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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 28 2013 06:08 GMT
#21
On December 28 2013 09:09 Zealously wrote:
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On December 28 2013 09:06 Yonnua wrote:
On December 28 2013 08:07 Zealously wrote:
On a final note, there are a few players who have a history of never performing in Proleague. The worst of the lot is Roro. Not even being fielded, you can count on him losing every match should he eventually be played. He'll be a great pick for any anti-team.


Woah, Roro got the award for best Zerg in 2013, surely that wouldn't have happened if he wasn't a top tier player?


Roro

best Zerg

haha

The awards don't lie. Maru forever <3
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 28 2013 06:54 GMT
#22
On December 28 2013 08:07 Zealously wrote:
On a final note, there are a few players who have a history of never performing in Proleague. The worst of the lot is Roro. Not even being fielded, you can count on him losing every match should he eventually be played. He'll be a great pick for any anti-team.


Either you're metagaming, trying to make people put RorO on their antis, either you just showed you know absolutely nothing about FPL.
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 09:38:59
December 28 2013 09:38 GMT
#23
HOLY SHIT, Recommending RorO as destroyer of Anti-Teams for consideration in your main.

Rated 5 stars for that.

On December 28 2013 15:54 endy wrote:
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On December 28 2013 08:07 Zealously wrote:
On a final note, there are a few players who have a history of never performing in Proleague. The worst of the lot is Roro. Not even being fielded, you can count on him losing every match should he eventually be played. He'll be a great pick for any anti-team.


Either you're metagaming, trying to make people put RorO on their antis, either you just showed you know absolutely nothing about FPL.


Edit

Definitely the first 2, he knows his FPL IMHO.
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Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
December 28 2013 13:24 GMT
#24
Ljas's Prime Time with HerO is obviously a joke team, you're taking it too seriously.

But Holy Shit jinorazi's 맨탈붕괘 has double Shine on the antiteam. Bisu would be proud.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 18:31:07
December 28 2013 18:27 GMT
#25
On December 28 2013 08:41 Harem wrote:
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On December 28 2013 08:07 Zealously wrote:
On a final note, there are a few players who have a history of never performing in Proleague. The worst of the lot is Roro. Not even being fielded, you can count on him losing every match should he eventually be played. He'll be a great pick for any anti-team.

Famous last words said by so many fallen souls. T_T


AHAHAH I laughed my ass off at this comment xD Generations of people repeating the same mistake.. Such sweet irony, you must have been deeply hurt by roro as we all have been, picking, trusting, distrusting, bitterly crying... ;-)
This time he's on my main (so he'll do jack shit, of course.)
edit : talking to zealously, not harem !
NoiR
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 28 2013 20:19 GMT
#26
On December 28 2013 10:16 Fusilero wrote:
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On December 28 2013 09:09 Zealously wrote:
On December 28 2013 09:06 Yonnua wrote:
On December 28 2013 08:07 Zealously wrote:
On a final note, there are a few players who have a history of never performing in Proleague. The worst of the lot is Roro. Not even being fielded, you can count on him losing every match should he eventually be played. He'll be a great pick for any anti-team.


Woah, Roro got the award for best Zerg in 2013, surely that wouldn't have happened if he wasn't a top tier player?


Roro

best Zerg

haha

Amount of best zerg awards life got in 2013: 0
Amount of best zerg awards roro got in 2013: 1

THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE.
Btw creator is going to roro the fuck out of this FPL, I see so many anti-teams with him even though
1. He's still pretty good at PvP in PvProleague
2. He will be fielded every prime match without a doubt.
Creator gon be eatin on some FPL fams next year

I don't know Kev...
Creator has got a total of amazing 7 official games played since July. Maybe he is in good shape, maybe not, we just don't know I guess. I've always found him to be one of the most overrated Protosses, so maybe it's just my bias speaking.
Even if he is really as bad as I think, he is still not the best choice for an anti team though because he will play all the time and might pick up a lucky win or two.
Get off my lawn, young punks
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
December 28 2013 20:25 GMT
#27
Pleasantly surprised to read this and find that my picks of Sora, Solar, and Squirtle were recommended, as was the decision not to pick soO (even though he won me many points over last PL), spread out my players over many teams, and putting Mvp on my anti. Though I am a little nervous about my Jila pick now....thinking about replacing him with Classic. Although, I do like having at least a little gamble in FPL, and Jila is pretty much guaranteed to play every week.

Last thing though, would people recommend having at least one definite ace player on their team? My most expensive player is Zest, but I'd be a little surprised to see him in an ace match, unless Flash has really atrophied (although Zest does have a ridiculous vP). The problem is that it's a little hard to pick good ace players. SKT and Jinair have 2 players "competing" for the ace slot, I have no idea who Samsung, MVP, and IM will field, and Prime will probably consistently field Creator but I don't know how good he is anymore. Seems like only CJ (herO probably) and maybe KT have definite aces.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 28 2013 21:56 GMT
#28
I anti'd Roro knowing full well what happened in the past

come at me
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 23:02:30
December 28 2013 23:01 GMT
#29
I laughed at the roro comment. Love you.

edit: or are you serious? O.o
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 23:08:43
December 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#30
I was inspired by this. I havn't played in a long while now, always going for iron man award. When those are done. I don't even know what teams these players are on.

