EPTThis summer I plan to get into some form of fighting technique, is there any advice you would give to a total beginner?
Also I know this is lazy of me to ask since I could look up the conversion but what do you weigh in pounds?
My first MMA match - Page 9
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
This summer I plan to get into some form of fighting technique, is there any advice you would give to a total beginner? Also I know this is lazy of me to ask since I could look up the conversion but what do you weigh in pounds? | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On April 27 2014 12:00 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Yeah I spent the rest of the day feeling completely amazing haha Before the fight, I had a jammed up finger and a bit of a bruised rib... After the fight? Took me like 10 hours before I even felt like I had any bruises. Adrenaline is crazy. LOL reminded me of Jon Jones when he broke his toe and didn't even realize it until the fight was over. --- Damn Jinro is a boss! Starcraft tourneys and now MMA matches!  I did Muay Thai mainly when I was in Korea, but no matches.  I did BJJ for a bit, but mainly Muay Thai. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 06 2014 11:15 Aveng3r wrote: LOL at the tragic death of sc2 and day9 This summer I plan to get into some form of fighting technique, is there any advice you would give to a total beginner? Also I know this is lazy of me to ask since I could look up the conversion but what do you weigh in pounds? If you end up with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu: RELAX. That's the #1 thing beginners don't do, they panic or go full force and then you feel like puking after 2 minutes. Just relax  In the beginning you are going to get tapped out nonstop even if you use 100% of your strength anyway, so just relax.If some kind of striking: don't look away from your opponent. Almost everyone starts off ducking by tilting their head down... = no balance. And most of all just go do it, the biggest barrier to entry is mental. Oh and I probably weighed in around 168-170. My normal walk around weight is maybe 170 to 175 in the past 6 months... I used to be more like 185 about a year ago tho, but much less in shape. On May 06 2014 10:24 WarSame wrote: 180cm = ~ 71 inches = 5'11" 185 cm = ~ 73 inches That's a pretty large reach(although average for a UFC fighter of this height supposedly) and slightly above average height. The other dude is much less lanky. Look at this picture, particularly how far down their sides their elbows are. Some of it is due to posture, but Jinro is just much lankier. Yeah I checked my numbers compared to the fightnomics stats and was surprised my reach is only about average for welterweights. Tbh I dont know if I buy that, reach and height numbers seem to be pretty inaccurately reported a lot of the time hehe. But it does make sense that fighters would be above average reach to start with, compared to the rest of the population. Also, I dont have very wide shoulders, so more of my reach is pure arm length vs if someone has a massive torso their reach isn't that great since a lot of it is just their wide shoulders, which isn't useful for actually, you know, reaching. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On the other end of the spectrum, hispanic and blacks are the opposite and tend to have very long limbs, (e.g sonny liston 184 cm height 213 cm reach, but he was an extreme case, muhammad ali 191 height 203 reach) this might be a factor for why they tend to dominate boxing. (probably mostly cultural/economic factors though) You are somewhat in the middle of that but i wouldn't be surprised if you think you are relatively lankier having a lot to do with hanging around shorter/less lanky people and also losing a lot of weight. its not surprisingly to see the ufc average has higher reach to height ratio. Having longer arms and broader shoulders is probably great for both striking and wrestling. | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
You're probably right about fighters being above average reach. Fighting probably naturally selects for those with longer reach. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
On April 27 2014 11:15 Physician wrote: What is it about Starcraft that attracts people, the likes of Jinro, so far outside the usual mold most humans are made of? I was floored with surprise watching this.. Same here. I know it was on his list of things he wanted to do as he stated, it is still mind boggling to casually go from playing a computer game to doing something on the opposite spectrum of physicality. Anyways, I hope he succeeds in whatever he wants to do. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 07 2014 05:23 Slayer91 wrote: from what i read, asian people tend to have relatively shorter limbs and stockier build. They evolved to survive cold climate so having a small surface area to volume ratio saves heat. On the other end of the spectrum, hispanic and blacks are the opposite and tend to have very long limbs, (e.g sonny liston 184 cm height 213 cm reach, but he was an extreme case, muhammad ali 191 height 203 reach) this might be a factor for why they tend to dominate boxing. (probably mostly cultural/economic factors though) You are somewhat in the middle of that but i wouldn't be surprised if you think you are relatively lankier having a lot to do with hanging around shorter/less lanky people and also losing a lot of weight. its not surprisingly to see the ufc average has higher reach to height ratio. Having longer arms and broader shoulders is probably great for both striking and wrestling. Yeah for sure some of it is that Koreans are way more proportional (medium length legs, torso, arms). But I've been told I have 'monkey arms' by non koreans too haha On May 07 2014 05:27 WarSame wrote: Jinro, when you started was it with BJJ? If so, just how bad were you at it? I tried it out at my university last year but had a complete lack of understanding of even the basics. Combining that with some opponents grinding faces when rolling I stopped, but might start again. Were you ever that bad, or did you have some sort of natural inclination for it? You're probably right about fighters being above average reach. Fighting probably naturally selects for those with longer reach. I just watched some basic instructionals (because like most swedish people I'm obsessed with knowing how to do everything before I actually even try it :d), but it didn't do all that much for me I think. I have SOME natural inclination towards grappling, like it suits my mentality, but nothing special. Basically everyone is going to feel like they have no idea what they are doing in the beginning, even if they spent hours preparing or had the sickest natural talent. | ||
