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husniack
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
203 Posts
August 23 2014 12:10 GMT
#1
I've scoured google for the rules, and haven't seen it addressed anywhere.

1. Are players allowed to have side conversations / whisperings / eye-contacts or do all communications need to be transparent to the group?

2. Are players allowed to say anything they want?

It seems very hard for the Mafia to win if #2 is true. The Sheriff on a successful guess, can just say, I'm the Sheriff, X is Mafia, Doctor/Angel, please protect me during the night."

If anyone tries to oppose this statement, like Y says, "No, I'm actually the Sheriff," it would be pretty clear if the real sheriff dies that Y is Mafia.



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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 23 2014 12:38 GMT
#2
The Sheriff claim has many scenarios.
1) The Sheriff is Mafia faking a claim.
2) The counterclaiming Sheriff is Town, trying to draw attention off the first claim
3) Two towns fake claiming
4) The Sheriff claiming is so untrustworthy that nobody believes him and leaves his claim to be confirmed by his death in the following night.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 23 2014 13:07 GMT
#3
On August 23 2014 21:10 husniack wrote:
I've scoured google for the rules, and haven't seen it addressed anywhere.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/301748-a-general-guide-to-mafia

Rule set for TL at the OP of every game so just dive into a game and see for yourself. Frustration tolerance is reccommended but not necessary, worst case you will be updating the banlist with some fresh drama
husniack
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
203 Posts
August 23 2014 13:24 GMT
#4
On August 23 2014 21:38 Kurumi wrote:
The Sheriff claim has many scenarios.
1) The Sheriff is Mafia faking a claim.
2) The counterclaiming Sheriff is Town, trying to draw attention off the first claim
3) Two towns fake claiming
4) The Sheriff claiming is so untrustworthy that nobody believes him and leaves his claim to be confirmed by his death in the following night.


2 and 3 can be avoided by the Sheriff telling the townies for no one else to fake being the sheriff. This is being played in real life, not online. It's much harder to fake something when one person seems so supremely sure.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 23 2014 13:36 GMT
#5
In most setups the sheriff actually doesn't want to check mafia, because he has no way of telling the town without outing himself as sheriff, which means the remaining scum will night kill him.

The sheriff and doctor setup is actually imbalanced in favor town for the reason you describe. No established open setups run it.
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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 24 2014 01:43 GMT
#6
On August 23 2014 21:10 husniack wrote:
I've scoured google for the rules, and haven't seen it addressed anywhere.

1. Are players allowed to have side conversations / whisperings / eye-contacts or do all communications need to be transparent to the group?

2. Are players allowed to say anything they want?

It seems very hard for the Mafia to win if #2 is true. The Sheriff on a successful guess, can just say, I'm the Sheriff, X is Mafia, Doctor/Angel, please protect me during the night."

If anyone tries to oppose this statement, like Y says, "No, I'm actually the Sheriff," it would be pretty clear if the real sheriff dies that Y is Mafia.


1) Players are allowed to have side conversations. In video mafia this is essentially impossible to do. In forum mafia the equivalent would be games that allow PMs (private messages). In a real life game it would be really hard to control it so that all communication is transparent to the group.

Side conversations are a very important aspect in real life mafia. If you're mafia it allows you a more personal interaction for getting people on your side (convincing them you're town, pushing an agenda, etc.). If you're town it allows you to interrogate someone about their alignment in a different way (e.g. there's a big difference in asking "are you mafia?" when everyone is quiet and listening to you and when it's just the two of you).

2) Yes, players can say anything they want. The only restriction might be for behavioral related issues (e.g. for most mafia games personal attacks, excessive swearing, etc. are not allowed).

As an example, there was a game once where I was vanilla town and won the game for the town by fake claiming mafia (I'm not going to reveal how I did this because I want to use it again someday). I've always believed that mafia is a game where the only limitation is your own imagination. It might seem really unbelievable that I was able to do that (everyone in the game was an experienced mafia player I assure you) but with proper planning and some outside-the-box thinking you can make anything work.


As for your example, maybe you think it's difficult to counter claim at first (and it is for everyone), but with enough practice it's certainly possible. It's not that uncommon for a mafia to fake claim a role and for a majority of players to believe him.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
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