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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 09 2014 09:00 GMT
#21
On July 09 2014 09:22 icystorage wrote:
CIS will obviously win


Don't be like that man CIS didnt play like how they played in qualifier. I can only know so much, why would they stop practicing by thinking that they wont be able to make it to seattle -_-

On July 09 2014 09:02 r_con wrote:
i used to think pld was amazing, he seemed like he could do so much with almost no farm, but nowadays it just feels like he is out of position and just feeding alot of the time trying to make plays.


True that. But basically if he is having a good game = team wins, if he is not, chances is that team will likely to lose anyway (50/50 chance depends on opponent makes mistakes).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
July 10 2014 09:11 GMT
#22
On July 09 2014 18:00 BurningSera wrote:
Don't be like that man CIS didnt play like how they played in qualifier. I can only know so much, why would they stop practicing by thinking that they wont be able to make it to seattle -_-

Black^ covered it in his HotBid interview. There were 3 weeks when they split up and weren't at the teamhouse and weren't practicing. Then, when they were denied by the US Embassy, they were despondent and demotivated for about 2 more weeks. According to Black^ he's headed back to Germany for a month after TI to see how the reshuffle goes...I hope he winds up with a good team.
Avorin
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany46 Posts
July 10 2014 12:20 GMT
#23
On July 09 2014 00:29 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 23:58 Velr wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:38 BurningSera wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:32 Rocket-Bear wrote:
You seem to hate a lot of players


I love alot and i also hate some of them, it is highly dependent on their playstyle.



How could you ever hate Kuroky?


by having bracer and gg branches in his inventory without buying a single ward (maybe just at the start) 30mins into the game in TI3.

That is the most retarded thing i have ever heard. Kuroky is such a crazy good support player, probably the best player in general on NaVi with Puppey.
Now that the Pegasus is dead, may we rise from the ashes like a phoenix.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 11:35:07
July 11 2014 11:33 GMT
#24
On July 10 2014 21:20 Avorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:29 BurningSera wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:58 Velr wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:38 BurningSera wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:32 Rocket-Bear wrote:
You seem to hate a lot of players


I love alot and i also hate some of them, it is highly dependent on their playstyle.



How could you ever hate Kuroky?


by having bracer and gg branches in his inventory without buying a single ward (maybe just at the start) 30mins into the game in TI3.

That is the most retarded thing i have ever heard. Kuroky is such a crazy good support player, probably the best player in general on NaVi with Puppey.


Have you seen that how badly he played support back then TI3 early stage (badly as in how he literally forced #4 puppey enig to buy all the wards and shit, all he focused was on how to make flashy plays), dig out the LR threads and see how many people flamed the shit out of him. He has become a top class support since then (the process of fighting their way back up to grand finals really shaped him quite well and then he has been performing consistently since). Bonus point since he can use oldschool heroes very well (like lion).

People need to think and reread anything that is written by me, dont jump on immediately because you misunderstood what i said. Alternatively, stop being a retard for a moment when you read what i wrote, get it?
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 11 2014 11:34 GMT
#25
On July 10 2014 18:11 schmitty9800 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 18:00 BurningSera wrote:
Don't be like that man CIS didnt play like how they played in qualifier. I can only know so much, why would they stop practicing by thinking that they wont be able to make it to seattle -_-

Black^ covered it in his HotBid interview. There were 3 weeks when they split up and weren't at the teamhouse and weren't practicing. Then, when they were denied by the US Embassy, they were despondent and demotivated for about 2 more weeks. According to Black^ he's headed back to Germany for a month after TI to see how the reshuffle goes...I hope he winds up with a good team.


fcking disheartening to know that now -_- CIS was so impressive in qualifier (well LGD shocked me too).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
July 12 2014 22:31 GMT
#26
Please calm down, I apologize
All Dota 2 casters are bad at their job
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 22:59:13
July 12 2014 22:58 GMT
#27
hi friends i feel shit i missed every game day2+3 because i have been out since friday morning til 5mins ago. I dont have dedication or whatsoever on esport man.

