense (he had 5 goons+reaver on ramp).

On July 14 2015 10:50 Ty2 wrote:
bio is just as viable as mech in tvp I think. Massing siege tanks and going drop harass is effective. I liked the gif.

hmm I'm not sure tbh. Haven't played enough bio tvp to know. Thanks!

On July 14 2015 12:23 ninazerg wrote:
If you go bio, in TvP, you're usually going to be going for the win before they can get their reaver or templar tech. The build you did was fine. Going deep-six requires more management, but I feel like it'll win you the game against someone who goes templar tech to counter you. Sero does it quite a bit, so if you watch his stream you'll probably see it, and you can ask for replays.

yes, I know that part since I looked into bio in TvP back when I first started playing BW (kinda the reason I switched to mech when he had 2 reavers). Thing is, I don't want to end it there. I want to go up against reavers and templars and see what it's like. That and I couldn't end it here with how well guarded his ramp was. Does he? I don't see Sero stream as much these days. Maybe next time he streams, I'll watch, thanks!

On July 14 2015 17:55 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:41 Falling wrote:
Microing goons vs stim marines is pretty rough. I lost a few goons due to poor micro. I thought it was a bit of a gamble to take my one reaver to drop his main, but it worked out and I got my other reavers out in time.

Pros make it look easy. I've failed this shit a bunch of times myself.

It's why they are pros Agree with falling. Reaver worked well and microing goon is rough because most people underestimate marine speed (or aren't fast enough)


I would advise you to stay away from bio builds for now and focus on proper mech play.

The build you executed is a weak variation of 1 base bio rush. If you really want to all-in against protoss, it's better to use bio-mech strategy variation such as deep six.

However, Learning to play TvP is not about gimicky bio builds, It's about using proper mechanized builds while putting emphasize on macro, mech units control and hotkey mechanics. mech play is very APM demanding and bio is even more.

If a bio player doesn't outright kills the protoss or severely cripples him with the timing attack, the game is over most of the time.
The goal is to play a proper macro build(e.g. fact cc, fd push or rax cc) and aim for a timing attack on a 3 base to crush the protoss expansions.


Thanks for the advisement, but, I've already decided on my TvP approach after this game

I'm not interested in all-ining, otherwise, I would've just continued to one base, added more rax and went for the kill. I'm trying to look at bio in the same way I see mech, as a legit way to play TvP regardless of the phase of the game. I think that it can work with lots of planning, much better macro and some solid micro.

I also like to play aggressive, so, taking 3 bases then just aiming for a timing attack doesn't sit well with the style that I like to play (ya, I know you can be aggressive with mech like Sea has do with some of his games). Thanks for the comment!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
July 15 2015 02:38 GMT
#22
You could just switch to Z when you wanna bio and P when you wanna mech!
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 15 2015 04:54 GMT
#23
On July 15 2015 11:38 3FFA wrote:
You could just switch to Z when you wanna bio and P when you wanna mech!

hehe I've been kinda of doing that, however, I also mech in some of my TvZ games and those are quite fun but mech in TvP is dry, boring, feels too cut-throat to be entertaining to me etc... which is why I've started to play more bio regardless of the chance at an earlier death lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 15 2015 05:28 GMT
#24
bigfan enjoys banging his head on the wall for fun :D
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
July 15 2015 07:15 GMT
#25
As long as you don't suffer a brain injury....
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 15 2015 14:23 GMT
#26
On July 15 2015 14:28 JieXian wrote:
bigfan enjoys banging his head on the wall for fun :D

haha, that I do

On July 15 2015 16:15 3FFA wrote:
As long as you don't suffer a brain injury....

no worries, I'm wearing a helmet! :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
July 16 2015 03:14 GMT
#27
Wow, whole replay in gif form! Epic!
This actually makes me wanna makes some gifs out of my old games.

As far as the game, I feel like you should have brought like 3 scvs with your first push to make bunkers and just be meatshields.
Keep up the good work though. We definitely need more BW blogs
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 16 2015 05:19 GMT
#28
On July 16 2015 12:14 don_kyuhote wrote:
Wow, whole replay in gif form! Epic!
This actually makes me wanna makes some gifs out of my old games.

As far as the game, I feel like you should have brought like 3 scvs with your first push to make bunkers and just be meatshields.
Keep up the good work though. We definitely need more BW blogs

Do it! TL is really lacking when it comes to BW BRs. I'm the only one who still does them, but, the readership has dropped significantly since I started several years back.

ya, maybe I should've done it. It wasn't too bad though, still managed to take down the nexus. I just didn't react against that reaver drop and should've just stuck with bio over mech. Well, if I have more interesting games, I might BR them this way as well
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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