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The Situation I recently came back from Anthrocon, the largest furry convention in the world. I had been planning to attend this event ever since I booked the hotel the very first day they came on the market (March 1st). I had planned to stay with a few people - my boyfriend, his friend from Maryland, and his friend from Canada. The friend from Canada had to drop out due to financial obligations so we were left with 3 people.
May came around and a furry from the same state as me said he was looking for a room to stay in. I had met him once before and honestly he didn't give me a good first impression but he had a lot of money and I did not. As a means of reducing my rooming expenses, I invited him to come along.
He told me a few weeks later that he was intending on bringing his new girlfriend along. I told him that she would also have to incur her piece of the rooming expense pie just to make it fair among everyone that was going to be rooming. He said it sounded fair. However, the room that we booked had only 2 double beds (i.e. sleeping room for 4) so someone would have had to sleep on the floor.
The day of the convention comes around and when he arrives he's somewhat grumpy, enthused, barely even saying hi. We don't see him at all until he comes back in late and drunk, slightly buzzed, heading to bed. My friend had already assumed that he was going to be sleeping on the ground and he didn't make a big fuss over it, though I think he was just doing that to be polite and to avoid drama which I appreciate.
He snores. Not only does he snore, he snores so loudly that everyone but him couldn't sleep. I went to bed that night at 1AM and I woke up at 3AM to the sound of his constant snoring and was not able to fall back asleep for the remainder of the night. My boyfriend was laying next to me and gave me the look of "this is horrible". We got up around 4AM and took a walk to the river side and back just to talk and think about what to do.
When we arrived back at the room, we woke him up and politely told him that his snoring was keeping everyone awake and that there's no way we could possibly sleep with his obnoxious snoring. He tried a few times to position himself so he wouldn't snore, but to no avail - it would continue moments later.
At about 8AM after laying in bed for hours we decided that the rest of us should just go get some breakfast. An hour later we come back to the room and he's still sleeping, snoring away. After some talks at breakfast, I had already made up my mind. I told him that because he is ruining our convention experience (our first con nonetheless) that he needs to find rooming somewhere else. He did not even pay like everyone else did and I was the one who was footing the bill to begin with so I tasked myself with making this decision.
Overall I feel terrible because I know that I made it difficult for him, but in the long run I still stand by my decision.
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So TeamLiquid, what would you do in this situation? Do you think I acted too rashly?
What would you do?
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TL;DR Guy I hardly know rooms with us at a convention and snores keeping us up all night and has yet to pay us, also forcing your friend to sleep on the ground while he's in a bed. I kick him out. WWYD?
   
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you are even considering feeling bad about this decision? you acted just fine...
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On July 09 2013 03:07 nath wrote: you are even considering feeling bad about this decision? you acted just fine...
Yes because I am kicking someone out onto the streets in a place they are very unfamiliar with during a convention where they are supposed to be having fun and not looking around for a hotel (all the hotels were definitely booked)
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You should definitely receive the payment before letting someone share your hotel room, since it's someone you barely know.
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you should have gotten money up front from a stranger, but you are a huge unbelievable fuckface for booting someone you invited over fucking snoring. like, holy shit. id take your shit and hurl it out the fucking window as i left. what a fucking asshole. even if there were other places to stay, you invited them, and it isnt like snoring is a goddamn controllable thing
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On July 09 2013 03:37 QuanticHawk wrote: you should have gotten money up front from a stranger, but you are a huge unbelievable fuckface for booting someone you invited over fucking snoring. like, holy shit. id take your shit and hurl it out the fucking window as i left. what a fucking asshole. even if there were other places to stay, you invited them, and it isnt like snoring is a goddamn controllable thing did you read the whole thing? seemed much more reasonable than that to me.
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always carry army style earplugs when travelling: problem solved
but him sharing the room with you, and not telling you that he snores like a bulldozer is impolite enough to justify pretty much any action
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the op being too dumb to collect money from a total stranger up front does not make him a bad person in the slightest. it's a lame excuse to make her feel better about herself. if you are worried about getting shafted, either ask for it up front, don't invite strangers. she chose the coward's option
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i spend most my vactions in the alps, sleeping with up to 20 people in one room in mountain cabins, someone is snoring every night.
thank god someone invented earplugs..
