I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context. The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity. He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context. The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity. He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
It's a good thing you aim to stop people from using the word rather than putting in any effort to fix any of those problems. Good on you.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context. The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity. He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
It's a good thing you aim to stop people from using the word rather than putting in any effort to fix any of those problems. Good on you.
Yep yep. Easy way to get the moral high ground effortlessly.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context.
What negative context? Also, why assume it's a 'he'? Now that is something that not offends, but indeed slightly annoys me.
My opponent was simply remarking upon the scout time of my probe and was a jolly friendly opponent I might add.
The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity.
No, it doesn't, maybe it did 60 years back but the meaning of the word 'nigger' has completely changed at this point. Nigger is just no longer an insult depending on context. Neither is 'fag' or 'bitch'.
Sometimes, yes, these words are used as insults, sometimes they are not. And reading contextually something you seem thoroughly incapable of, allows you to infer if it's meant as an insult or not. I remember a girl who referred to her boyfriend as 'my bitch' once and in no way was that implied as an insult. Her phone just rang and she said 'one moment, my bitch calling.'
He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence
No, he or she didn't, he or she was simply remarking upon the time my scouting probe arrived and after that a friendly conversation followed during and after the game regarding the merits of early probe scouting.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
Now imagine being a young brown child who can read context and can realize that the same word can be used as an insult, or not, depending on the context in which it stands. Which is the case with so many words. Take the word 'dick', pop quiz, see if you can read context, here are some made up quotes.
"Obama is the biggest dick ever, he promised so much and didn't follow up with any of it, he's almost a second Bush!"
"You're such a dick you know that, ahaha." - your SO after you come home from being in the cold, sneak up on him or her and put your ice cold fingers into his or her neck
"Holy fucking dick, that graphics card has some mad specs."
"That was such a dick move by Artosis, first asking money for esportsu and then not giving his customers anything, big scam."
Now, go ahead, see if you can filter out the cases where "dick" is used as an insult and the cases where it isn't.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context. The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity. He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
It's a good thing you aim to stop people from using the word rather than putting in any effort to fix any of those problems. Good on you.
The use of the word is a problem over and on top of the other problems. Language matters.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context.
What negative context? Also, why assume it's a 'he'? Now that is something that not offends, but indeed slightly annoys me.
My opponent was simply remarking upon the scout time of my probe and was a jolly friendly opponent I might add.
The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity.
No, it doesn't, maybe it did 60 years back but the meaning of the word 'nigger' has completely changed at this point. Nigger is just no longer an insult depending on context. Neither is 'fag' or 'bitch'.
Sometimes, yes, these words are used as insults, sometimes they are not. And reading contextually something you seem thoroughly incapable of, allows you to infer if it's meant as an insult or not. I remember a girl who referred to her boyfriend as 'my bitch' once and in no way was that implied as an insult. Her phone just rang and she said 'one moment, my bitch calling.'
He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence
No, he or she didn't, he or she was simply remarking upon the time my scouting probe arrived and after that a friendly conversation followed during and after the game regarding the merits of early probe scouting.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
Now imagine being a young brown child who can read context and can realize that the same word can be used as an insult, or not, depending on the context in which it stands. Which is the case with so many words. Take the word 'dick', pop quiz, see if you can read context, here are some made up quotes.
"Obama is the biggest dick ever, he promised so much and didn't follow up with any of it, he's almost a second Bush!"
"You're such a dick you know that, ahaha." - your SO after you come home from being in the cold, sneak up on him or her and put your ice cold fingers into his or her neck
"Holy fucking dick, that graphics card has some mad specs."
"That was such a dick move by Artosis, first asking money for esportsu and then not giving his customers anything, big scam."
Now, go ahead, see if you can filter out the cases where "dick" is used as an insult and the cases where it isn't.
Dick is not the same. You don't get to decide when a word that functioned as an instrument of oppression has lost its oppressive functionality.
Pop quiz. Try and do the same thing except instead of a lame word like "dick" actually use the word n*****. Except do it at a public bar with brown people. Oh that's right, you wouldn't.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context.
What negative context? Also, why assume it's a 'he'? Now that is something that not offends, but indeed slightly annoys me.
My opponent was simply remarking upon the scout time of my probe and was a jolly friendly opponent I might add.
The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity.
No, it doesn't, maybe it did 60 years back but the meaning of the word 'nigger' has completely changed at this point. Nigger is just no longer an insult depending on context. Neither is 'fag' or 'bitch'.
