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I wanted to write this blog a few days ago already. Now it's about time....
Do you know those comments:
"map hacking?"
"shut up map hacker f u"
"ofc, hack more"
"oh youre hacking"
"even with your hacks you can't win"
It starts to annoy me. Every now and then we get threads popping up like that:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434062
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=427608
all over the forums and everyone in the game feels entitled to report you for hacking:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GMVzBQJ.jpg)
yeah right, I must be hacking to hold the watchtower when you move through it, have a marine to spot and then scan where it was to see what you do:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ghJGLXR.jpg)
And yeah, when I see a double gas from a zerg at 4:30 and no third and roaches at the front with double evos researching early, I must be hacking to build marauders and tanks.
And yes, when I keep on attacking with my mutalisks from a certain angle and happen to kill a dropship that is crazy enough to fly through there (which is the closest way to my base by air btw), I must be hacking.
Get real crybabies. There may be hackers. But that does not make everyone who plays properly or just gets lucky a hacker. And maybe check a replay once, before you (claim to) report, ok? You may even learn something from those opponents, who seem to use good reactions to your play.
  
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
The more ppl who call you hacker the better you are, just bathe in their tears and be happy
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I run into that kind of people occasionally as well, no use doing anything else than ignoring them really. They're just frustrated with the game and their play so it's an easy solution to just blame it on someone cheating however vague or unjustified the accusations might be. Just like people mindlessly flaming and shit talking for the hell of it these guys really don't deserve your attention
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Yeah. Had a game with crazy luck where i sniped two full medivac kind of like by accident. You know "Oh cool there's a medivac here" and you get called on.
I just respond something among the lines like : "Yeah i hack since the beta of Warcraft III" just to see if i make it to the hacker thread :p
Never happened though 
Sometimes you play a guy and he is fishy as hell. You watch the replay and you're like : "Oh... no. I'm just that bad and he saw every move".
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Canada932 Posts
Live on in blissful ignorance. *LOTS* of people are maphacking. That's why it's common for people to assume that you are, too. I've gone over the replays of fishy ladder games maybe a few dozen times, and they've been definitely hacking at least 2/3 of them. Those are just the people that are bad enough at it to be obvious for me to CHECK.
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I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them.
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On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them.
Sorry, but you are defending people that make unfounded accusations.
There is nothing wrong with being dubious if you can't explain what happened in a game. It's the childish accuse and report everybody who beat me behaviour that bothers me.
On November 22 2013 00:36 -Kaiser- wrote:
Live on in blissful ignorance. *LOTS* of people are maphacking. That's why it's common for people to assume that you are, too. I've gone over the replays of fishy ladder games maybe a few dozen times, and they've been definitely hacking at least 2/3 of them. Those are just the people that are bad enough at it to be obvious for me to CHECK.
I'm pretty sure that 99% and more are not maphacking, so only a jerk accuses without second checking.
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
There aren't lots of people hacking, however the reason people say you're hacking is the same reason people complain about balance, it shifts the reason for the loss off yourself and onto something out of your control, retaining your false ego.
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On November 22 2013 00:58 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them. Sorry, but you are defending people that make unfounded accusations. There is nothing wrong with being dubious if you can't explain what happened in a game. It's the childish accuse and report everybody who beat me behaviour that bothers me.
No need to apologize, I don't care. People make unfounded accusations all the time. On CS, people call me a hacker all the time. I don't make threads or complain about it.
I don't know why you care 
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On November 22 2013 01:07 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:58 Big J wrote:On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them. Sorry, but you are defending people that make unfounded accusations. There is nothing wrong with being dubious if you can't explain what happened in a game. It's the childish accuse and report everybody who beat me behaviour that bothers me. No need to apologize, I don't care. People make unfounded accusations all the time. On CS, people call me a hacker all the time. I don't make threads or complain about it. I don't know why you care
Being called a hacker in cs makes you feel good not bad ^^
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On November 22 2013 01:07 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:58 Big J wrote:On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them. Sorry, but you are defending people that make unfounded accusations. There is nothing wrong with being dubious if you can't explain what happened in a game. It's the childish accuse and report everybody who beat me behaviour that bothers me. No need to apologize, I don't care. People make unfounded accusations all the time. On CS, people call me a hacker all the time. I don't make threads or complain about it. I don't know why you care
And yet you are here. 
I guess it's just a little idealism that makes me write this. Hoping that someone might reconsider the next time he wants to throw out a stupid accusation.
