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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 31 2013 22:56 GMT
#41
On May 31 2013 21:50 HereBeDragons wrote:
I use three different keyboard layouts for the three languages I use primarily (QWERTY for English, AZERTY for French, and Kedmanee for Thai). It gets really confusing sometimes, especially between QWERTY and AZERTY. Overall, I like AZERTY's utility characters, but I've never been able to completely switch over and not use QWERTY after using it for so long. I can't even imagine how hard it would be to change your keyboard layout completely.

Overall, I make more mistakes as I keep switching between languages, and it doesn't help much that I've never learned proper touch typing. I still glance at my keyboard from time to time.


oh that makes me realize that Dvorak is potentially great for Japanese because so many Japanese characters are 1 consonant + 1 vowel, which are often a right hand -> left hand sequence since all your vowels are on the left home row in Dvorak.
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
June 01 2013 16:16 GMT
#42
I've been using Dvorak for 5 years now (holy shit, I can't believe it's been that long). Funny thing is, I can touch-type on QWERTY as well, because I had to use my high-school's computers for the past 4 years. I absolutely prefer Dvorak over QWERTY in every aspect except for gaming (because most games have hotkeys set up for QWERTY keyboards). In terms of comfort, Dvorak completely outshines QWERTY. I rarely have to move my fingers far from the home row, which I love. As far as typing speed is concerned, I used to type 60 wpm on QWERTY and now can hit 90-100 wpm on Dvorak (oddly enough, I can still hit 60-70 wpm on QWERTY simply because I use it during school). The reason I switched to Dvorak is because my summer going into 8th grade I had pretty much nothing to do, and I talked to people on AIM quite a lot. I thought it would be fun just to try to learn the new layout, mainly because it gave me something to do. So I switched my keyboard config and I got a lot of practice talking to people on AIM, and after a month I could touch-type 40-50 wpm. Over the next few months I became faster and faster until I was totally proficient in Dvorak. One of the best things about learning it is that I was able to un-learn all my bad QWERTY habits. In QWERTY, I was a serious hunt-and-pecker, but since I tried learning Dvorak using a keyboard that was a physical QWERTY keyboard (I reassigned the keys to the Dvorak layout in Control Panel) I couldn't look at the keys even if I wanted to. It FORCED me to learn how to touch-type, a skill which I am really glad that I have now.

So if you can touch-type and do so fast on QWERTY, there is no real need to change other than comfort. But if you have a relatively low wpm and are not able to type without looking, I highly recommend learning Dvorak, as it will improve both.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 02 2013 00:01 GMT
#43
I gave it a try for a while; but having to type so slowly for many days made me want to gouge my eyes out. It was really hard to adjust. The rest of the world uses qwerty and I use others' computers often. It was honestly a big pain going "oh wait, hold on, let me change something.." any time I wanted to use someone's pc. So I stopped using dvorak everywhere, and only used it on my pc. Then my improvement pretty much stalled as a result. I actually dreaded typing on my pc. It sucked. Plus I type really quick and accurate with qwerty, my fingers are really strong so I don't have any issues with that, so there's just no benefit to me personally. And, as I understood at the time, any health and speed benefits are questionable at best. So I switched back.

But hey, if it works for you, great! Good on ya. Just wanted to share my experience
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
June 03 2013 19:22 GMT
#44
I'm happy using QWERTY,
Having a constant WPM of ~140 with high accuracy
Have a nice day ;)
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