Sometimes, yes, these words are used as insults, sometimes they are not. And reading contextually something you seem thoroughly incapable of, allows you to infer if it's meant as an insult or not. I remember a girl who referred to her boyfriend as 'my bitch' once and in no way was that implied as an insult. Her phone just rang and she said 'one moment, my bitch calling.'
He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence
No, he or she didn't, he or she was simply remarking upon the time my scouting probe arrived and after that a friendly conversation followed during and after the game regarding the merits of early probe scouting.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
Now imagine being a young brown child who can read context and can realize that the same word can be used as an insult, or not, depending on the context in which it stands. Which is the case with so many words. Take the word 'dick', pop quiz, see if you can read context, here are some made up quotes.
"Obama is the biggest dick ever, he promised so much and didn't follow up with any of it, he's almost a second Bush!"
"You're such a dick you know that, ahaha." - your SO after you come home from being in the cold, sneak up on him or her and put your ice cold fingers into his or her neck
"Holy fucking dick, that graphics card has some mad specs."
"That was such a dick move by Artosis, first asking money for esportsu and then not giving his customers anything, big scam."
Now, go ahead, see if you can filter out the cases where "dick" is used as an insult and the cases where it isn't.
Dick is not the same. You don't get to decide when a word that functioned as an instrument of oppression has lost its oppressive functionality.
You don't get to decide that, you get to do that. I can say the word nigger here and it's not an instrument of oppression in the context of this sentence.
Pop quiz. Try and do the same thing except instead of a lame word like "dick" actually use the word n*****. Except do it at a public bar with brown people. Oh that's right, you wouldn't.
You keep saying that dumb bullshit, but if you're capable of thought you'll also understand that certain things offend certain people. Dead baby jokes are largely fine, but if a guy just lost his kid, maybe I'd get decked in the face. Certain people are not open to certain types of humor depending on their circumstances. It doesn't mean that we can't talk about those things, it just means that it's important to be considerate.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context.
What negative context? Also, why assume it's a 'he'? Now that is something that not offends, but indeed slightly annoys me.
My opponent was simply remarking upon the scout time of my probe and was a jolly friendly opponent I might add.
The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity.
No, it doesn't, maybe it did 60 years back but the meaning of the word 'nigger' has completely changed at this point. Nigger is just no longer an insult depending on context. Neither is 'fag' or 'bitch'.
Sometimes, yes, these words are used as insults, sometimes they are not. And reading contextually something you seem thoroughly incapable of, allows you to infer if it's meant as an insult or not. I remember a girl who referred to her boyfriend as 'my bitch' once and in no way was that implied as an insult. Her phone just rang and she said 'one moment, my bitch calling.'
He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence
No, he or she didn't, he or she was simply remarking upon the time my scouting probe arrived and after that a friendly conversation followed during and after the game regarding the merits of early probe scouting.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
Now imagine being a young brown child who can read context and can realize that the same word can be used as an insult, or not, depending on the context in which it stands. Which is the case with so many words. Take the word 'dick', pop quiz, see if you can read context, here are some made up quotes.
"Obama is the biggest dick ever, he promised so much and didn't follow up with any of it, he's almost a second Bush!"
"You're such a dick you know that, ahaha." - your SO after you come home from being in the cold, sneak up on him or her and put your ice cold fingers into his or her neck
"Holy fucking dick, that graphics card has some mad specs."
"That was such a dick move by Artosis, first asking money for esportsu and then not giving his customers anything, big scam."
Now, go ahead, see if you can filter out the cases where "dick" is used as an insult and the cases where it isn't.
Dick is not the same. You don't get to decide when a word that functioned as an instrument of oppression has lost its oppressive functionality.
You don't get to decide that, you get to do that. I can say the word nigger here and it's not an instrument of oppression in the context of this sentence.
Pop quiz. Try and do the same thing except instead of a lame word like "dick" actually use the word n*****. Except do it at a public bar with brown people. Oh that's right, you wouldn't.
You keep saying that dumb bullshit, but if you're capable of thought you'll also understand that certain things offend certain people. Dead baby jokes are largely fine, but if a guy just lost his kid, maybe I'd get decked in the face. Certain people are not open to certain types of humor depending on their circumstances. It doesn't mean that we can't talk about those things, it just means that it's important to be considerate.
It's unlikely you would get decked by anyone for telling dead baby jokes. This isn't about anything so trivial as "taking offense," but your conflation of the two is telling.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context.
