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Sayle has a very effortless and smooth casting style which is an easy listen. Even with the best capture equipment, neither you nor Tasteless will ever have the voice to pull off the same thing. What you must do is convince the listener that you're deeply involved in what you cast and convey enthusiasm. Tricking listeners is among the hardest things you can do in casting and comes only with expertise and experience, so that's not where you should start.
I see no reason why you should have to "trick" your listeners.
Anyone relying on community feedback to improve is destined to fail.
Not that I disagree but I would love to hear you expound some on why you feel this is so.
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Bisutopia19316 Posts
On April 21 2013 02:01 ninazerg wrote:
Haha, the community actually just sucks in the fact that they will do whatever feels good at that moment in time. The amount of self-sabotage that the Teamliquid BroodWar community goes through on a regular basis is bewildering. I guess that doesn't really help you much, though.
I watched some of your SSL casts and they were good. I don't even care for the SSL that much, but after I talked to you that one day, I was like "Hey, he's pretty cool." and just watched the broadcast because you were commentating.
Well the post above yours is a damn good one at least lol. I don't want people to think I'm on a crusade or something. People have to realize we only have each other to talk too. There is literally no one outside of Starcraft that can understand or comprehend us if we have issues. That's why I'm posting this here. I never like to deal with adversity on my own and so in this situation I'd rather be open with how my feelings are. But I do agree there is a huge level of animosity that our group of people go through. It's why I slept on Brood War for 2012. Emotions were way too intense among here back then but it's come such a long way now at least I'd like to believe it has.
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There's two or three issues here and perhaps the biggest one is marketing. Sayle's marketing strategy (it may not be a conscious one) is that because of the vast amounts of effort he put into casting foreign Brood War pre-PL, he gained a lot of exposure. Once he started his PL casts he had tuned his craft enough that he not only was well-known enough that people would watch him, but he gained more listeners who weren't turned away by a noobie caster. Now, YOU need your own marketing strategy, as the current one of "cast SSL at the same time as Sayle" clearly won't work if you're trying to gain viewers.
That brings us into the second issue, which is casting skill. It takes a lot of practice to become a decent caster, and there are a lot of other casters out there with more experience than you. Three months of casting once (maybe more, correct me if I'm wrong) a week but not every week is not enough for most people to get enough skill to be considered a good caster. I haven't really watched your casts as I prefer the Korean ones so I won't say too much here but chances are you're simply not very good at casting yet, so it is no surprise that others get more viewers.
And I had another point but I forget what it was. I know someone else quit casting because of essentially this same exact problem, and in a community as small as the foreign Brood War one, it's going to be hard for you to directly compete with the more well-known casters.
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there is not magic.hard work pay off.
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I don't know if you remember but Sayle wasn't really the best of casters when he started. You could tell that he really didn't know all that much about the game, and his insight really wasn't anything special. He got better.
On April 21 2013 02:01 ninazerg wrote:
Haha, the community actually just sucks in the fact that they will do whatever feels good at that moment in time. The amount of self-sabotage that the Teamliquid BroodWar community goes through on a regular basis is bewildering. I guess that doesn't really help you much, though.
Though I do question the motive of posting something like this given your history, I agree. A lot of the pain that foreign BW goes through is self-inflicted. But what can you expect, given the circumstances?
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you are right, there is no room for the new.
thats why you have to cast long enough to not be new anymore.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
Sayle is killing ESPORTS.
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Co-cast with Sayle and you are half-way the red carpet!
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do it for yourself and not others, it's the only way.
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Nuke aka nukethestars is also one of the guys who manages to rise to the top from solo casting but he did take a long time to be where he is and he is naturally entertaining and crazy guy that is why most of the people like nukes casting.
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On April 21 2013 18:29 Sawamura wrote:
Nuke aka nukethestars is also one of the guys who manages to rise to the top from solo casting but he did take a long time to be where he is and he is naturally entertaining and crazy guy that is why most of the people like nukes casting.
not really
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Bisutopia19316 Posts
I want to thank you all for posting here or sending me PM's. I am over that morning funk and have found new strength to stick to it. I promise I will bring you new and original content that will find me a place in this journey we all are partaking in. I do not know if my new casting project will be available before the next TLS, but it will be worth the work and wait.
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