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I recently watched an interesting video by Athene. Now I know what you guys are thinking. It's Athene. But amongst Athene's boyish character, there is a genuinely smart and great individual. How else would he be able to create the biggest troll in video game history?
I can't seem to find the video now, but basically what he was saying was that the most vocal population in the community usually becomes the status quo for the entire group. To try to explain this in a real context, when Destiny proclaimed that Starcraft 2 was going to die, for a brief amount of time it actually was dying. Players started proclaiming it's death, and it became a self fulfilling prophecy.
Which has inspired to spread some joy and love for the game. Everyone seems to be declaring how the game is dying or seem to have plent of "ideas" to help fix the game, but neglect to do the key things. In fact they seem to be doing the opposite! If a new player comes by any forum and sees "Ways to make the game better," "Why Sc2 is dying," or any of these titles, how likely are they to join in?
Meanwhile, let's say the community was writing things like "WCS now live! Tune in," "Effective ways to get better," articles that are supportive, and create a atmosphere of growth, wouldn't they be more inclined to join?
What of the reasons I started playing Brood War was not that it was popular. Hello no, when I started palying Brood War in 2006 it was far from popular. But what made me play and even stick around was the enormous amount of resources that was available to me. Not only the liquipedia, but back in those days people on TL actually seemed to give a shit! They actually tried to help me by watching replays and posting constructive posts.
No one even mentioned the game as dying, because no one cared! Because all that matters in the end is a community that simply loves the game! Regardless of whether a community has tournaments, high level play, or even replays! a community that loves and enjoys the game will survive.
And so this is somewhat of a plea to the community. Don't think Sc2 is dying, it's FAAAAR from dead. FARRRRR. Instead of writing how bad the balance is or what race is stupid, why not actually log-in and pay a few games? Why not just tune-in to your favourite stream? Make a sc2 webcomic, write up an article for others to enjoy.
So have your posts been outwaying the number of games your playing? Or even the streams you watch? Then maybe it's time to log-off Teamliquid and do the unthinkable: Play Starcraft 2
  
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What you say certainly makes sense, but I don't get why you titled the blog "How to Revive Starcraft 2", implying it's currently dead, while proclaiming the opposite in the blog itself. Of course the game is not "dead", in the sense that it's played by hundreds of thousand people on the planet. Also I think when people talk about SC2 dying, they often mean the relative decline of the competitive scene (number of tournaments, monopolization, being overshadowed by LoL etc.) not the casual (non-professional) player base.
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You cherry-picked a lot of false truths in your recollection of things.
For example:
No one even mentioned the game as dying, because no one cared!
Tons of people said it.
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SC II is not a dead game. Sure the viewership numbers are down, but if you recall WoL tournaments declined in viewer numbers too. People get bored of watching and playing. To play at a high level you have to have a lot of time to practice, which the majority of us do not have. But with that said, SC II is not dead, right now WCS Europe has about 50k people watching, those are pretty good numbers, considering the size of the player base. SC II doesn't have a large pool of players like LoL. But it isn't dead you will log on and you will see people playing and talking. Now if you want to talk about a dead game lets talk about Warcraft 3.
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So basically you saw a video by Athene, a very vocal guy who says that the most vocal people become the status quo. That is so wrong psychologically and sociologically, why is that your thesis? Why do you blindly accept that? Then you pick the fact that Destiny, a guy who was run out of pro starcraft because he wasn't good enough to play at that level and was enough of an asshole that people had serious issues with his BM, says SCII is dying, and then blindly accept that. No.
EDIT: Your entire post makes it seems like the only place you go on TL is the SCII general discussion and not the rest of the SCII forums where there is very little "sc2 is dying" and a lot more help going on.
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You guys are all right this blog is horrible. I'm horribly wrong.
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Too many people think the game is dieing, I laugh because 2 years ago the major events (DH, MLG ect) could barely get 10k concurrent viewers and yet I see them get 25k now.
E: hell, even currently WCS Eu's main stream has 51k viewers...
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SC2 isn't dying. It just has competition now. There's a difference :/
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How do you revive something that isn't dead?
I just want all people to move over to stage 5 and accept that SC2 will never be the biggest competitive game on the block again, but a niche.
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On August 11 2013 02:32 RoarMan wrote:
You guys are all right this blog is horrible. I'm horribly wrong.
get the press, he just acknowledged how wrong he was!
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I remember when Esports was still new and 2k viewers was amazing. It's funny watching people call a game that regularly pulls between 20-70k viewers a dead game. Play what you find fun and competitive.
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Just play sc2. i just did the biggest post ever in the general thread but just playing sc2 presents its own problem. Me and you sound the same. we watch and probably live and breath SC2, we arent going to go away and as long as the game runs ill play the god damn ai if everyone leaves and me and you are the only people online BUT anxiety is still there for many many people. they added unranked to combat this did it work, seems not . . its all i play now myself...
Heres my point.
People play a few games and lose all 5 say, those that lose a streak to the same thing, eg terran constant stream bio for me, they rage out, over time they quit cos they cant beat it and unless you are in a good clan you cant practice against it really cos every games different and people may not do the same stuff so that 1 game style has you and you cant beat it . . so why play?, Noones really giving you a clear cut answer(of which an answer cant be given but people dont give one anyway). 5 people in my last clan stopped playing becuase of a similar thing, opprotoss balls, mass thors, mass anything really. WTF? they professed how they played the game all their life and spent many a fully day on it . . leave? Why? what would cause you to sacrifice the time to just throw it away? Do you get what im saying the more you play the better you get the better you get the more you have to play . . this thought does not captivate the majority of the human race which want things and things NOW! LOL and dota seem way more popular becuase of this simple thing. People dont like to lose, people dont want to lose to learn cos of those ladder points but they want that symbol next to their name for some reason
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On August 11 2013 00:27 Torte de Lini wrote:You cherry-picked a lot of false truths in your recollection of things. For example: Tons of people said it.
Not in 2006. People only started saying that around 2010 and onward, with the release of SC2, the end of MSL, the transition of Proleague, and finally the translation of OSL, all occurring over 2 years. But now in 2013 the BW community is filled with optimism and fun, with people happy with all the events they have and trying to support or make more.
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On August 10 2013 23:59 RoarMan wrote:
Play Starcraft 2 No!
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Blizzard needs to make SC2 a more consistently entertaining game to watch
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How about we all play/watch whatever game we want? No insults, no pointless QQ, just pick your favourite game and cuddle it.
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