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Top16 Foreigner Ranking, Aug 2014

Blogs > KalWarkov
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 12 2014 17:30 GMT
#1
So i once again decided to bring back my foreigner ranking. This time, it will only cover the Top 16 western foreigners (excluding china, taiwan).
I also changed the math a lot to make it more subjective, and added a little twist to it, putting them into a single elimination bracket to see how it would look.
Once again no comments on the ranking itself, thats up to you


___________________________________________



The math:

aligulac gives every player points for his wins or losses and ranks them. It is widely known and accepted to be of value.
1/3 of the ranking is based on it.

WCS points are given away at every important tournament. To many people, they are what matters in the end.
1/3 of the ranking is based on it.

My subjective ranking is still a factor.
1/3 of the ranking is based on it.

The maximum reachable points is 3000 for first place in all 3 rankings [of all the available competitors] (1000+1000+1000). rank 10 in all 3 rankings would give you 2100 points (700+700+700). The lower the ranks get, the smaller the point differences between them become.


__________________________________________



The Ranking, Polls:



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1 --- 2880 ---- ca Scarlett
aligulac: 2 | WCS: 3 | Me: 1
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Poll: the rank is...

OK (107)
 
58%

Too high (79)
 
42%

186 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK



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2 --- 2840 ---- no Snute
aligulac: 3 | WCS: 1 | Me: 3
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

OK (71)
 
46%

Too low (68)
 
44%

Too high (16)
 
10%

155 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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3 --- 2800 ---- dk Bunny
aligulac: 1 | WCS: 2 | Me: 5
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Poll: the rank is...

OK (64)
 
57%

Too high (33)
 
29%

Too low (16)
 
14%

113 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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4 --- 2720 ---- es VortiX
aligulac: 4 | WCS: 4 | Me: 2
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too high (70)
 
69%

OK (26)
 
26%

Too low (5)
 
5%

101 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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5 --- 2380 ---- mx MajOr
aligulac: 6 | WCS: 10 | Me: 4
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Poll: the rank is...

Too low (65)
 
57%

OK (34)
 
30%

Too high (16)
 
14%

115 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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6 --- 2240 ---- fi Welmu
aligulac: 15 | WCS: 5 | Me: 6
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Poll: the rank is...

Too high (44)
 
61%

OK (22)
 
31%

Too low (6)
 
8%

72 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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7 --- 2155 ---- fr Dayshi
aligulac: 9 | WCS: 11 | Me: 8
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Poll: the rank is...

OK (36)
 
59%

Too low (13)
 
21%

Too high (12)
 
20%

61 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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8 --- 2145 ---- ru Happy
aligulac: 5 | WCS: 16 | Me: 9
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too high (35)
 
64%

OK (17)
 
31%

Too low (3)
 
5%

55 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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9 --- 2135 ---- pl Nerchio
aligulac: 7 | WCS: 12 | Me: 10
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too high (47)
 
80%

OK (8)
 
14%

Too low (4)
 
7%

59 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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10 -- 2110 ---- ca HuK
aligulac: 17 | WCS: 7 | Me: 7
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too low (56)
 
58%

Too high (32)
 
33%

OK (9)
 
9%

97 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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11 -- 1970 ---- de TLO
aligulac: 21 | WCS: 6 | Me: 11
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too low (23)
 
38%

OK (21)
 
34%

Too high (17)
 
28%

61 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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12 -- 1820 ---- pl MaNa
aligulac: 29 | WCS: 8 | Me: 12
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Poll: the rank is...