What negative context? Also, why assume it's a 'he'? Now that is something that not offends, but indeed slightly annoys me.
My opponent was simply remarking upon the scout time of my probe and was a jolly friendly opponent I might add.
The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity.
No, it doesn't, maybe it did 60 years back but the meaning of the word 'nigger' has completely changed at this point. Nigger is just no longer an insult depending on context. Neither is 'fag' or 'bitch'.
Sometimes, yes, these words are used as insults, sometimes they are not. And reading contextually something you seem thoroughly incapable of, allows you to infer if it's meant as an insult or not. I remember a girl who referred to her boyfriend as 'my bitch' once and in no way was that implied as an insult. Her phone just rang and she said 'one moment, my bitch calling.'
He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence
No, he or she didn't, he or she was simply remarking upon the time my scouting probe arrived and after that a friendly conversation followed during and after the game regarding the merits of early probe scouting.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
Now imagine being a young brown child who can read context and can realize that the same word can be used as an insult, or not, depending on the context in which it stands. Which is the case with so many words. Take the word 'dick', pop quiz, see if you can read context, here are some made up quotes.
"Obama is the biggest dick ever, he promised so much and didn't follow up with any of it, he's almost a second Bush!"
"You're such a dick you know that, ahaha." - your SO after you come home from being in the cold, sneak up on him or her and put your ice cold fingers into his or her neck
"Holy fucking dick, that graphics card has some mad specs."
"That was such a dick move by Artosis, first asking money for esportsu and then not giving his customers anything, big scam."
Now, go ahead, see if you can filter out the cases where "dick" is used as an insult and the cases where it isn't.
Dick is not the same. You don't get to decide when a word that functioned as an instrument of oppression has lost its oppressive functionality.
Pop quiz. Try and do the same thing except instead of a lame word like "dick" actually use the word n*****. Except do it at a public bar with brown people. Oh that's right, you wouldn't.
Yeah, you're the one who is being offended in situations where:
A: No offense was meant by the person you are offended by, no ill will towards you or anyone was present. B: Other people are not offended.
Seems like the problem is you to me.
If you're perceiving people as racist who have no such ideals whatsoever and other people are perfectly capable of figuring that out, then you need to work on your racism radar.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context.
What negative context? Also, why assume it's a 'he'? Now that is something that not offends, but indeed slightly annoys me.
My opponent was simply remarking upon the scout time of my probe and was a jolly friendly opponent I might add.
The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity.
No, it doesn't, maybe it did 60 years back but the meaning of the word 'nigger' has completely changed at this point. Nigger is just no longer an insult depending on context. Neither is 'fag' or 'bitch'.
Sometimes, yes, these words are used as insults, sometimes they are not. And reading contextually something you seem thoroughly incapable of, allows you to infer if it's meant as an insult or not. I remember a girl who referred to her boyfriend as 'my bitch' once and in no way was that implied as an insult. Her phone just rang and she said 'one moment, my bitch calling.'
He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence
No, he or she didn't, he or she was simply remarking upon the time my scouting probe arrived and after that a friendly conversation followed during and after the game regarding the merits of early probe scouting.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
Now imagine being a young brown child who can read context and can realize that the same word can be used as an insult, or not, depending on the context in which it stands. Which is the case with so many words. Take the word 'dick', pop quiz, see if you can read context, here are some made up quotes.
"Obama is the biggest dick ever, he promised so much and didn't follow up with any of it, he's almost a second Bush!"
"You're such a dick you know that, ahaha." - your SO after you come home from being in the cold, sneak up on him or her and put your ice cold fingers into his or her neck
"Holy fucking dick, that graphics card has some mad specs."
"That was such a dick move by Artosis, first asking money for esportsu and then not giving his customers anything, big scam."
Now, go ahead, see if you can filter out the cases where "dick" is used as an insult and the cases where it isn't.
Dick is not the same. You don't get to decide when a word that functioned as an instrument of oppression has lost its oppressive functionality.
You don't get to decide that, you get to do that. I can say the word nigger here and it's not an instrument of oppression in the context of this sentence.
Pop quiz. Try and do the same thing except instead of a lame word like "dick" actually use the word n*****. Except do it at a public bar with brown people. Oh that's right, you wouldn't.
