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Who do you think whines more?

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woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
June 20 2013 11:15 GMT
#1
Which SC2 race whines more? Who do you think does QQ more?

This includes balance changes/patches, the race arsenal, race gameplay, mechanics etc.

Here are MY opinions:

I am betting Zerg but let the stats judge it. (there goes the poll below)

Why I think it is Zerg? Because they hate Terran and Protoss and even fellow Zerg.

I would have to admit Zerg would be my hardest race. This is based on my experience or because of my style of playing (army and workers are separate). Some or most people could have the same scenario as me, but then as for my answer, that's what you get for playing that race. You just need to man up and deal with it.

These are the type of players who are too lazy to think of better ways to improve and just whine because of X or because X had X so we have to have X too. They also think highly of themselves since the play "Zerg". Like they are more superior and shit. We macro hard and other races just cheese and all-in.

From a Zerg point of view, It is like, why do I need to spread my overlords and creep, inject larva and know when to make workers or army and other races can just make shit and destroy? Lots of them also dont know why it is important to flank (very impt for melee/short ranged) in fights while P and T can just always shoot and march straight up.

Again as for my advise to these people, suck it up and think of ways to adapt. Dont't just whine and cry for nerfs and buffs.

I would really like to have this poll with the comments as to why they choose their answer but I guess you can use the comments section for your explanation.

Poll: Which race whines more?

Zerg (39)
 
62%

Terran (17)
 
27%

Protoss (7)
 
11%

63 total votes

Your vote: Which race whines more?

(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Zerg



This is inevitable but let the bashing begin!


*
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
June 20 2013 11:17 GMT
#2
I've rarely seen such a racist thread.

All races whine equally!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46515 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 11:21:58
June 20 2013 11:19 GMT
#3
"As a player of Race X, I think that the other two races whine more than my race, and whenever my race does complain, it's completely justified."

Not sure how objective people would be in their responses...

Also, surely some whining about races or matchups might be justified if a certain race is actually performing statistically worse in certain areas? Surely balance discussion can be helpful too.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 20 2013 11:23 GMT
#4
What´s with the Random hate? We shouldn´t forget about the Randoms´ hate.
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
June 20 2013 11:27 GMT
#5
On June 20 2013 20:17 Passion wrote:
I've rarely seen such a racist thread.

All races whine equally!


LOL, actually I was about to include some racist reasons like I just hate terran because they are fucking imba, 50minerals for a shooting cheap us, tier 1, stimming bullshit but then whats the point?

Racism would always be there, it is part of reality and no races do not whine equally and I am sure of that.
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
June 20 2013 13:14 GMT
#6
Aka "Which race are you not?"
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
June 20 2013 13:27 GMT
#7
idunno, feels to me like everyone whines equally. Terran gets a lot of hate though. At least it feels like it. Idunno, I don't "discuss" balance.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 20 2013 14:16 GMT
#8
On June 20 2013 20:23 Daswollvieh wrote:
What´s with the Random hate? We shouldn´t forget about the Randoms´ hate.


"I have to learn 6 matchups while all my opponents only have to know 3, IMBALANCE"
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
June 20 2013 14:24 GMT
#9
On June 20 2013 22:27 KristofferAG wrote:
idunno, feels to me like everyone whines equally. Terran gets a lot of hate though. At least it feels like it. Idunno, I don't "discuss" balance.



Well the "race hate thread" should be a good new poll to make. As far as I can see it, it should be near this order:

Terran > Protoss > Random > Zerg

This would most like be because:

A. There are a lot of Terran players, players would often start playing terran ( campains and starter kits)

B. Terran is just "Easy" says everyone who hates Terran

C. Everyone hates colossus

D. *thinks* Random = cheese

D. Zerg is "hard" and im superior because I play zerg.

I pity these people(B,C,D), specially D.
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
June 20 2013 14:45 GMT
#10
My general impression is that terran is usually the "most hated" and that zerg is the "whiniest." Most of this is from early WoL release, where terran was overpowered and zerg was underpowered, and it just sort of cemented in the community from there (or at least in my mind).