But VG ended up #1 so all is good? will dota god forgive me??? Won tonnes of rares betting them against DK as well :D
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 12 2014 22:58 GMT
#28
On July 13 2014 07:31 GranDGranT wrote:
Please calm down, I apologize


omg mannered grandgrant can we make no homo friends now :D
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
July 13 2014 10:12 GMT
#29
On July 11 2014 20:33 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 21:20 Avorin wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:29 BurningSera wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:58 Velr wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:38 BurningSera wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:32 Rocket-Bear wrote:
You seem to hate a lot of players


I love alot and i also hate some of them, it is highly dependent on their playstyle.



How could you ever hate Kuroky?


by having bracer and gg branches in his inventory without buying a single ward (maybe just at the start) 30mins into the game in TI3.

That is the most retarded thing i have ever heard. Kuroky is such a crazy good support player, probably the best player in general on NaVi with Puppey.


Have you seen that how badly he played support back then TI3 early stage (badly as in how he literally forced #4 puppey enig to buy all the wards and shit, all he focused was on how to make flashy plays), dig out the LR threads and see how many people flamed the shit out of him. He has become a top class support since then (the process of fighting their way back up to grand finals really shaped him quite well and then he has been performing consistently since). Bonus point since he can use oldschool heroes very well (like lion).

People need to think and reread anything that is written by me, dont jump on immediately because you misunderstood what i said. Alternatively, stop being a retard for a moment when you read what i wrote, get it?


or you could stop assuming your stone-age dota IQ is high enough for you to understand KuroKy's play instead of writing off his itemization as selfishness
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 14 2014 13:05 GMT
#30
On July 13 2014 19:12 duckmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 20:33 BurningSera wrote:
On July 10 2014 21:20 Avorin wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:29 BurningSera wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:58 Velr wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:38 BurningSera wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:32 Rocket-Bear wrote:
You seem to hate a lot of players


I love alot and i also hate some of them, it is highly dependent on their playstyle.



How could you ever hate Kuroky?


by having bracer and gg branches in his inventory without buying a single ward (maybe just at the start) 30mins into the game in TI3.

That is the most retarded thing i have ever heard. Kuroky is such a crazy good support player, probably the best player in general on NaVi with Puppey.


Have you seen that how badly he played support back then TI3 early stage (badly as in how he literally forced #4 puppey enig to buy all the wards and shit, all he focused was on how to make flashy plays), dig out the LR threads and see how many people flamed the shit out of him. He has become a top class support since then (the process of fighting their way back up to grand finals really shaped him quite well and then he has been performing consistently since). Bonus point since he can use oldschool heroes very well (like lion).

People need to think and reread anything that is written by me, dont jump on immediately because you misunderstood what i said. Alternatively, stop being a retard for a moment when you read what i wrote, get it?


or you could stop assuming your stone-age dota IQ is high enough for you to understand KuroKy's play instead of writing off his itemization as selfishness


see, i am a fair man. Like i am extremely fair to the point that i am willing to doubt myself for a second that i might actually have stone-aged IQ (what does that even fcking mean, do you even know how IQ is measured, but whatever I assume we are on the same context here), but then the chances of you being a braindead kuroky hardcore fan is astronomically higher than the chances of me having brain problem.

Try again. Try harder.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 15 2014 04:46 GMT
#31
Certain item choices at the beginning of the game are definitely decided upon by the players in general. While it might seem like bad support play from KKY or even MMY/Lanm to not buy wards (and have Burning do so instead), it kinda looks to me like a decision made by whoever is calling the shots in-game (Puppey for Navi, and either Lanm or Burning for DK).

I recall a game where MMY was actually pinging out to Burning where to place the wards, so it's def. something DK has decided to do occasionally, and I don't think you should fault support players for being "greedy" in that case. It's just how they decided to distribute the burden at the beginning of the game, for whatever reason.
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