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Sandisk SHOUTcraft Invitational Post-mortem - Page 6

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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 06:53:33
June 12 2014 06:52 GMT
#101
TB you made an absolutely great and right decision in having NeoTV on board, they nailed it. Frankly for most tournaments I choose English casting but for whatever tournaments they are covering, sorry even Tastosis can't get me tuned in.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
June 12 2014 07:05 GMT
#102
Great job man. Hope your plans come to fruition. Also fuck yeah Frank Klepacki!
hey man just curious
Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
June 12 2014 07:25 GMT
#103
Keep making awesome Starcraft2 stuff Totalbiscuit!.
Only thing I know is that I know nothing.
Light_VIP
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia108 Posts
June 12 2014 07:31 GMT
#104
TB, have you thought about adding subtitles to the Korean VoDs for foreign fans? lol according to Olivias interview Ryung was a natural, and it would be nice to "hear" their casting styles , viewpoints on matchups etc, similar to stardust's show "Startalk".
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 08:19:26
June 12 2014 08:12 GMT
#105
Thank you so very much Totalbiscuit for not overlapping with the Homestory Cup. That was very considerate to not made us Europeans have to choose. In the end, I saw both tournaments, HSC live and Sandisk from Vod.

Getting well over 200k unique viewers per day is well deserved considering the quality which you and your team delivered.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 09:05:37
June 12 2014 08:57 GMT
#106
Great write-up. Your open honesty speaks to a lot of people. I did very much enjoy the event, I had to follow the rebroadcasts, but as long as it's not spoiled and has the live feeling, I love watching it! You are definitely right in that it is the way to go. Thanks for all this TB, really fantastic work, my compliments! <3

edit: how can I forget to mention that the games were AWESOME. That game between Bbyong and Flash on Waystation... my god.. LOVE IT
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
June 12 2014 10:07 GMT
#107
I wasn't able to catch the event live, but when I saw that Flash had played a bo7 TvT I went and looked up a lot of the VODS, and wasn't disappointed.

I enjoyed the casting and obviously the games as well. It's awesome that you provide analysis like this, and I think most of the points you listed are spot on.

I look forward to the next event.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
June 12 2014 10:40 GMT
#108
I, as an armchair analyst, approve of this post.

But seriously, good to hear things are doing great. The chinese numbers somewhat surprise me, compared to other regions, but i guess that's just how much i underestimated china.
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
June 12 2014 12:11 GMT
#109
Best online sc2 tournament in memory!

Anyone that suggests you hyped it too much or it didn't live up to the hype is both blind and an idiot.

Holy shit that was amazing, thank you so much!

Also, this post was excellent and incredibly informative and I really wish more organizations would discuss their events like this.

If everyone in esports followed your example, on basically anything you touch, we'd all be better off.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
June 12 2014 12:21 GMT
#110
"Get the best players, not the most popular ones." - Hell yeah. Thanks for making Shoutcraft watchable for skill elitists like me.

Well done TB.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 13:58:00
June 12 2014 13:52 GMT
#111
On June 12 2014 02:45 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 02:43 Zax19 wrote:
The Chinese figures look pretty great. Nice event, just please less shouting and hyping up next time – let the games speak for themselves.


Nope. I am confident in my casting ability and that my style is appealing to a wide audience and while Husky remains the most popular caster in Starcraft 2 I think it's safe to safe that the numbers are on my side. I am sorry that you cannot share my passion for the game, that is a bit sad.


Husky yells a lot more. He cannot speak without yelling and over time it's annoying (like you can't have 4Hours of Husky. But 2Hours 3hours is fine).

So your casting is fine as always. Also. Husky doesn't have british accent.

Also Thank you again for that. I just realized you have a twitch channel (i only watch vods). Going to subscribe to that too ! If i can pay for Proleague. I can pay for your stream.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
June 12 2014 14:26 GMT
#112
On June 12 2014 09:31 TotalBiscuit wrote:


I remember the last time someone tried to do payperview, they got hated horribly for it. I doubt I'd take that risk.