OK (36)
 
72%

Too high (8)
 
16%

Too low (6)
 
12%

50 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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13 -- 1700 ---- de ShoWTimE
aligulac: 8 | WCS: 24 | Me: 21
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too high (31)
 
54%

OK (17)
 
30%

Too low (9)
 
16%

57 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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14 -- 1695 ---- us puCk
aligulac: 37 | WCS: 9 | Me: 16
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too high (24)
 
39%

OK (20)
 
32%

Too low (18)
 
29%

62 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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15 -- 1650 ---- nl Grubby
aligulac: 35 | WCS: 14 | Me: 13
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too high (40)
 
58%

OK (15)
 
22%

Too low (14)
 
20%

69 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low



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16 -- 1550 ---- de HeRoMaRinE
aligulac: 11 | WCS: 67 | Me: 22
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: the rank is...

Too high (27)
 
43%

OK (26)
 
41%

Too low (10)
 
16%

63 total votes

Your vote: the rank is...

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): OK
(Vote): Too low






How would a tournament look?




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------------- Thanks for reading! --------------
DiaBoLuS



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DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
August 12 2014 17:40 GMT
#2
HuK should be higher...he's playing extremely well lately
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
August 12 2014 17:44 GMT
#3
Nice ranking! Couple things I would slightly change but in general it's a pretty accurate list. I like how you used the three ranking criteria. Using an average of the three scores and ranking players from lowest to highest values would work, but with the rapid fluctuation of Aligulac ranking I guess giving the subjective score more value is a smart move
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 12 2014 17:47 GMT
#4
mmh, scarlett probably too high, atleast until she adjusted to the patch.
nice ranking
TL+ Member
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 12 2014 17:53 GMT
#5
I'd put Snute at 1 and Scarlett at 2, but other than that I cannot object.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 12 2014 17:59 GMT
#6
Scarlett is definitely too high, Snute and Bunny have both shown recently that they are able to compete with koreans pretty well while Scarlett hasn't.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 12 2014 18:02 GMT
#7
Bunny best foreigner <3
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
August 12 2014 18:04 GMT
#8
Americans in general have been placed too high in my opinion

Also Showtime is still heavily underrated
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 18:14:41
August 12 2014 18:12 GMT
#9
The differences from a hypothetical power ranking of mine:
- I would swap Dayshi with majOr
- Top 4 is the same as mine
- Showtime in a lower position, and I would rather put uThermal or Suppy.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 12 2014 18:17 GMT
#10
I can't really think of any recent Welmu games for some reason so he seems too high for me. I would probably push Dayshi ahead of him and also swap Scarlett and Snute. Seems like a pretty solid ranking though. Always enjoyed these.
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
August 12 2014 18:35 GMT
#11
I love how after Major, almost every player is polled as being "too high"
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 12 2014 18:50 GMT
#12
On August 13 2014 03:35 LockeTazeline wrote:
I love how after Major, almost every player is polled as being "too high"


thats standard for these rankings
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
jdenst
Profile Joined May 2012
4 Posts
August 12 2014 18:53 GMT
#13
The main change I would make is swapping Scarlett and Snute. I might also consider placing HuK a rank or 2 higher, but I'm not as sure about that.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
August 12 2014 19:20 GMT
#14
On August 13 2014 03:35 LockeTazeline wrote:
I love how after Major, almost every player is polled as being "too high"
Given the crop of foreigners we have right now, it feels wrong to see most of them ranked in the top 16 of anything.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
August 12 2014 19:27 GMT
#15
I think Neeb deserves a spot considering hes been taking games off high level koreans like Taeja Polt Revival Arthur and Check
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 12 2014 19:34 GMT
#16
The poll should read "Too damn high"
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 12 2014 19:35 GMT
#17
On August 13 2014 03:35 LockeTazeline wrote:
I love how after Major, almost every player is polled as being "too high"


Also, this. Everyone is too damn high on the list.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
August 12 2014 19:46 GMT
#18
where is harstem, Starbuck, sjaak?
Cj hero | Zest
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 19:49:19
August 12 2014 19:49 GMT
#19
Top 5 seems solid, I wouldn't be able to argue that even if I wanted to
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
August 12 2014 19:52 GMT
#20
I felt that without any explanation, the power rank felt really... bland
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