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Just wanted to ask something someone like me never understands , first some background , I'm someone who was really good at age of empire and also really good at Broodwar ( A- iccup )
And for me rates are easy , unless that Starcraft 1
I'm not understanding why some people stay for example in gold , bronze or silver , why they dont get higher rank ? Some of them play a lot and still never go higher rank ? Some of my friends are really smart people but yet they are all gold and one of them diamond , they play a lot too , why they don't get higher rank ? They don't know how to improve ?
Got 2 Starcraft one buddy who was also really good at Broodwar and one of them got high master really really fast , and he never plays .....
For me , I picked Starcraft 2 and got diamond after 60 games or less , was master at 120-130 game, then for a while i was master , then high master and even the low grandmaster at the end .
Why that's so easy for me ?
Why ? That's because of the Starcraft 1 background ?
For me Starcraft 2 really easy modes and from anyone who have played Broodwar they usually got it really easy , but what I'm not understanding , if that easy like that , why some people never got it and go higher rank and league after some practice ?
You got replay for building , you can watch the pro gamer do the build and watch them , what go wrong ?
When you just copy it over ?
Everyone in my eye should be diamond or better , no excuse .
 
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On September 25 2013 10:55 quebecman77 wrote:
Everyone in my eye should be diamond or better , no excuse .
i respect your right to have an opinion.
but yours is retarded.
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Link your gm account son.
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not everyone takes the game seriously or plays competitively. is that so hard to understand?
it takes time and effort to improve, and most people probably don't want to commit either of those things. also, not everyone who plays watches pro matches
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ugh
don't make us bw fans look like jerks pls
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Obvious troll is obvious. Or at the very least an insensitive braggart.
Ladder rank is a relative scale, not an absolute one. Bottom 8% must be bronze. Even if in 5 years time, if a player could play as well as the pros now, if 92% of the active player base is better than him, he will be in bronze and that's where he belongs. So no, it is impossible for everyone to be in diamond. The only way to rank up is to improve faster than everyone else.
Surely this is not difficult to comprehend for someone as smart and skilled as you ;D
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lol you aren't very smart.
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On September 25 2013 11:01 Pawsom wrote:
Link your gm account son.
This
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On September 25 2013 11:08 ieatkids5 wrote:
ugh
don't make us bw fans look like jerks pls
Please follow this advice =/
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The leagues improve over time as players get better at the game.
Probably 90% of the current active player base could have gotten diamond when WoL was released, because everyone was terrible then. iccup is full of good players now because people have had 15 years to get good at SC1, give people time to get good at SC2.
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1) Don't be so elitist
2) If, tomorrow, all bronze players and up suddenly developed diamond MMR, they would still be in bronze, because the game will automatically put people with the lowest MMR into Bronze. It doesn't matter their actual skill, there will just always be a statistically weakest player.
Also, that's very elitist.
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Having prior RTS experience is a big help; you've already did the leg work to learning how mechanics of a game works, especially if you put 1000s of hours into BW. Imagine how difficult this game is for someone who just picked it up without playing bw/etc..
I've played on sponsored teams in WC3 and high level in BW too, so SC2 was easy to get high master/low GM, but I wouldnt call the game "easy" as a whole, because there is a good 1000-2000 players who are working harder than us trying to be a pro. Until you are consistently in the top 20 of GM without heavy loss records, this game is not "easy" - low GM can be achieved from a good understanding of the game and mass gaming in any one season.
But you have very little chance outside of a 1 game cheese to beat anyone of value in the SC2 pro scene. Your "A-" iccup rating wont matter there; this isnt a mechanical game in the end and it takes intelligence over "speed" - which is why many of the top BW players are struggling to win championships in SC2 (can you really argue Maru.Prime, a WC3 player if I believe, can out-macro Flash or Bogus?? No, but Maru is smart as hell and beat them with his strategy) - Thats why SC2 is a great RTS, it takes more than just copying a korean build and playing on auto-pilot... Which will take you to GM, but won't take you far in the pro circuit.