You keep saying that dumb bullshit, but if you're capable of thought you'll also understand that certain things offend certain people. Dead baby jokes are largely fine, but if a guy just lost his kid, maybe I'd get decked in the face. Certain people are not open to certain types of humor depending on their circumstances. It doesn't mean that we can't talk about those things, it just means that it's important to be considerate.
It's unlikely you would get decked by anyone for telling dead baby jokes. This isn't about anything so trivial as "taking offense," but your conflation of the two is telling.
There's no conflation, my point is that your argument sucks. You're essentially saying that since "brown people" can get offended by those words, it means that we can't use them. My argument is that there are plenty of words or jokes that offend people for plenty of reasons. The fact that certain things offend certain people is not a good reason not to mention those words.
So I'm not equating racial slurs and dead baby jokes in general, I'm equating them to show why your argument is a POS.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context. The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity. He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
It's a good thing you aim to stop people from using the word rather than putting in any effort to fix any of those problems. Good on you.
The use of the word is a problem over and on top of the other problems. Language matters.
Like I said. It's a good thing you're focusing on the most important part of fixing racism which is obviously the use of words that people can find offensive.
On December 29 2013 02:09 SiskosGoatee wrote: I just met someone on the ladder, I always scout early and my opponent says of my probe. "Damn, that's one early nigger.", prime example of context, it's a probe, it doesn't have a race, obviously the opponent didn't mean to imply any racist thought anywhere, if you get offended by that you need a class in context reading.
That's an absurd analysis. He could have substituted a variety of other denigrating words there all with a pejorative connotation. He's perpetuating the use of a racist epithet in a negative context. The word he used is a label for an entire race of people that were literally propertized and objectified for centuries and continue to be dehumanized even 150 years after emancipation by the continued use of a word that Others them. He is implying racist thoughts by using that word because the word signals a sub-race of humanity. He anthropomorphizes the probe and promptly Others it to heap scorn upon it. This is the perpetuation of cultural violence.
Imagine being a young brown child growing up in a society where people say "what a _______ n*****" to describe people and events that annoy or infuriate them. The word would designate something inherently problematic, suboptimal, and bad. Imagine growing up in a society where a word that means "brown person" also means something shitty and problematic. It certainly doesn't simply designate a person worthy of empathy and full participation in the society. Now imagine the systemic effect of a population of people who are unconsciously programmed to associate shitty, problematic things with a racial epithet and by extension an entire race. This is the meaning of systemic violence.
It's a good thing you aim to stop people from using the word rather than putting in any effort to fix any of those problems. Good on you.
The use of the word is a problem over and on top of the other problems. Language matters.
Like I said. It's a good thing you're focusing on the most important part of fixing racism which is obviously the use of words that people can find offensive.
I'd go so far that this stuff is even counter productive to a large extend as it creates a culture where people strive against each other rather than come together. Same with how a lot of feminists operate, they create this whole 'women vs men' idea. Obviously a lot of feminists do good work but some just increase the problems they aim to solve.
Yeah, I agree, I knew "faggot" as a general insult before I knew it was originally something for gay people and I knew that before I knew it technically means bundle of wooden stick.
Also, I knew "gay" as something related to sexual orientation before I knew it meant a state of mind technically.
I also knew "Son of a bitch" before I knew what "bitch" was and what was actually implied with the phrase, I just thought it was a random insult and didn't decompose it into its individual parts.
So I've incidentally been reading up on the status of transgenderism in Thailand and how they treat it reminded me of this topic.
Essentially, transsexuals are far more accepted in Thailand than in the west, many famous film and pop stars are transsexuals in Thailand, they enter and often win beauty contests, some politicians are and so fourth. About 1% of Thailand is in fact transsexual which is far higher than in the west, possibly because more people dare to come out just because it's more accepted.
But here's the point, they can't change their legal gender, and they are seldom referred to as the sex they identify with, instead people perceive them as third and fourth genders and they do so themselves. Basically, in Thai culture it's like: "No, I don't think you're a real woman, but I'm totally cool with whatever you are though and you're kind of hot." in the west it's more like "Yes, I totally believe you're a real woman, or so I say, but in the end I'm a little bit uneased by you and being around you.".
Which is a very intersesting distinction, in the west transsexuals are more accepted as the opposite biological sex, but aren't really accepted as what they are. In Thailand they aren't accepted as the opposite biological sex, but much more as what they simply are. People don't get uneasy around transsexuals and around the subject. A transsexual pop star in the west would just never work, too many people would be too uneasy deep down inside to become fans, but in Thailand it seems to work just fine.
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