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Well, you have two options in such a situation, one would be to buy earplugs (your hotel may provide these free of charge), and turn on the AC or fan or whatever while you sleep to drown out the snoring, the other would be arranging other accommodations. It's an unfortunate situation and a real pain in the butt, that's for sure. If I were you and really needed him to leave, I would check with other hotels in the area and try to find available, reasonably priced rooming, so you can at least let him know what his options are.
Don't take Hawk's comment too seriously, the guy should have told you that he snored when arranging to room with you, it drives me NUTS to find out the moment they fall asleep (has happened to me twice with coworkers on business trips). Ideally, he should have brought the ear plugs.
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yaedong would kick his snoring ass out!
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Sleep with her then kick her out.
I didn't actually read the blog but I assume my above advice could apply to most roommate issues so I feel pretty confident in it.
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Toughie. I must say I can't stand snoring at all (as in, I can't sleep at all and get mad as hell), but you still got yourself into this trouble (for financial reasons even durr). I'd say you screwed up, move on and next time don't make that mistake.
PS. I thought furries were people with an animal cosplay fetish?
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They are. And where is this guy's girlfriend at? You said he came with his girlfriend but don't mention kicking her out. So you're letting her stay? Awkward.
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earplugs?
Or just get drunk, it's not that bad if your drunk
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I agree with Qhawk. (Obviously the next time you do this you'll ask if someone snores etc.) I would have asked him to buy everyone earplugs and/or turn on music or TV.
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On July 09 2013 03:48 QuanticHawk wrote: the op being too dumb to collect money from a total stranger up front does not make him a bad person in the slightest. it's a lame excuse to make her feel better about herself. if you are worried about getting shafted, either ask for it up front, don't invite strangers. she chose the coward's option I feel like you are missing the point of the article. And I don't see the big problem I wouldn't sacrifice sleep and my experience at the convention so that some random dude (who already kinda pulled a dick move by unexpectedly bringing his gf along..) could just crash with me.
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On July 09 2013 04:05 Serejai wrote: They are. And where is this guy's girlfriend at? You said he came with his girlfriend but don't mention kicking her out. So you're letting her stay? Awkward.
Ok now I want pics.
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Yeah you are kind of the shitty person here
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Wow lol you kicked the poor guy out just because he was snoring.
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On July 09 2013 04:05 Serejai wrote: They are. And where is this guy's girlfriend at? You said he came with his girlfriend but don't mention kicking her out. So you're letting her stay? Awkward.
They are and i cant believe he/she openly admitted it lol. I suppose it is the internets, where everyone is anon untill otherwise.
Idk how i feel, on the one hand - fuck that guy he snored.
On the other hand - he actually tried to stop and didnt seem that assholish about it, im sure you could've come to a better arrangement then kicking him out on unfamiliar turf.
Like, he's far from home, nowhere to stay and its not looking good on finding somewhere either.
When u can just buy earplugs
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You guys can wear earplugs. When you room with other people you will always have to make compromises. Not asking for money upfront is your business but holy shit that is a dick move just kicking someone out when there's no place for them to stay in the surrounding X miles especially if he was depending on you for q place to stay
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If you agree to crash in a room with 4 other people then it's pretty predictable that there will be some noise from people snoring or getting up to go to go to the washroom or coming in and out drunk or whatever. Especially if some of the people are complete strangers. If you are expecting a pristine sleeping experience then get your own room.
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I read over the op again, and I think that overall, you conducted the entire situation very poorly. The random guy made a few mistakes as well. However, the entire issue could have been prevented just from your side alone.
There is no right or wrong on whether or not to kick him out. You have the power to make either decision, and either way would be legal as well. The decision you make is more of a reflection on your personality than anything else. Personally, I share a similar opinion with QuanticHawk and few of the other posters here. You chose to relieve 100% of the consequences on the random guy instead of yourself or finding a compromise. This isn't a very pleasant thing to do, but it's understandable since after a night of no sleep, it's hard to be pleasant.
The first time I roomed with strangers, I made the same mistake in not asking whether or not people snored, or any other conditions that might affect my quality of stay. Consequently, I got no sleep for the entire night, but instead of kicking him out, I found ways to cope with the noise for the rest of the stay. I'm still a positive acquaintance with the guy.