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No offense but this seems just like a bragging post. "Hey look at me! I'm good enough to get accused of hacking!"
This happens everyday to almost everyone at some point, it's hardly something you'd write a blog about
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On November 22 2013 01:13 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 01:07 Djzapz wrote:On November 22 2013 00:58 Big J wrote:On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them. Sorry, but you are defending people that make unfounded accusations. There is nothing wrong with being dubious if you can't explain what happened in a game. It's the childish accuse and report everybody who beat me behaviour that bothers me. No need to apologize, I don't care. People make unfounded accusations all the time. On CS, people call me a hacker all the time. I don't make threads or complain about it. I don't know why you care And yet you are here. I guess it's just a little idealism that makes me write this. Hoping that someone might reconsider the next time he wants to throw out a stupid accusation.
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by 'yet you are here' :O. I'm in a bunch of places discussing a bunch of topics!
I'm here saying that you shouldn't let it bother you. When people accuse you of hacking and you know you're not hacking, just take it as a compliment and be amused. That's what I do. You won't get rid of idiots so easily.
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On November 22 2013 01:23 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 01:13 Big J wrote:On November 22 2013 01:07 Djzapz wrote:On November 22 2013 00:58 Big J wrote:On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them. Sorry, but you are defending people that make unfounded accusations. There is nothing wrong with being dubious if you can't explain what happened in a game. It's the childish accuse and report everybody who beat me behaviour that bothers me. No need to apologize, I don't care. People make unfounded accusations all the time. On CS, people call me a hacker all the time. I don't make threads or complain about it. I don't know why you care And yet you are here. I guess it's just a little idealism that makes me write this. Hoping that someone might reconsider the next time he wants to throw out a stupid accusation. Out of curiosity, what do you mean by 'yet you are here' :O. I'm in a bunch of places discussing a bunch of topics! I'm here saying that you shouldn't let it bother you. When people accuse you of hacking and you know you're not hacking, just take it as a compliment and be amused. That's what I do. You won't get rid of idiots so easily.
I meant: well, you don't make threads. But you still like to discuss it
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On November 22 2013 01:21 pellejohnson wrote:
No offense but this seems just like a bragging post. "Hey look at me! I'm good enough to get accused of hacking!"
This happens everyday to almost everyone at some point, it's hardly something you'd write a blog about
The purpose of a blog is to chronicle the thoughts, opinions, perspectives, and experiences of an individual for others to read. You may not agree with Big J's point of view, nor his inclination to write a blog about it, but this is precisely the sort of content a blog is for.
For instance, yesterday the elevator at work started smoking and fuming because the transformer or whatever started going nuts, and we had to evacuate the building until the firefighters and engineers who showed up deemed the place safe again. I'm clearly not the only person to experience this since the beginning of time; does that make me ineligible to write a blog about it? Am I saying, "Hey, look at me! I'm a badass for being so smooth and collected in a time of potential danger!"... or am I just wanting to share an experience?
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On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them.
To be fair in CS you are never good. You are : "Cheater/Hacker" or "Noob". You never see anything between it
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On November 22 2013 01:28 Archas wrote:For instance, yesterday the elevator at work started smoking and fuming because the transformer or whatever started going nuts, and we had to evacuate the building until the firefighters and engineers who showed up deemed the place safe again. I'm clearly not the only person to experience this since the beginning of time; does that make me ineligible to write a blog about it? Am I saying, "Hey, look at me! I'm a badass for being so smooth and collected in a time of potential danger!"... or am I just wanting to share an experience?
Clearly the later.
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On November 22 2013 01:28 Archas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 01:21 pellejohnson wrote:
No offense but this seems just like a bragging post. "Hey look at me! I'm good enough to get accused of hacking!"
This happens everyday to almost everyone at some point, it's hardly something you'd write a blog about The purpose of a blog is to chronicle the thoughts, opinions, perspectives, and experiences of an individual for others to read. You may not agree with Big J's point of view, nor his inclination to write a blog about it, but this is precisely the sort of content a blog is for. For instance, yesterday the elevator at work started smoking and fuming because the transformer or whatever started going nuts, and we had to evacuate the building until the firefighters and engineers who showed up deemed the place safe again. I'm clearly not the only person to experience this since the beginning of time; does that make me ineligible to write a blog about it? Am I saying, "Hey, look at me! I'm a badass for being so smooth and collected in a time of potential danger!"... or am I just wanting to share an experience?
I want to read that blog
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I got accused of hacking in bw a few times. I cherished those moments because generally I was just a nub getting stomped.