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Penguinator
United States837 Posts
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ClassicMilds
India39 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
The frozen arbiter lives on | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 08 2014 01:54 Penguinator wrote: This makes me think of Josh Waitzkin. He was a chess prodigy as a child, winning his first national chess championship at 9 year old. After losing his passion for chess, he went on to become a world champion in Tai Chi! Waitzkin is also a BJJ black belt, and is part of running Marcelo Garcia's site https://www.mginaction.com/default.aspx He has a really awesome life story, although didn't like his book that much. Not because it wasn't interesting but because I felt like it was sold as 'The Art of Learning', but was really just a bunch of stories from his life. | ||
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thezanursic
5488 Posts
On May 06 2014 20:43 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Yeah I checked my numbers compared to the fightnomics stats and was surprised my reach is only about average for welterweights. Tbh I dont know if I buy that, reach and height numbers seem to be pretty inaccurately reported a lot of the time hehe. But it does make sense that fighters would be above average reach to start with, compared to the rest of the population. Also, I dont have very wide shoulders, so more of my reach is pure arm length vs if someone has a massive torso their reach isn't that great since a lot of it is just their wide shoulders, which isn't useful for actually, you know, reaching. Could somebody please explain the meaning of "reach" in this context to me, thanks! | ||
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Excludos
Norway8109 Posts
On May 08 2014 23:00 thezanursic wrote: Could somebody please explain the meaning of "reach" in this context to me, thanks! Its literally how far you can reach with your hands. Fighters with longer hands can "reach" further. Its a good thing to have longer reach as if both fighters did the exact same jab/punch, one would hit and the other wouldn't. | ||
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Flaccid
8841 Posts
On May 08 2014 23:00 thezanursic wrote: Could somebody please explain the meaning of "reach" in this context to me, thanks! Statistically measurable quotient of manliness. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/LastRomantic/Reach/001.jpg) | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 08 2014 23:00 thezanursic wrote: Could somebody please explain the meaning of "reach" in this context to me, thanks! Basically it's your wingspan. So you measure the distance between your fingers, with arms outstretched to your sides. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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Scorcher2k
United States802 Posts
Good luck with your next match and sorry my post is so jumbled. Late night posts FTL. | ||
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havok55
United States276 Posts
On April 27 2014 10:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote: - One of my team mates (the guy just above me in the pic below) is a beast. He looks like he's asleep in there then BOOM cracking thunder, boom submission. So relaxed haha. No need to point him out, we can clearly guess lol. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 10 2014 15:20 Scorcher2k wrote: Don't feel bad at all about being so tense for your first match. I'm sure your coaches expected it to happen. I know you already noticed but I wanted to say that I think part of why your hand drops when you punch seems to be due to bad technique when you punch. Whenever you are training or hitting a bag always try to keep it in the back of your head that when you throw one hand the other one is to keep the guy from hitting you. Also, I don't think you need more muscle to generate more power in your punches, just practice technique. If you happen to get into a similar situation again where you are down and can't up kick, perhaps just ready yourself to attack from guard. I don't know how big Koreans are on wrestling but I would recommend finding a wrestling club or perhaps someone at your mma gym to roll with a bit. It will give you one of the best work outs you can possibly get and you'll learn a lot more about grappling and even foot work. Good luck with your next match and sorry my post is so jumbled. Late night posts FTL. We train wrestling at a minimum twice a week, and they have some very good wrestlers training there at times (for a while one of the best lighter weight wrestlers in korea was training there regularly, he was a god damn monster, so fun to watch him move and so strong. .. he lost his first amateur mma match because he got a dq for slamming someone I think... but from what I heard it was a really nitty enforcement of that rule since the guy was barely off the ground). I want more muscle because my goal is to be welterweight sized (with a day before weigh in), and I want more explosion in my legs and more strength when clinching. | ||
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