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On July 09 2013 03:56 mainerd wrote:Don't take Hawk's comment too seriously, the guy should have told you that he snored when arranging to room with you, it drives me NUTS to find out the moment they fall asleep (has happened to me twice with coworkers on business trips). Ideally, he should have brought the ear plugs.  yes, the proper response to not having ear plugs is to boot out a person on a whim, not go get ear plugs, or have them spend the five bucks to do it.
What kind of socially retarded bubble do you people live in?? Good lord.
On July 09 2013 04:45 Aveng3r wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 03:48 QuanticHawk wrote: the op being too dumb to collect money from a total stranger up front does not make him a bad person in the slightest. it's a lame excuse to make her feel better about herself. if you are worried about getting shafted, either ask for it up front, don't invite strangers. she chose the coward's option I feel like you are missing the point of the article. And I don't see the big problem I wouldn't sacrifice sleep and my experience at the convention so that some random dude (who already kinda pulled a dick move by unexpectedly bringing his gf along..) could just crash with me.
On July 09 2013 02:47 Butterednuts wrote: The Situation He told me a few weeks later that he was intending on bringing his new girlfriend along. I told him that she would also have to incur her piece of the rooming expense pie just to make it fair among everyone that was going to be rooming. He said it sounded fair. However, the room that we booked had only 2 double beds (i.e. sleeping room for 4) so someone would have had to sleep on the floor.
That is not unexpectly bringing along the girlfriend. He told the op. The op was too afraid of confrontation to say anything, and took the chickenshit way of absoliving themselves of guilt and responsibility.
you should update your tl;dr to: 'awkward furry dork with no sense of social norms boots person out for snoring because they were too scared to bring up grievences at an earlier time. how big of an asshole am i'
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I don't know whether you made the right decision or not, but I would never kick someone out for snoring. Anyway, please tell you friend he needs to see an otolaryngologist for snoring like that. It is not healthy.
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QuanticHawk, take it down a notch. You're being incredibly rude.
I don't think you should kick someone out for snoring... not matter how obnoxious. Get earplugs, and even take sleeping supplements if you think that would help...
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geez ppl come down,
OP asked for opinions, not to get shat on. Yeah its a communication problem. You couldve taken a less drastic course of action but those are your vacations after all he was just ''tagging'' along...
forget about that and have a nice stay.
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OP:
1. First and foremost, you should have made sure you were paid upfront, by everyone. That's most important. You don't need strangers sticking you with the final bill.
2. Once the snorer said he was going to bring his girlfriend, you should have told him that you needed to check to make sure everyone had enough room to sleep/ there were enough beds or cots. A lot of rooms allow for four comfortably on the beds, and possibly one cot for a fifth, but often times you need to make sure extra amenities are available for extra people. (The knowledge to check ahead of time generally comes with experience.) If five was going to be too cramped, then you'd need to tell that guy that only four could fit and three were already confirmed. At that point, it's up to him to decide to be the fourth (without his girlfriend) or to stay with his girlfriend elsewhere (leaving you with three in the room and a larger bill to pay, but that's life).
3. One downside to inviting strangers to stay with you is that you have to put up with all their annoying habits. This includes being messy, being dirty, and snoring. You shouldn't kick out a guest just because you forgot to consider the fact he might snore.
TL;DR- Make sure the snorer and his girlfriend are paying, as it was supposedly established he would. If he refuses to pay, kick his ass out because he's riding you and your friends for a free room. If he and his girlfriend do pay, then you're stuck with them.
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This has to be a joke. No way anyone but the most spoiled brat would kick someone out that they invited along with them. Especially over something like snoring.
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I've gotta say hawk's got a good point even if he's being a bit aggressive with it. He just...kicked that poor sonuvabitch out. It was "only" a communication problem and at this point I'm not sure anything could be done though. Ouch.
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Butterednuts. Teehee. That is all.
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England2657 Posts
You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it.
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On July 09 2013 05:01 ziggurat wrote: If you agree to crash in a room with 4 other people then it's pretty predictable that there will be some noise from people snoring or getting up to go to go to the washroom or coming in and out drunk or whatever. Especially if some of the people are complete strangers. If you are expecting a pristine sleeping experience then get your own room.