LAST PLACE

Main Team
3 (T)Bbyong
3 (T)Fantasy
4 (P)HerO
4 (Z)soO
5 (P)Super
6 (P)Zest (captain)
5 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]CJ Entus[/tlpd]

Anti Team
3 (T)Bravo(sin)
8 (T)Flash
2 (P)Swagger
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 23:18:17
December 28 2013 23:12 GMT
#31
I may or may not have been serious with the final comment

In fact, take anything in the original post seriously at your own peril. I snuck in a few statements better suited for opposite day.

On December 29 2013 05:25 jubil wrote:
Pleasantly surprised to read this and find that my picks of Sora, Solar, and Squirtle were recommended, as was the decision not to pick soO (even though he won me many points over last PL), spread out my players over many teams, and putting Mvp on my anti. Though I am a little nervous about my Jila pick now....thinking about replacing him with Classic. Although, I do like having at least a little gamble in FPL, and Jila is pretty much guaranteed to play every week.

Last thing though, would people recommend having at least one definite ace player on their team? My most expensive player is Zest, but I'd be a little surprised to see him in an ace match, unless Flash has really atrophied (although Zest does have a ridiculous vP). The problem is that it's a little hard to pick good ace players. SKT and Jinair have 2 players "competing" for the ace slot, I have no idea who Samsung, MVP, and IM will field, and Prime will probably consistently field Creator but I don't know how good he is anymore. Seems like only CJ (herO probably) and maybe KT have definite aces.


Personally, I'd only go for a player worth 7+ points if I know for sure that they'll be fielded every match and play most if not all ace matches (essentially Flash). Paying the 8 points for SK or Parting will net you a lot of points for their wins and the bonus points from SKT's wins, but since there are 3 or 4 players that could all potentially be fielded on any given day I'd feel more confident picking a more even line-up with two 6-pointers instead of one 8-pointer and one 4-pointer. If your expensive player pick backfires, you're in trouble if you got an 8-pointer, whereas the situation can be salvaged to a greater degree if you went for Hydra instead of SK, for example.

As for aces: for Samsung, you can probably expect one of Solar or Stork to come out as ace (since they're apparently not playing Roro or Reality). Guessing the ace for MVP and IM is more difficult, but I'm leaning towards HerO given his previous experience in Proleague and the fact that he's pretty comparable to any of the other Protosses on the line-up most of the time. If not him, then probably Trap.
MVP, I really have no idea. Leaning towards Dream as he is the only player (besides Shine but I don't know wtf is up with that) being fielded both matches, but I think it'll come down a lot to what form they show on the day they play. Super, Keen and DRG are possible aces as well depending on their form, but Super hasn't played at all recently, Keen looked kind of mediocre in the IEM Sao Paulo qualifiers and DRG is a mixed bag as always, I think Dream is the pick I'd go with for MVP's ace.
CJ will probably field herO as the ace initially, but Sora, Bbyong and Hydra (maybe even Effort eventually?) are all good enough to possibly fill in for him at any point. KT will go with Flash because that's what they do.

Edit: as an example, here is a top 5 team from last season. None of the players on the main team were 8/9-pointers, MisterAA instead opting for a more balanced team of, if I remember correctly, players valued mostly around 5/6. Each player was likely to be fielded most if not all matches, but he didn't bank on a hilariously expensive player like Flash or Innovation raking in ace match points on top of normal victories.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 29 2013 17:09 GMT
#32
RorO not appearing in week 1 (for whatever reason) doesnt change the fact that hes still the best KHAN player.

I mean, why bother arguing that Stork or Solar would assume the ace while the first player is still terribad and the latter is no better than being somewhat potential?

So yeah, putting the team ace on anti is rather stupid unless you deeply hate the player/team and/or hes simply that bad

On the last point, if I know one thing from observing/playing FPL, you most likely need a super strong clutch heavy scorer (read:expansive) to actually break to the top and win the whole thing. Case like ByuL today is pretty rare as the opponent is weak.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
December 29 2013 19:58 GMT
#33
(Z)RorO on over 500 anti teams.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
December 29 2013 20:42 GMT
#34
Points counting was wrong. According to r1ch if you were in the lineup already, you get 0 from being selected as an ace. But -2 if you lose -.-
All strategies of picking potential ace candidates even from weaker teams are now .. Questionaboe at best... (I.e mine.)
Example : creator, 1 win regular 1 loss in ace match : total : 1pt. T_T
NoiR
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 31 2013 14:41 GMT
#35
On December 28 2013 15:54 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 08:07 Zealously wrote:
On a final note, there are a few players who have a history of never performing in Proleague. The worst of the lot is Roro. Not even being fielded, you can count on him losing every match should he eventually be played. He'll be a great pick for any anti-team.


Either you're metagaming, trying to make people put RorO on their antis, either you just showed you know absolutely nothing about FPL.

Why pick RorO when you can have Hydra, or Shine or Effort to fail even more ?!

PS : No WJS group, shellshock, I'm questionning your loyalty to the Stars ...
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 27 2014 10:29 GMT
#36
On December 28 2013 10:00 Release wrote:
Never put Roro on your anti. Ever



Roro is actually the best Anti-Anti-Team player I've ever heard of. He's not famous for a point boost, but famous for fantasy team destruction. Do not pick him, ever. Neither anti nor normal.
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