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cutler
Germany609 Posts
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catplanetcatplanet
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On April 24 2015 20:12 TotalBiscuit wrote: mouthbreathers from the peanut gallery saving this one for later all in all an insightful post, thanks for this | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 25 2015 01:09 EarthwormJim wrote: Wow, what a response. Every time I read anything about TB, or see anything with him in it, he's always an asshole. Even when he is in a professional setting doing his thing, he seems kind of condescending and a bit... dickish. I strongly believe you are an asshole. About a year and a half ago, I was speaking with you on another account about something sc2 related. You blew up and freaked out over nothing (typical), and I told you, you just lost a fan. Your response was oh well, one fan won't be missed. I'm glad things are finally catching up with you. You can put as much sugar on top of Axiom's viewer count as you want. Axiom is a dead team. I almost never see crank on stream but ok? That means you're dead. Just like Idra, you can be popular and good at what you do, but if you continue being a douchebag asshole, you'll get dropped. Quoting this so everyone can see how much of a complete asshole you are. Maybe, just maybe, I'm not the asshole and you are projecting. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 25 2015 01:00 Shortizz wrote: I appreciate your passion and drive. Its really impressive that you are still putting so much effort into something that i assume gives little to non financial benefits. That said, you seem to have a problem with criticisms or even the slight disagreement. Lets be honest, if one of my colleagues or manager speaks and respond like you do, this guy is getting fired. No matter how much you do or how much more you know, your behaviour is honestly, childish and douchey. Also, i am disgusted that people are still defending TB when he has crossed the line at times. ''Oh he produce content, cut him some slack.'' This is teamliquid people, not preschool sucking up to the popular kid. This doesnt mean much, but i made it a point not to watch any Axiom content long ago simple because i could not justify supporting someone like you. I find it thoroughly pathetic when I see community members make some statement about how I can't handle criticism and yet even pointing out that some random person was ignorant is seen as offensive. No see in my experience, there are members of this community who are completely incapable of handling criticism. I handle criticism on a daily basis, more than you could ever imagine. But tell someone they're wrong about an aspect of the business they obviously no nothing about? BREAK OUT THE PITCHFORKS! HOW DARE HE DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN FELLATE THE COMMUNITY, DOESN'T HE KNOW WHO PAYS HIS WAGES? Yeah I do, my audience, not these random dickheads. When I take time to make posts like this it's for your benefit, it gives you insight into an area you don't know anything about. It's to educate and to try and elevate the level of discussion. If all you're going to do when offered this is to flip out and call me names, then might I suggest you have no interest in elevating the discussion or in learning anything new. There is nothing wrong with my post, there is a lot wrong with your attitude however. | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
Good luck TB! | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
There's also no way in hell anyone is going to beat _H20 at his own game, progamer or not. That way all 6000 of the people who play Aoe3 will instantly become Axiom fans. :D | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
On April 25 2015 02:33 Incognoto wrote: You should try to get an Axiom player to beat _H20 at Age of Empires 3. It's an RTS. It's a great game. There's also no way in hell anyone is going to beat _H20 at his own game, progamer or not. That way all 6000 of the people who play Aoe3 will instantly become Axiom fans. :D thatd be a sick idea actually | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On April 24 2015 20:01 marvellosity wrote: Pretty aggressive response for a question that wasn't phrased aggressively. when was TB not aggressive? | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On April 24 2015 20:01 marvellosity wrote: Pretty aggressive response for a question that wasn't phrased aggressively. Pretty aggressive observation for a response that wasn't phrased very aggressively. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
I've seen TB post aggressive, that wasn't it. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
Also amid this sea of crap I found that Axiom is soon to be running at a profit, that's huge news perhaps you could do a write up on the trials and tribulations of being a team owner. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 25 2015 05:29 OtherWorld wrote: I'll say it again : sometimes you should take a break from the Internet and then read what you typed again. Maybe that would make you realize some things. There's nothing to realize. It's not like I didn't already know that people are ungrateful for industry insight and lash out at even the most innocent perceived slight. Some people on this forum HATE being told they don't know something, thats obvious. It's telling that Reddits response to this post was far more positive than TLs was. | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
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207aicila
1237 Posts