Exactly... During dreamhack summer I slept in a 2 person room with 4 more people, three of whom I hadn't met before. Guess what there was some snoring. I got over it. If I hadn't I would have gotten earphones earplugs or just stuffed some toilet paper into my ears. Also yah what about that guys gf? Btw don't take hawk too seriously, that's just the way he is :p
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How long is the convention? It can't be more than a few days, right? Maybe just suck it up; it's not like it's a permanent situation.
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Dear TL, today I learned what a furry convention is (and it sounds really weird to me, but who am I to judge).
About the conflict, I agree with the majority here that kicking somebody out of the room, when it had been previously arranged this way, and during an event where all other hotels are going to be full, is a dick move. Snoring happens, it's not controllable, and it's a risk you should have considered when taking a stranger along. Buy some earplugs/get drunk/deal with it would be my advise. Or at least find the guy alternative accommodation if you are going to kick him out. As it stands now, if he ends up sleeping in the street and something happens to him, you'd probably be liable..
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lol the solution to this is so easy, just drink a shitton with your friend, nothing will wake you, win win. You can't honestly tell someone to go because of his snoring. Also, maybe you're not such a terrible person when you're drunk.
May came around and a furry from the same state as me said he was looking for a room to stay in. I had met him once before and honestly he didn't give me a good first impression but he had a lot of money and I did not. As a means of reducing my rooming expenses, I invited him to come along.
So after booting his ass out for snoring you're sore about your plan for inviting someone along just for the money not working out because you were a total bitch?
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On July 09 2013 07:17 Flicky wrote: You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it.
You must have some crazy taste in porn.
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On July 09 2013 08:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 07:17 Flicky wrote: You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it. You must have some crazy taste in porn.
Did you not read the op or what.
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On July 09 2013 08:27 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 08:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 09 2013 07:17 Flicky wrote: You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it. You must have some crazy taste in porn. Did you not read the op or what. I seriously didnt get the joke until you said this.
lol
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United States42184 Posts
If you offer someone accommodation and there's an issue you don't kick them out until the terms of your initial offer have expired or they find somewhere else. Basic human decency.
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I hope the reverse happens to you and you get kicked out for something as fucking childish as this, miles from home and all the other hotels are booked. Besides, you're asking for it by going to a freaking furry convention(oh woo is me, my first experience at the freak convention was ruined because someone snored!)
Also to the idiot earlier who said some shit about OP asking for opinions, people are giving them, that shes a stupid childish brat. Which is different from us just randomly shitting on her, especially if she asked for it.
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On July 09 2013 08:27 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 08:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 09 2013 07:17 Flicky wrote: You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it. You must have some crazy taste in porn. Did you not read the op or what. ahahahahahahahahahah
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As someone who travels, shares rooms with many people (8 people in the room last tournament I went to), and snores (pretty loudly from what people tell me), this blog makes me pretty sad. Hopefully you're just a troll, because if not you are a really horrible person
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Money up front always.
And snoring isn't a controllable trait such as personality quirks, messiness, rudeness, etc... so lacking that compassion is kind of ridiculous. Outside of that, drowning out the snoring, or buying incredibly cheap ear plugs or having them supplied by the hotel is immensely easier and problem-solving, than kicking out someone without any accommodations.
It just seems incredibly petty, selfish and immature.
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Should make the snorer pay for the current room and find your own new accommodation.
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Honestly, I would only kick him out if there was somewhere else he could find to stay. Otherwise, it's a really dickish thing to do:/
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Lalalaland34486 Posts
Instead of kicking him out you should've talked to him and had a proper discussion about what options he had. Kicking him out was far too extreme too quickly.
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Kicking him out was a pretty bad move. Then again, I remember on a vacation to New York sleeping in the same room with my dad who is a terrible snorer. I got absolutely no sleep that trip. Sounds like your roommate was being inconsiderate in the other parts, but he probably wasn't bad enough to deserve getting kicked out.
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1) Don't room with strangers when you can't accept the possibility of them being somewhat different to a certain degree. That guy didn't shit in your sink or puked against the walls. He fucking snored.
2) Buy earplugs. Hell, if you walk to the reception of most hotels they have some in stock.
3) Listen to music while falling asleep. Headphones help.
4) Use toiletpaper instead of earplugs.
5) Sleep in shifts.