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Poll: What is this?Subtle girl blog (30) 41% The pinnacle of 5 billion years of evolution (27) 37% 100% troll in here (9) 12% Subtle brag blog (7) 10% 73 total votes Your vote: What is this? (Vote): Subtle brag blog
(Vote): 100% troll in here
(Vote): Subtle girl blog
(Vote): The pinnacle of 5 billion years of evolution
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A while ago, I was playing some racing game called Auto Club Revolution and got a #1 lap time on an online leader board after only a couple weeks of playing.
+ Show Spoiler [I actually have proof unlike OP] +
Wow I'm so cool, I picked up a game and was one of the best players in it after only a very short period time playing it!
In actuality, I've been playing racing games pretty much since I can remember, so this feat is actually not as ridiculous as it seems.
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Some people don't play the game to be pro. They do it for fun. Fun to them isn't memorizing build orders and playing strategically to get better. Fun for them is doing whatever the hell they want because they suck and their opponents suck to so they'll see what happens. You can't do that shit in diamond+. Everything above that is about mechanics and strategic choices and build orders. I suppose that's why I hear a lot of pros say that Starcraft 2 isn't fun to play.
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Hi my name is Staboteur and I've never been the best at anything.
+ Show Spoiler +If someone is trying to get diamond for as long as you've played BW and still wasn't good enough, then there's something to talk about. Otherwise obviously people with no previous RTS experience and/or no will or drive to b gud aren't going to get grandmaster. The end.
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For me , I learned English and got B2 CERF after 6 years or less , was C1 at 12-13 years, then for a while i was C1 , then high C1 and even the low C2 at the end .
Why that's so easy for me ?
Why ? That's because of the Germanic language background ?
For me English really easy modes and from anyone who speaks German they usually got it really easy , but what I'm not understanding , if that easy like that , why some people never got it and go higher level after some practice ?
You got grammar books for building , you can watch actors speak the language and watch them , what go wrong ?
When you just copy it over ?
Everyone in my eye should be B2 or better , no excuse .
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Not everyone has the talent or work ethic to be in the NBA or be Kobe Bryant.
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On September 25 2013 12:22 ninazerg wrote:Poll: What is this?Subtle girl blog (30) 41% The pinnacle of 5 billion years of evolution (27) 37% 100% troll in here (9) 12% Subtle brag blog (7) 10% 73 total votes Your vote: What is this? (Vote): Subtle brag blog
(Vote): 100% troll in here
(Vote): Subtle girl blog
(Vote): The pinnacle of 5 billion years of evolution
I would vote subtle brag blog but it's about as subtle as donald trumps hairpiece.
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wow, op is on point. this is exactly how i feel when all of the grandmaster players say they cant find jobs or get girls to sleep with them. Everyone in my eye should be lawyer, doctor or better with norwegian or japanese goddess wife , no excuse .
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And for me rates are easy
Starcraft 2 really easy modes
This is prime copy-paste material.
edit- Japanese goddess wife? Norwegian goddess wife?
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On September 25 2013 12:22 ninazerg wrote:Poll: What is this?Subtle girl blog (30) 41% The pinnacle of 5 billion years of evolution (27) 37% 100% troll in here (9) 12% Subtle brag blog (7) 10% 73 total votes Your vote: What is this? (Vote): Subtle brag blog
(Vote): 100% troll in here
(Vote): Subtle girl blog
(Vote): The pinnacle of 5 billion years of evolution
Definitely girl blog, not a doubt about it.
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On September 25 2013 13:20 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:22 ninazerg wrote:Poll: What is this?Subtle girl blog (30) 41% The pinnacle of 5 billion years of evolution (27) 37% 100% troll in here (9) 12% Subtle brag blog (7) 10% 73 total votes Your vote: What is this? (Vote): Subtle brag blog
(Vote): 100% troll in here
(Vote): Subtle girl blog
(Vote): The pinnacle of 5 billion years of evolution
Definitely girl blog, not a doubt about it.
Girl blogs all the way down...
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Too good man, you should go pro!
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I don't get this girl blog. Is he/she trying to say that size does matter?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On September 25 2013 17:10 Sejanus wrote:
I don't get this girl blog. Is he/she trying to say that size does matter?
didn't you read?
he said he sees he is A- cup and he sits all day on his computer being good at starcrafts, every girl who played bw he sees is A cup
but girls in sc2 are bronze, not even A cup, so he is super disappointed in girls
girl blog, explained.
