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Top 30 Foreigner Ranking, August 2013 - Page 3

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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 20 2013 11:56 GMT
#41
Seems liks the MajOreddon is gone, good thing.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 12:52:01
August 20 2013 12:51 GMT
#42
On August 20 2013 18:07 MiND.GaMeS wrote:A small example for some players you ranked very doubtfully in my opinion: Snute, Happy, Vortix and Nerchio are all ahead of Grubby when Grubby is the only one who really managed to make some noise in this seasons WCS and will be one of only 3 foreigners, who made it into WCS S2 Finals (the other two are Scarlett and Naniwa)

Conclusion: I think it's safe to say that the top 3 foreigners (at this very moment) are Naniwa, Scarlett and Grubby. While Scarlett and Nani are a bit seperated at the top 2, No. 3 (Grubby) is very closely followed by TLO i think.


Snute has done more than Grubby in Hots: He won the Redbull training grounds and ESET UK Tournament, as well as finishing second in Homestory cup, and sixth in WCS America, as the highest placed foreigner. The ranking isn't based on results in August only, it takes older results into consideration as well.

Agree that Grubby should be higher ranked, but not over Lucifron and Snute who are better players imo.
xSilverx
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden76 Posts
August 20 2013 13:33 GMT
#43
I agree with the top 2, Scarlett then NaNiWa, but not the rest. For example SortOf should definitely be on the top 20 list. And there are several players i wouldn´t even rank top 50.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 20 2013 16:05 GMT
#44
SortOf didnt do dogshit in the past 2 months honestly. Just because he trains in korea and has lag issues doesnt make him a top 20 player.
I probably rank him higher than his results show
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
August 20 2013 18:48 GMT
#45
Hey thanks for posting it. I was looking forward to see it in the past week but where is the commentary? You know, your justification for why the players are where they are? I realized I read it mostly for your commentary
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 20 2013 19:12 GMT
#46
Why does sLivko have 88 years on his pic ? xD
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 21 2013 18:19 GMT
#47
On August 21 2013 03:48 ggofthejungle wrote:
Hey thanks for posting it. I was looking forward to see it in the past week but where is the commentary? You know, your justification for why the players are where they are? I realized I read it mostly for your commentary



its a ton of work to justify each and every ranking. i do justify -some- rankings when i completly disagree with critique of a players ranking in the thread.

it takes long enough to find a ranking im satisfy with, do the math to comulate it with the aligulac rankings as good as possible and do all the graphics.
it probably takes me like 7-8 hours every time, especially when i do completly new graphics as this month (those with black background are easier to change for the upcoming months though).


thanks for all the feedback again, will try to put up VOTES for next month again.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
August 22 2013 12:28 GMT
#48
one of the most accurate rankings of the last months imho. maybe sase is a little bit too high, but other than that, it's pretty much okay.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
August 22 2013 19:37 GMT
#49
On August 22 2013 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 03:48 ggofthejungle wrote:
Hey thanks for posting it. I was looking forward to see it in the past week but where is the commentary? You know, your justification for why the players are where they are? I realized I read it mostly for your commentary



its a ton of work to justify each and every ranking. i do justify -some- rankings when i completly disagree with critique of a players ranking in the thread.

it takes long enough to find a ranking im satisfy with, do the math to comulate it with the aligulac rankings as good as possible and do all the graphics.
it probably takes me like 7-8 hours every time, especially when i do completly new graphics as this month (those with black background are easier to change for the upcoming months though).


thanks for all the feedback again, will try to put up VOTES for next month again.

Wow, don't waste so much time on it. How about instead of posting a preliminary rating first, then you adjust it as many times as you want while reading the comments of the people?
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
August 23 2013 14:51 GMT
#50
terran box around players name is too similar to protoss box around players name.

nice list.
I am not good with quotes
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 00:15:45
August 26 2013 00:15 GMT
#51
On August 21 2013 01:05 KalWarkov wrote:
SortOf didnt do dogshit in the past 2 months honestly. Just because he trains in korea and has lag issues doesnt make him a top 20 player.
I probably rank him higher than his results show


Kind of funny, to hear this from you, after you kept Major in for so long.

Nani still is Nr.1 IMHO, but I guess you can argue for both. Also Hasu is the german number 1, he showed it twice by winning EPS and WCG Germany and having a much better SC2L-record than TLO as well, so either TLO is a bit overrated or Hasu is a bit underrated, probably a mixture of both.

Other than that evertything looks fine, one could probably argue bout BlinG, but whatever, it is´nt that big of a deal.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 26 2013 13:42 GMT
#52
On August 26 2013 09:15 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 01:05 KalWarkov wrote:
SortOf didnt do dogshit in the past 2 months honestly. Just because he trains in korea and has lag issues doesnt make him a top 20 player.
I probably rank him higher than his results show


Kind of funny, to hear this from you, after you kept Major in for so long.

Nani still is Nr.1 IMHO, but I guess you can argue for both. Also Hasu is the german number 1, he showed it twice by winning EPS and WCG Germany and having a much better SC2L-record than TLO as well, so either TLO is a bit overrated or Hasu is a bit underrated, probably a mixture of both.

Other than that evertything looks fine, one could probably argue bout BlinG, but whatever, it is´nt that big of a deal.



well, MajOr was told by many foreigners to be "the best terran" even, not once or twice, several times.

well, TLO doesnt play EPS, so its hard to judge that.
internationally, TLO showed amazing results (his worst was the last wcs), while Hasu didnt showcase all too much (despite last wcs :D ).

I was very unsure about BlinG either, but you have to respect his qualification for premier league in some way (although there are some premier league players who are not in the list - most of them through aligulac though)
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 15:22:54
August 26 2013 15:22 GMT
#53
On August 26 2013 22:42 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 09:15 Xoronius wrote:
On August 21 2013 01:05 KalWarkov wrote:
SortOf didnt do dogshit in the past 2 months honestly. Just because he trains in korea and has lag issues doesnt make him a top 20 player.
I probably rank him higher than his results show


Kind of funny, to hear this from you, after you kept Major in for so long.

Nani still is Nr.1 IMHO, but I guess you can argue for both. Also Hasu is the german number 1, he showed it twice by winning EPS and WCG Germany and having a much better SC2L-record than TLO as well, so either TLO is a bit overrated or Hasu is a bit underrated, probably a mixture of both.

Other than that evertything looks fine, one could probably argue bout BlinG, but whatever, it is´nt that big of a deal.



well, TLO doesnt play EPS, so its hard to judge that.
internationally, TLO showed amazing results (his worst was the last wcs), while Hasu didnt showcase all too much (despite last wcs :D ).



Well, in the same way, TLO does´nt play EPS, HasuObs did´nt attend that much international tournaments. The last events, both of them played, were:

Acer Team League Challenge:
Hasu 9-8, TLO 3-7

SC2L
Hasu 4-2, TLO 2-3, Hasu beats TLO h2h

WCS
Hasu ro8, TLO ro32

WCG Germany
Hasu defeats TLO and wins the event

For me this looks pretty one-sided in favor of Hasu.
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