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On July 09 2013 03:48 QuanticHawk wrote: the op being too dumb to collect money from a total stranger up front does not make him a bad person in the slightest. it's a lame excuse to make her feel better about herself. if you are worried about getting shafted, either ask for it up front, don't invite strangers. she chose the coward's option Pretty much what I think. You guys are going really easy on the OP considering she kicked a guy out into a city he doesn't have any real understanding of and forcing him to fend for himself due to a ridiculously uncontrollable issue on his end and a possibly unobtrusive issue on the OP's end (snoring). If I got kicked out into an unfamiliar city with only the clothes on my back and the money in my account because I had a snoring fit one night, I would be incredibly pissed. Also, I thought you said you needed this guy and his gf's money to help pay, but you kicked him out immediately for snoring? I'm guessing you really didn't need this money.
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what a fucking idiot hahhaha
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Kaal approves of furries.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
This blog didn't disappoint. You're a dick - that's all.
I'm a snorer. Sometimes even a hardcore snorer and I know my g/f loves me, because she is able to sleep with me. Earplugs are often much appreciated for her but still. Kicking someone out, because he snores? WTF
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The real danger of this situation is that nobody is in control. The person who snores likely doesn't understand how bad it is and has no control over it. And lets be honest, most of us are not rational by hour 40 of being awake because of a sleep disturbance. I am generally a very gregarious fellow but I have had similar situations when traveling the CCG circuit and even I blew up a little. After traveling 2000 miles and spending thousands on travel/room/board/tickets/lost wages I am not going to sleep away the day's activities so basically I was awake for four days apart from passing out in my chair between rounds.
Snoring exists in a spectrum, as does sleep sensitivity. It is my belief that if you are in the extreme of either, very easily disturbed or a very loud chronic snorer, it is your obligation to be up front about it.
Basically the lesson I learned was to always have my own room when I travel. The second sleep is compromised, the entire trip is ruined.
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if the person is paying, I just think you cant kick him/her and getting the person's money because he snores. You can kick the person but not get the money, have some dignity please..
You are like sharing the room, deal with the conscequence of being with the stranger, snoring is not that bad to kick him out, if he is harming you thats the time you kick him out but don't get his money, he just does not forfiet the room since he is snoring. lol
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On July 09 2013 16:02 blahz0r wrote: Kaal approves of furries.
~50% or less is fine.
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I know that there are some nights when I am snoring. Thank god only sometimes, but it happens. The blog I would write if I were this guy would get more love than yours.
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On July 09 2013 04:05 Serejai wrote: They are. And where is this guy's girlfriend at? You said he came with his girlfriend but don't mention kicking her out. So you're letting her stay? Awkward.
They were together so by kicking him out, I was kicking her out by default.
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I find it hilarious that you found this tweet haha. It was one of the tweets I made super early in the morning.
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On July 09 2013 22:32 Butterednuts wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 04:05 Serejai wrote: They are. And where is this guy's girlfriend at? You said he came with his girlfriend but don't mention kicking her out. So you're letting her stay? Awkward. They were together so by kicking him out, I was kicking her out by default.
so you kicked someone out who paid
did you give her her money back?
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On July 10 2013 00:14 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 22:32 Butterednuts wrote:On July 09 2013 04:05 Serejai wrote: They are. And where is this guy's girlfriend at? You said he came with his girlfriend but don't mention kicking her out. So you're letting her stay? Awkward. They were together so by kicking him out, I was kicking her out by default. so you kicked someone out who paid did you give her her money back? I don't think they paid yet. She didn't collect the money upfront so I think she kicked them out before they were able to pay. Had they paid and then she kicked her out, this would be a totally different situation.
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He did not even pay like everyone else did I dont know if thats what he meant but this certainly does imply that his gf paid
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On July 10 2013 05:14 7mk wrote:I dont know if thats what he meant but this certainly does imply that his gf paid I understood it that the op kind of grouped the roommate and his girlfriend together, but thinking about it now, you could be right. I guess the op would have to answer this for us to know what happened.
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What happened to those two anyways? I looked on the Anthrocon forums and could find no information. There was a good chance of a thread like "Got kicked out of room, need a place to stay", but there wasn't anything. I assume that if they opted for a 5 person hotel room, then they were pretty short on cash and there was nowhere else available to stay. Did they pay full price at another hotel? Did they sleep on chairs overnight at the convention? Did they go with their animal nature and sleep in the woods?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:07 Chairman Ray wrote: What happened to those two anyways? I looked on the Anthrocon forums and could find no information. There was a good chance of a thread like "Got kicked out of room, need a place to stay", but there wasn't anything. I assume that if they opted for a 5 person hotel room, then they were pretty short on cash and there was nowhere else available to stay. Did they pay full price at another hotel? Did they sleep on chairs overnight at the convention? Did they go with their animal nature and sleep in the woods?