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Stop being a pussy and ask her to marry you.
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On September 25 2013 18:34 playerboy345 wrote:
Stop being a pussy and ask her to marry you.
Hahaha.
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but girls in sc2 are bronze, not even A cup, so he is super disappointed in girls
That's a bit harsh of him. Not every girl can wear B+ cup, I mean it's genetics, and not every girl who play SC2 has money nor wish for plastic surgery. One of the worst girl blogs I've ever read. But at least he's good at Broodwar.
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I agree. absolutely. more cups for bw girls, I guess.diamonds for all sc2 girls!
that's what this blog is about, right?
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On September 25 2013 10:55 quebecman77 wrote:
Just wanted to ask something someone like me never understands , first some background , I'm someone who was really good at age of empire and also really good at Broodwar ( A- iccup )
And for me rates are easy , unless that Starcraft 1
I'm not understanding why some people stay for example in gold , bronze or silver , why they dont get higher rank ? Some of them play a lot and still never go higher rank ? Some of my friends are really smart people but yet they are all gold and one of them diamond , they play a lot too , why they don't get higher rank ? They don't know how to improve ?
Got 2 Starcraft one buddy who was also really good at Broodwar and one of them got high master really really fast , and he never plays .....
For me , I picked Starcraft 2 and got diamond after 60 games or less , was master at 120-130 game, then for a while i was master , then high master and even the low grandmaster at the end .
Why that's so easy for me ?
Why ? That's because of the Starcraft 1 background ?
For me Starcraft 2 really easy modes and from anyone who have played Broodwar they usually got it really easy , but what I'm not understanding , if that easy like that , why some people never got it and go higher rank and league after some practice ?
You got replay for building , you can watch the pro gamer do the build and watch them , what go wrong ?
When you just copy it over ?
Everyone in my eye should be diamond or better , no excuse .
Just wanted to ask something I've never fully understood, but first I'll spare a little background. I'm someone who has a lot of experience with different languages, like English and Australian (98% ATAR score in the WACE exams).
And for me, I find grammatical formation very easy, except for example Estonian.
I don't understand why some people can barely speak English, or any other language fluently for that matter. Why don't they just try to actually improve themselves a little bit? Some of them speak 'English' all day, yet it's barely coherent and their grammar is terrible, how is this possible? Some of my friends are really smart people and yet they still struggle with basic language constructs, although one of them can hold a conversation with me provided the have a thesaurus on hand. Why don't they just learn to speak properly so they don't sound like imbeciles? Do they not know how to improve?
I once got a book on learning Latin, and with one friend of mine we picked up the written language fluently very fast, and he barely even focused on learning it...
As for me, I flew to Bali and was interacting with the locals in 60 minutes or less, and the next day I started writing a novel in Bahasa. Soon after self publishing said book I was invited to join the international language excellence society because of my amazing proficiency.
Why are languages so easy?
Is it because I wasn't dropped on my head as a baby?
For me English is a really easy-mode language and anyone that wasn't dropped on their head as a child should be able to speak it fluently with no effort, but what I can't rectify is how can people still not know how to speak it after so much exposure to it?
You've got sites for learning, you can read English literature classics full of lovely prose, what goes wrong?
How can it be so easy?
In my eye, everyone should have a very good command of the English language at the very least, no excuses.
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Look! I only start cookieclicker yesterday, and now, i very high cookie-income.
I dont understand why people so bad at this game...
I know, I had a good background coming from gaming, having high APM, and WoW-background allowing me to click while asleep.
But still, this game so easy, dunno why people get stuck at sub 1billion CpS (cookie per second) even after weeks...
In my eye, everyone should have at least 1bill CpS after a day. No excuses
PROOF:
+ Show Spoiler +
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quebecman77, that's not how it works. You don't ask people why they are bad, you tell us why you are good!
Anyways, one point i liked about the original post is "the pro replays are right there, all you have to do is copy it" or something along those lines. To copy something one must be able to appreciate it's goodness. If you just move you copy blindly and don't k now anything about it, it won't work, so maybe other people don't make the same good assumptions about the game as others.
