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A case for Jaedong: Why he was superior to Flash - Page 3

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Scrutinizer
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
September 26 2013 22:01 GMT
#41
Man, I have read the first few paragraphs, and already, I LOVE YOU.
I say this a as a former national (drunk ATM) representative in WCG.
Scrutinizer
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
October 13 2013 06:52 GMT
#42
On September 15 2013 10:30 Chef wrote:
Before I even read this, I half agreed (I rank them equal).

Map balance is a thing, but it's not the only factor. Did you include build order advantages? Or does that count as part of the skill? Well I guess that doesn't matter too much.

IMO these players both transcended the maps, especially in their matches with each other.

I would also say that ZvZ is much more volatile and difficult to be successful in than TvT (really the most stable of the mirrors).

JD suffered on Team 8, but I think most people thought of him as equal to Flash while he played on Oz.

Of the two, Jaedong is more of a trooper who will get at a huge disadvantage (like 12hat vs 9poolspeed) and still come out of it. Flash plays super defensive and has great expo timing and often just dominates the match when he wins. He will trooper it out too if he gets in a bad spot, but the dong gets way more scrappy I think.

The Ultimate Weapon, The Legend Killer.... It was going to take a platinum mouse for Flash to really convincingly knock Jaedong off the throne. If Oz had stayed together and the scene had held on, I could see them both still being threats.

If there's any argument for Jaedong surpassing Flash in this hypothetical, it might be more arm troubles for Flash. But as to who was better in their glory days?? It's not like Boxer v Yellow. They went super evenly. Flash gets remembered cause Jaedong on T8 was nerfed.


Troopering it out all the time is still harder though, nevertheless, I just wanted to say great comments Chef.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 13 2013 10:06 GMT
#43
Even this can't make Harem come back
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 13 2013 15:25 GMT
#44
On October 13 2013 19:06 endy wrote:
Even this can't make Harem come back

Good riddance
Что?
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
October 13 2013 18:30 GMT
#45
As a huge Jaedong fan my opinion is obviously biased that he's better but this was a great blog with a lot of good research...obviously in something as complicated as Starcraft it's hard to take into account every single factor when analyzing players but you did a really good job at this thanks! I really hope someone makes a counterblog to argue the other opinion to see both sides...
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
October 15 2013 16:28 GMT
#46
I feel like it's kind of like federer and nadal. Sure there will be people that argue nadal has a better head to head. But federers career is just far superior in quality and he felt unbeatable and played the nest tennis anyone has seen and most people consider him the best for this reason.
gosukiler
Profile Joined October 2013
7 Posts
October 15 2013 21:28 GMT
#47
Jaedong could have been a bonjwa... so close! Such a shame!
KT_Perry
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)71 Posts
October 24 2013 00:14 GMT
#48
I just wish broodwar went on longer to see them both come in to another prime and really keep fighting it out
;)
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