EPTTop 30 Foreigner Ranking, August 2013 - Page 2
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LiLSighKoh
United States588 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
Nr 1 and 2 is almost in a league of their own when they play their A game right now.(Don't take this literally a lot of foreigners a game is friggin good)) | ||
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Fofflan
Sweden1 Post
On August 20 2013 13:01 TheDougler wrote: When's the last time Naniwa won anything? Only 2 months ago... | ||
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
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TheWorldToCome
United States452 Posts
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Prof
Canada60 Posts
On August 20 2013 12:34 Flench wrote: Has Scarlett won anything? I've always seen this argument as flawed and I am Naniwa and Scarlett fan. The simple truth is that Scarlett has never competed in a Dreamhack, Homestory Cup or any other EU tournament. The only tournaments that she has competed in are MLG, IPL and WCS all in NA. If she had competed in multiple EU tournaments I have no doubt that she would have one at least one of them as they are actually easier to win then any of the NA tournaments she has played in. In order to win a EU tournament you usually have to beat at moost 2 or 3 Koreans. In order to win a NA tournament you usually have to go through 5 to 10 Koreans (for instance she would have had to go through 7 Koreans and 1 Chinese player to have won WCS NA). The degree of difficulty needs to be taken into account. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
 . Thanks Diabolus! | ||
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vBr
Sweden193 Posts
On August 20 2013 10:02 RiSkysc2 wrote: suppy and demu are better than 20-30. In terms of results you could say this is accurate, but in terms of actual skill this is very inaccurate. Demuslim has no business being top30 even, sorry to inform you of the fact that he has yet to win anything whatsoever and only performs adequatly on ladder. Now Suppy on the other hand.. | ||
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FetusThrower
United States50 Posts
, thanks for posting it. | ||
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Tosster
Poland299 Posts
Sorry, she don't. Maybe it will change after global finals? | ||
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Tosster
Poland299 Posts
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MiND.GaMeS
Germany218 Posts
In the past a ranking like this would have been way less attackable because you couldn't meassure a players success pointwise but these days things changed and people get points for every round they advance further in WCS. The WCS ranking system is very accurate itself when it comes to seperate good and bad players but i won't go into detail here. A small example for some players you ranked very doubtfully in my opinion: Snute, Happy, Vortix and Nerchio are all ahead of Grubby when Grubby is the only one who really managed to make some noise in this seasons WCS and will be one of only 3 foreigners, who made it into WCS S2 Finals (the other two are Scarlett and Naniwa) Not only are these 3 players the only 3 foreigners who made it to the S2-Finals, if look at the overall score, they are very accurately the top 3 foreigners when you actually compare points. Still you name 6 other players before even mentioning grubby which is a joke if you wanna make a good ranking. As said before i still think a ranking like you did is highly unproductive and not very viable because there is already a superior ranking system which is based on points for wins (WCS). The thing about the WCS standings is: At this moment TLO (2025) is ahead of grubby (1750)... BUT grubby gets 500 points just for making it to the finals, he doesn't even need to win a single game so after next week grubby will be in the top 16 overall (surpassing the retired stephano) with scarlett and naniwa doing the same. Everything i said is just a small example and i'm even tired of writing this small piece of text but i thought i wanted to give you some feedback on your very strange ranking. ____________ Conclusion: I think it's safe to say that the top 3 foreigners (at this very moment) are Naniwa, Scarlett and Grubby. While Scarlett and Nani are a bit seperated at the top 2, No. 3 (Grubby) is very closely followed by TLO i think. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On August 20 2013 17:58 Tosster wrote: Sorry, she don't. Maybe it will change after global finals? Scarlett should be on a solid 2nd but Naniwa is the number 1 foreigner right now. Only way to argue about that would be if you only looked at the last WCS season and then Grubby should be tied with Scarlett. | ||
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PerryHooter
Sweden268 Posts
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ErrantKnight
Switzerland186 Posts
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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
Goswser and Titan are underrated, Sase and Mana are overrated in that list. | ||
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Niejadek
United States13 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On August 20 2013 18:56 PerryHooter wrote: It should either say "westerner" instead of "foreigner", or jim and macsed should be pretty high up there if not at the top. hm i should probably do that for the next month. confusion every time^^ thanks for all the positive feedback. Yes, it remains to be the opinion of one community member for the most part, I'm just having fun doing those and i happen to get a lot of response on them. There are no "correct" rankings out there (not even aligulac - just look at iaguz this month (rank13 foreigner - no offense to him but NO)) and there probably never will be, so i keep doing those^^ If there is anyone out there with enough knowledge, time and passion to do his own ranking on a monthly basis and share it with me before my post, i would be pretty happy, but there doenst seem to be anyone willing to do that (you would have to do a ranking for the first 70 players and send it to me within the first 2 weeks of the month every time). | ||
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