I don't think there is a lot of truth in it, though.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
June 20 2013 15:55 GMT
#11
How does protoss not have more votes? You don't see a sad marine or a sad zergling fanclub do you? Or maybe that's why protoss has so few votes, there are so many sad zealots voting for the other races.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 20 2013 17:02 GMT
#12
On June 20 2013 23:45 HardlyNever wrote:
My general impression is that terran is usually the "most hated" and that zerg is the "whiniest." Most of this is from early WoL release, where terran was overpowered and zerg was underpowered, and it just sort of cemented in the community from there (or at least in my mind).

I don't think there is a lot of truth in it, though.


Wait, when was this?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 21 2013 05:41 GMT
#13
I think players with a poor mentality whine the most, but that could just be my crazy line of thinking.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 21 2013 06:12 GMT
#14
On June 21 2013 00:55 Luepert wrote:
How does protoss not have more votes? You don't see a sad marine or a sad zergling fanclub do you? Or maybe that's why protoss has so few votes, there are so many sad zealots voting for the other races.



Cause we at the Sad Zealot Fan Club use all of our energy to think up a new IMBA ALL-IN that makes players everywere rage! We don't gots time to balance whine when creating new all-ins!
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
datcirclejerk
Profile Joined June 2013
89 Posts
June 21 2013 08:33 GMT
#15
On June 20 2013 23:45 HardlyNever wrote:
My general impression is that terran is usually the "most hated" and that zerg is the "whiniest." Most of this is from early WoL release, where terran was overpowered and zerg was underpowered, and it just sort of cemented in the community from there (or at least in my mind).

I don't think there is a lot of truth in it, though.

This guy gets it right. Zerg whine used to be justified, and now it's just stuck in the communities' memory.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Schopenhauer
sweetbabyjesus
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark168 Posts
June 21 2013 09:43 GMT
#16
On June 21 2013 02:02 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 23:45 HardlyNever wrote:
My general impression is that terran is usually the "most hated" and that zerg is the "whiniest." Most of this is from early WoL release, where terran was overpowered and zerg was underpowered, and it just sort of cemented in the community from there (or at least in my mind).

I don't think there is a lot of truth in it, though.


Wait, when was this?


Around Code S season 1 probably. Holy shit, it was bad back then. Which makes it even more of a miracle that FD won.
Crabs
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
June 21 2013 14:59 GMT
#17
On June 20 2013 23:24 woreyour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 22:27 KristofferAG wrote:
idunno, feels to me like everyone whines equally. Terran gets a lot of hate though. At least it feels like it. Idunno, I don't "discuss" balance.



Well the "race hate thread" should be a good new poll to make. As far as I can see it, it should be near this order:

Terran > Protoss > Random > Zerg

This would most like be because:

A. There are a lot of Terran players, players would often start playing terran ( campains and starter kits)

B. Terran is just "Easy" says everyone who hates Terran

C. Everyone hates colossus

D. *thinks* Random = cheese

D. Zerg is "hard" and im superior because I play zerg.

I pity these people(B,C,D), specially D.

I thought people thought terran was the hardest, lots of pros do.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
June 21 2013 15:16 GMT
#18
I think Terrans whine the most because avilo is Terran
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 21 2013 15:24 GMT
#19
I am not sure how has the largest number of whiny players, but Terran seems to have the loudest whiners.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 21 2013 18:59 GMT
#20
On June 21 2013 17:33 datcirclejerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 23:45 HardlyNever wrote:
My general impression is that terran is usually the "most hated" and that zerg is the "whiniest." Most of this is from early WoL release, where terran was overpowered and zerg was underpowered, and it just sort of cemented in the community from there (or at least in my mind).

I don't think there is a lot of truth in it, though.

This guy gets it right. Zerg whine used to be justified, and now it's just stuck in the communities' memory.


You guys don't see a huge amount of irony in this? Zerg was never as underpowered as they claimed to be. Many buffs and nerfs later, it turns out they weren't by far the worst, but by far the best.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
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