I think the suggestion is for an optional Crowdfunding like the Compendium in DOTA 2. Not sure what could be offered. People who donate have a chance to win a free TB casting of your replay? Sponsors do a giveaway of their product?

Keep everything the same but let fans raise the prizepool beforehand and during the tournament.
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
June 12 2014 15:05 GMT
#113
This tournament was absolutely amazing. Thanks TB!
As a European it ran at weird times and I still watched big parts of it, simply because the games and the casting were both so good.

I also want to say that the rebroadcast in the morning was an excellent surprise. More of that, please. :D

I'm glad it went well for you and I hope that you'll do another one soon.
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 12 2014 15:34 GMT
#114
On June 12 2014 16:31 Light_VIP wrote:
TB, have you thought about adding subtitles to the Korean VoDs for foreign fans? lol according to Olivias interview Ryung was a natural, and it would be nice to "hear" their casting styles , viewpoints on matchups etc, similar to stardust's show "Startalk".


Perhaps a highlight reel? Subtitled VoDs takes a VERY long time.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
FaiFai
Profile Joined June 2014
Peru53 Posts
June 12 2014 15:42 GMT
#115
Its a little funny and dissapointed that maybe the best tournament of the year and the best games so far come from an online tournament, and not from the mega over productions live tournaments XD (and im not saying that TB made an easy production), but anyway lets go TB, make more tournaments like this, was very refreshing.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 12 2014 16:20 GMT
#116
On June 13 2014 00:42 FaiFai wrote:
Its a little funny and dissapointed that maybe the best tournament of the year and the best games so far come from an online tournament, and not from the mega over productions live tournaments XD (and im not saying that TB made an easy production), but anyway lets go TB, make more tournaments like this, was very refreshing.


Online tournaments are the way to go for sustainability I feel. DOTA does lots of them and does well for itself. If we found otherwise to subsidize them, like a sort of compendium system or in-game tickets that would be incredible, but right now we are very much hamstrung in that respect.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 12 2014 16:39 GMT
#117
This was easily the best Shoutcraft to date and arguably the highest quality online tournament ever in Sc2. If it's possible to get more Kespa players next edition, do it. There really is no substitute for having great games, and that comes with great players.

A little sad about how Shoutcraft America turned out, but I fully understand and support the position on it, it's just not a tenable avenue of investment.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 12 2014 17:06 GMT
#118
It's cool to get all the numbers after a tournament like this. Helps everyone be a bit more educated on what's happening behind the scenes. As a HerO fan, I have to sadly agree with you analysis post mortem, as he's been out of shape for awhile although I assumed he would look better than he did. Still, the fact that you got some of the top Kespa players to play in this is exciting and I am looking forward to possibly seeing that again.

Anyways anything from Sandisk on what they thought of the tournament? Also to get Kespa players to participate do you go directly to them or do you generally go through their team?
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
June 12 2014 19:11 GMT
#119
On June 12 2014 23:26 Sufinsil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 09:31 TotalBiscuit wrote:


I remember the last time someone tried to do payperview, they got hated horribly for it. I doubt I'd take that risk.



I think the suggestion is for an optional Crowdfunding like the Compendium in DOTA 2. Not sure what could be offered. People who donate have a chance to win a free TB casting of your replay? Sponsors do a giveaway of their product?

Keep everything the same but let fans raise the prizepool beforehand and during the tournament.


This. Again, I have no clue how well it would work as I'm no expert, haven't done "market research" etc.

One example would be to get big name players on board pending the size of the prize pool. So if 5k is raised, Life agrees to do the tournament, up to 20k where Flash signs on etc etc. Or have people "donate" to a list of players, and the top 8 most donated to players get in (the money "donated" goes to the prize pool) while the rest of the money adds to the prize pool. Obviously the players on the initial list would have to agree to do it beforehand.
why?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
June 12 2014 19:30 GMT
#120
Good tournament. Thanks to TotalBiscuit. And a thank you to Sandisk.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
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