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Getting called a hacker when you didn't cheat is pretty great imho, it means that you outplayed your opponent so hard that they can't even understand why they lost.
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There were a couple guys on NA ladder that I used to consistently beat and would just always claim I was hacking even if I was streaming or something. It was kind of amusing.
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I've once met a maphacker, twice in a row. And it was really obvious. He had an inject hack aswell I believe, and never sent an overlord even halfway across the map. Apart from that, yeah, a lot of speculation but it's mostly due to people not knowing what the opponent actually saw.
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Pretty much what everone else said, enjoy the salt and be happy you aren't godlike in cs and get banned after 20 minutes from every server you join -.- .
+ Show Spoiler +Ok, this one time on dust, I throw a fog granade into the tunnel, knife down a guy, pick up his aka47 and kill 3 of his teammates :D
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I've been accused of hacking before in SC2, and recently the poor victim of my Potm arrow in Dota 2 called out "hacker!" when I landed a obvious lucky arrow by blindly shooting it into his jungle and killing him with it.
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your Country52798 Posts
I was accused of maphacking because I used warp prism
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I've been accused of hacking on a cs1.6 dm server, of all places. I made several awp kills through a wall against a guy who was using the most predictable dodge, haha.
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OP you are wrong. Hackers are very prevalent. Denial doesn't help the state of the game. I've played SC for 14 years and have come across many hackers.. sometimes 100% sure they hack, sometimes 95%, etc. I've falsely accused people of hacking. I've falsely been accused of hacking.
I've visited the maphack websites where it shows a counter of downloads.. 1,000,000+..
You have what I call head-in-the-sand-syndrome.
That said, most hackers are lazy and weak players who look for the cheap route to victory. Macro play and good mechanics typically demolishes them.
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On November 22 2013 05:01 guN-viCe wrote:
OP you are wrong. Hackers are very prevalent. Denial doesn't help the state of the game. I've played SC for 14 years and have come across many hackers.. sometimes 100% sure they hack, sometimes 95%, etc. I've falsely accused people of hacking. I've falsely been accused of hacking.
I've visited the maphack websites where it shows a counter of downloads.. 1,000,000+..
You have what I call head-in-the-sand-syndrome.
That said, most hackers are lazy and weak players who look for the cheap route to victory. Macro play and good mechanics typically demolishes them.
I'm not saying noone is hacking. Hacking is a serious issue.
But most people are not and accusing everyone of it just because the game offers tools that make the opponent know stuff without you knowing (like XNWT or just spotting while not being spotted) or because an opponent knows build orders and timings and you are not realizing how obvious you are playing is pretty stupid.
And counterproductive if anything. Reporting each and everybody to blizzard because you can't deal with losing does not make the job to find real hackers easier.
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Hey sometimes it is a fucking maphacker!
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I recall back in WoL I would "catch" a lotta people map hacking in Protoss vs Protoss. This matchup made it easy for me to tell. Blind proxy gates on 4 spawn map, magically finding obscure pylons (direct path of travel, no scouting elsewhere). The most annoying is when they would try to hard counter your tech, or blink into bases your army was not at. Eventually I had to learn to identify map hackers and play knowing they were watching (which gave me an advantage). Moral of the story is a lot of people used to cheat. Would not be surprised if this is still the case.
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On November 22 2013 00:36 -Kaiser- wrote:
Live on in blissful ignorance. *LOTS* of people are maphacking. That's why it's common for people to assume that you are, too. I've gone over the replays of fishy ladder games maybe a few dozen times, and they've been definitely hacking at least 2/3 of them. Those are just the people that are bad enough at it to be obvious for me to CHECK.
Yeah, you are right about this. Many people are naive about how easy and how rampant maphacking really is. I know guys who have maphacked since season 1 and never got banned.
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Yeah you're clueless..maphacking is fucking rampant on ladder these days. Youre probably just fortunate enough to not encounter it or bad enough to not realize its happening to you.
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On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them.
A lot of "guilty until proven innocent" people here. Fantastic.
I HAD TO DO IT. I HAD TO. ;-;
omggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
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On November 23 2013 12:41 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:39 Djzapz wrote:
I was accused of hacking recently in CSGO and I couldn't blame the guy, I had two wild lucky shots in a row. Hacking is present enough that people are dubious, you can hardly blame them. A lot of "guilty until proven innocent" people here. Fantastic. I HAD TO DO IT. I HAD TO. ;-; omggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Oh I see what you did there.
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