My better idea is that some people place very high value on being good and so they are unconsciously assuming that being good must be difficult, and that creates a mental barrier.
Another thing to consider is that perhaps someone has learned a skill along the way that they haven't even realized they have learned. Something like multi tasking. Perhaps someone was addicted to tetris for a while and forgot about it.
Thirdly, there is such thing as variations from person to person. "Why can't this guy have brown hair naturally!!?" Because that's the way it is!
Finally, the ladder and even an individual game doesn't reward all aspects of good play. Someone might enjoy the micro aspect or the macro aspect specifically but find little interest in developing overall strategies that lead to wins. Likewise, sometimes players do things that are not very optimal and catch a player who is thinking more and sacrificing his concentration to make decisions that end up being irrelevant because someone on ladder decided to go mass banshee (ie roll the dice). Rank does not tell the whole story. It just says who can beat someone at a certain level on average more. For all we know there could be people in gold who wouild take games from masters but just can't manage to compete with some types of cheese plays yet.
I guess the point is, reserve judgement until you've really thought about it.
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On September 25 2013 12:37 Ettick wrote:A while ago, I was playing some racing game called Auto Club Revolution and got a #1 lap time on an online leader board after only a couple weeks of playing. + Show Spoiler [I actually have proof unlike OP] +Wow I'm so cool, I picked up a game and was one of the best players in it after only a very short period time playing it! In actuality, I've been playing racing games pretty much since I can remember, so this feat is actually not as ridiculous as it seems.
dude a .1 s lead on the otherwise best time?? NICE! (I was expecting like .005 to .01s split.)
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On September 25 2013 11:00 TyrantPotato wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 10:55 quebecman77 wrote:
Everyone in my eye should be diamond or better , no excuse .
i respect your right to have an opinion. but yours is retarded.
that statement just shows he has no idea about the fuck he is talking.
not only doesn't he respect the human way of progress, also is doesn't even realize that diamond is top 18% of the ladder.....
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On September 26 2013 04:03 sabas123 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 11:00 TyrantPotato wrote:On September 25 2013 10:55 quebecman77 wrote:
Everyone in my eye should be diamond or better , no excuse .
i respect your right to have an opinion. but yours is retarded. that statement just shows he has no idea about the fuck he is talking. not only doesn't he respect the human way of progress, also is doesn't even realize that diamond is top 18 % of the ladder.....
Diamonds are an overrated mineral anyways.
The best way to please a girl is not with diamond but rather with song.
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On September 26 2013 03:14 DusTerr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:37 Ettick wrote:A while ago, I was playing some racing game called Auto Club Revolution and got a #1 lap time on an online leader board after only a couple weeks of playing. + Show Spoiler [I actually have proof unlike OP] +Wow I'm so cool, I picked up a game and was one of the best players in it after only a very short period time playing it! In actuality, I've been playing racing games pretty much since I can remember, so this feat is actually not as ridiculous as it seems. dude a .1 s lead on the otherwise best time?? NICE! (I was expecting like .005 to .01s split.)
I can't tell if you're being ironic or not, but just in case you are I'd like to say that .1s is actually a pretty significant gap and is arguably even more so on short tracks like that one.
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hello here the op , just wanted to reply to some post and reply because I'm feeling way too many people are angry for some reason like not accepting some people are better that them ?
first one from : Srontgorrth United States. September 25 2013 11:01. Posts 178 Gift TL+ PM Profile Quote #
not everyone takes the game seriously or plays competitively. is that so hard to understand?
it takes time and effort to improve, and most people probably don't want to commit either of those things. also, not everyone who plays watches pro matches
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im thinking maybe you forget to read my post , im not taking the game seriously or trying to play competitively and it take no time or effert to improve for me and ( some of my buddy sc1 friend ) , also some people i know , they just got it , again in my first post im asking why some people got it and are good ? and some who even practice hard , all day , never got it ?