I respectfully disagree with this sentiment. Honestly, with Reddit and Twitter becoming so staggeringly massive over the last few years, they've created a culture of their own which has since started leaking into other communities as well. They've bred a hostile, black-and-white, us-vs-them mentality whereby people join echo-chamber-y cliques based on certain sentiments or ideas which they constantly regurgitate to each other, and should you ever dare to disagree, even slightly, with the hivemind, you'll find yourself public enemy number one, and these pathetic excuses for human beings will stop at nothing from trying to one-up you and prove their perceived superiority (moral or intellectual or otherwise.) Some of you reading might have picked up that I was hinting at bigger things going on in gaming right now. That is perhaps the most poignant example of what this can (and has) lead to if left unchecked. Couple that with how many insufferable, entitled little shits have found their way onto the internet and into gaming communities over the last half decade (whether you choose to blame this on League or Minecraft or Pewdiepie or 9gag is hardly relevant, all that matters is that they're here to stay now) and you have a recipe for disaster. The StarCraft 2 community in particular has been quite bi-polar I tend to find. One day you'll see them shitting on Blizzard for their design and balance decisions, and the next anyone who dares suggest changes to the game is just "an elitist bw fanboy who should go back to his 8bit games". Same with how they treat community figures, tournaments, teams, players, content, anything. As for TotalBiscuit and his recent posts, I think some of the people in this thread exemplify the above quite well. They're so obsessed with and fixated on the notion that TotalBiscuit is just some arrogant prick, that they refuse to stop and think, even for just one moment, why he is responding in this fashion, what the message behind the tone is, and that perhaps he might be justified in saying the things he says; they refuse to stop and think that maybe, just maybe, they're actually wrong and might deserve to be called out on it. How dare you call me out on my ignorant and petty bullshit that I have spouted, you are henceforth the enemy, and fuck you! I don't understand why the community continues to tolerate such people, who never contribute anything but are always the first to shit upon others, to stir controversy and make sure everyone has heard their ignorant opinions and pathetic comments. They're not even here for the game, they're just drama vultures (and not the kind with patrol micro) who seem to thrive off flinging their shit at others and acting smugly superior. The kind of children who spam twitch chat with their dank maymays and complain when they get banned, the kind who shit on Blizzard for any decision they make even though they themselves don't even play this bloody game, the kind who will crucify tournaments, players and casters for even the smallest faux-pas, even though they have never contributed monetarily or put in voluntary work (a la editing Liquipedia) for the betterment of this scene. Yet they are allowed to be a part of this scene, for some reason, as they painfully continue to remind us with their toxic presence every time some "drama" comes up. Consider this: maybe when you have dozens of whining, whinging, insignificant gnats scrutinizing your every move and bitching every single time you do or say something they disagree with, maybe you get tired and frustrated, maybe they need to be put in their bloody fucking place. | ||
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Walnuts
United States770 Posts
There's a way to respond to stupid questions or criticism without coming off sounding rude or aggressive. While there are a couple of people in this thread who deserved some of the spite you delivered them, it really comes off as if most people were simply being civil while you were the one being aggressive and immature, even though you accused others of doing those exact things. It says something that I expect you to take offense at that statement and rage at me, but I feel obligated to at least let you know that your vitriol has turned at least me off you, as your career depends on people liking you and what you do. I hope this helps. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On April 25 2015 06:29 Walnuts wrote: Coming from someone who doesn't follow Sc2 on reddit, who doesn't bash any casters, who actually likes the players on Axiom and who has no reason to hate on you TB: There's a way to respond to stupid questions or criticism without coming off sounding rude or aggressive. While there are a couple of people in this thread who deserved some of the spite you delivered them, it really comes off as if most people were simply being civil while you were the one being aggressive and immature, even though you accused others of doing those exact things. It says something that I expect you to take offense at that statement and rage at me, but I feel obligated to at least let you know that your vitriol has turned at least me off you, as your career depends on people liking you and what you do. I hope this helps. It does make sense that you would view things in this way if you don't actually witness the full extent of shit people throw his way; especially since you admit you don't follow the SC2 sub-reddit (and let me tell you, you're not missing out on anything but teenaged edgelords regurgitating their dank maymays). In reality, TB (and most public figures for that matter) get a lot more flak than most people realize, and it gets absolutely pathetic and disgusting sometimes. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On April 24 2015 20:50 TotalBiscuit wrote: Yeah it is. Come our next sponsor we should be turning a profit. (oh and hi Reddit, that means there's a sponsor in the works, not that we are looking for one) That's just what I was wondering. Until now, I just assumed TB was still in the red running Axiom. I'm happy to hear it's improved that much. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On April 25 2015 07:03 Ansinjunger wrote: That's just what I was wondering. Until now, I just assumed TB was still in the red running Axiom. I'm happy to hear it's improved that much. You shouldn't use the A word around TB Assume that is | ||
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