Super Internet Detective or Secret Furry?
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On July 10 2013 11:15 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 06:07 Chairman Ray wrote: What happened to those two anyways? I looked on the Anthrocon forums and could find no information. There was a good chance of a thread like "Got kicked out of room, need a place to stay", but there wasn't anything. I assume that if they opted for a 5 person hotel room, then they were pretty short on cash and there was nowhere else available to stay. Did they pay full price at another hotel? Did they sleep on chairs overnight at the convention? Did they go with their animal nature and sleep in the woods? Super Internet Detective or Secret Furry? 
The OP stated that they were there for Anthrocon, so naturally it's the first place I should look.
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Lalalaland34486 Posts
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I'm sorry but when you invite other people to sleep in the same room with you, you always have to consider the fact that some people might be snorer's
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On July 10 2013 06:07 Chairman Ray wrote: What happened to those two anyways? I looked on the Anthrocon forums and could find no information. There was a good chance of a thread like "Got kicked out of room, need a place to stay", but there wasn't anything. I assume that if they opted for a 5 person hotel room, then they were pretty short on cash and there was nowhere else available to stay. Did they pay full price at another hotel? Did they sleep on chairs overnight at the convention? Did they go with their animal nature and sleep in the woods?
I believe they roomed with another friend. I don't think it took them too long to find somewhere because I saw them at the convention 2 hours after they left. They were not short on cash. They both have nice careers that make plenty of money. They only had trouble finding a hotel because literally they were all booked the first day they were open to be reserved.
I never took they're money to begin with. No money was exchanged by them to begin with. I also didn't charge them for 1 night's stay considering how terrible I felt.
Also I'm a guy (gay). Funny to see everyone refer to me as "her".
On July 10 2013 05:14 7mk wrote:I dont know if thats what he meant but this certainly does imply that his gf paid
He intended to pay for her, so I did not get her share of the expenses either
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jeez why didnt you say they were rich and that you generously didn't charge them??? to think, we all misjudged you!
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That's a great smiley. im keeping it.
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You don't have to kick him out. every five minutes he snores. wake him up... yell at him... YOU'RE SNORING!!!! Throw pillows at him. he'll feel bad. he'll keep repositioning himself. he'll get up clear his throat really well... and hopefully eventually he'll stop snoring. If you're up. he should be up too.
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On July 11 2013 00:49 QuanticHawk wrote:jeez why didnt you say they were rich and that you generously didn't charge them??? to think, we all misjudged you! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IdESnvg.gif)
Where did I say I was rich? I could have paid the room myself, but if I could cut the cost in half, why wouldn't I?
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On July 12 2013 01:13 Butterednuts wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 00:49 QuanticHawk wrote:jeez why didnt you say they were rich and that you generously didn't charge them??? to think, we all misjudged you! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IdESnvg.gif) Where did I say I was rich? I could have paid the room myself, but if I could cut the cost in half, why wouldn't I?
Well, you could get someone really annoying. Like someone who snores or something.
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On July 12 2013 01:13 Butterednuts wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 00:49 QuanticHawk wrote:jeez why didnt you say they were rich and that you generously didn't charge them??? to think, we all misjudged you! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IdESnvg.gif) Where did I say I was rich? I could have paid the room myself, but if I could cut the cost in half, why wouldn't I? where did he say you said you were rich?
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On July 12 2013 01:56 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 01:13 Butterednuts wrote:On July 11 2013 00:49 QuanticHawk wrote:jeez why didnt you say they were rich and that you generously didn't charge them??? to think, we all misjudged you! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IdESnvg.gif) Where did I say I was rich? I could have paid the room myself, but if I could cut the cost in half, why wouldn't I? where did he say you said you were rich?
huurrrr reading error on my part.
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I think you made the mistake of not asking beforehand. Some people snore, you should ask up front if there are any issues you should be aware of before you invite someone that you don't know well to go to a convention with you. I don't think its unreasonable to kick him out, but I think you definitely take some of the blame for the situation.
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