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im reading some people who say my english bad , that okay , that the only thing they can attack me with !! that basic , like saying my father beat your ! keep going ! im sure they are more butthurt to be bad and need to attack me because im asking a pure question . then someone else say :
APhREAk Nauru. September 25 2013 13:11. Posts 10193 Gift TL+ PM Profile Blog Quote #
wow, op is on point. this is exactly how i feel when all of the grandmaster players say they cant find jobs or get girls to sleep with them. Everyone in my eye should be lawyer, doctor or better with norwegian or japanese goddess wife , no excuse .
agree with him , would like to know too , im grandmaster but got a jobs , more money that most in teamliquid , car of the year and girl to sleep with me all the time , when i want , for reply to the question asked by him : that probably because im not grandmaster anymore !! okay next question :
someone else ask me :
eskashaborn United States. September 25 2013 14:10. Posts 111 Gift TL+ PM Profile Quote #
Too good man, you should go pro!
thx man , was thinking at some point but im hating to play computer video game too much , for me that max 1-2 hours when i got some time , that totaly lame to play to much and i realy dont need the poor salary from being a pro gamer .
well , no one have reply to my initial post , that was more some angry kids trying to attack me , would have realy to know why because the game so easy 
that the end of my girl blog and im understand why some people here require girl blog with the reply you give me !
was attacking no one at first , you just feal angry because you are probably not high league !
sorry dude ! can teach you maybe if you start to be nice !
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This is the greatest blog of all time.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On September 26 2013 09:35 Fission wrote:
This is the greatest blog of all time.
zaMnal still wins, this one does not have enough creepy photoshops
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On September 26 2013 09:03 quebecman77 wrote:
hello here the op , just wanted to reply to some post and reply because I'm feeling way too many people are angry for some reason like not accepting some people are better that them ?
Can you not understand the hypocrisy in your post? Some people have different priorities, of which you are a prime example (which is what my post was supposed to highlight, but I fear it missed the mark with you). I'm not usually one to judge others so harshly, but when you judge others as you do, I feel it's appropriate. A look back at the mirror if you will.
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On September 26 2013 09:03 quebecman77 wrote:+ Show Spoiler [a bunch of very poor English] +hello here the op , just wanted to reply to some post and reply because I'm feeling way too many people are angry for some reason like not accepting some people are better that them ? first one from : Srontgorrth United States. September 25 2013 11:01. Posts 178 Gift TL+ PM Profile Quote # not everyone takes the game seriously or plays competitively. is that so hard to understand? it takes time and effort to improve, and most people probably don't want to commit either of those things. also, not everyone who plays watches pro matches ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ im thinking maybe you forget to read my post , im not taking the game seriously or trying to play competitively and it take no time or effert to improve for me and ( some of my buddy sc1 friend ) , also some people i know , they just got it , again in my first post im asking why some people got it and are good ? and some who even practice hard , all day , never got it ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- im reading some people who say my english bad , that okay , that the only thing they can attack me with !! that basic , like saying my father beat your ! keep going ! im sure they are more butthurt to be bad and need to attack me because im asking a pure question . then someone else say : APhREAk Nauru. September 25 2013 13:11. Posts 10193 Gift TL+ PM Profile Blog Quote # wow, op is on point. this is exactly how i feel when all of the grandmaster players say they cant find jobs or get girls to sleep with them. Everyone in my eye should be lawyer, doctor or better with norwegian or japanese goddess wife , no excuse . agree with him , would like to know too , im grandmaster but got a jobs , more money that most in teamliquid , car of the year and girl to sleep with me all the time , when i want , for reply to the question asked by him : that probably because im not grandmaster anymore !! okay next question : someone else ask me : eskashaborn United States. September 25 2013 14:10. Posts 111 Gift TL+ PM Profile Quote # Too good man, you should go pro! thx man , was thinking at some point but im hating to play computer video game too much , for me that max 1-2 hours when i got some time , that totaly lame to play to much and i realy dont need the poor salary from being a pro gamer . well , no one have reply to my initial post , that was more some angry kids trying to attack me , would have realy to know why because the game so easy that the end of my girl blog and im understand why some people here require girl blog with the reply you give me ! was attacking no one at first , you just feal angry because you are probably not high league ! sorry dude ! can teach you maybe if you start to be nice !
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