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Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 23:44:43
April 12 2013 23:44 GMT
#1
Back in 2010, a silver league protoss version of myself wrote this blog

Between that blog and today, I switched races a million times, tried the dumbest "builds', had serious ladder anxiety, barely played any games, or not at all for months. But I was never able to completely quit, I always felt something missing when I tried other games, and before long I would feel the desire to play starcraft again. I love watching high level play and ive come to love playing myself as well.

Today I got this:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Yes, I know its easier in HotS. Yes, I'm still very bad at this game. But this marks the first time I actually managed to reach a goal i set myself in sc2 (getting promoted before the end of this season). It makes me think theres still hope. I think the main difference between now and 2010 is that I no longer fear losing and no longer blame anyone but myself for my losses.

I still have a long way to go on my way to become a decent player, but I'll walk it gladly.


***
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10149 Posts
April 12 2013 23:50 GMT
#2
first thing that i thought about when i saw "worth it" was some stupid league of legends dive or gamble xD

CONGRATZ!!!! :D WORTH!
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 13 2013 00:07 GMT
#3
Congratulations!!!!

Getting that league promotion is such a sweet thing, especially to masters !
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Treehead
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
999 Posts
April 13 2013 00:56 GMT
#4
Congrats man! Nothing makes for a better evening than getting promoted! .... well, almost nothing.
Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
April 13 2013 00:57 GMT
#5
masters lol

User was temp banned for this post.
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Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
April 13 2013 03:30 GMT
#6
Huge congrats man! Keep fighting!
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 04:07:02
April 13 2013 03:37 GMT
#7
I feel like my APM and mental multitasking is way too slow to ever approach masters. Its strange, I used to be platinum 8 seasons in a row for zerg. I barely played at all, just the placement matches. Now in HotS, I'm a silver league terran...and its SO HARD. Its crazy how much more work it is when I have to worry about building placement. Just wondering, were you also really slow when you started? Did you get faster? Or would you say an average APM can get you to masters?

Edit: Oh yeah, congratulations. You must feel proud!
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 13 2013 03:42 GMT
#8
Gratzzzzz!!!!!:D
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DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
April 13 2013 04:08 GMT
#9
Congratulations! In my opinion, that league promotion screen (especially to Masters) is one of the coolest things I will ever see. Good job!
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yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
April 13 2013 04:22 GMT
#10
Grats! Hopefully I get there soon :D
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 13 2013 04:28 GMT
#11
On April 13 2013 12:37 radscorpion9 wrote:
I feel like my APM and mental multitasking is way too slow to ever approach masters. Its strange, I used to be platinum 8 seasons in a row for zerg. I barely played at all, just the placement matches. Now in HotS, I'm a silver league terran...and its SO HARD. Its crazy how much more work it is when I have to worry about building placement. Just wondering, were you also really slow when you started? Did you get faster? Or would you say an average APM can get you to masters?

Edit: Oh yeah, congratulations. You must feel proud!

APM is overated. Plain and simple. Unless you mean that you still have troubles finding the hotkeys and their shortcuts or you're playing with a slow mouse or slow scroll or anything.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
April 13 2013 06:14 GMT
#12
i admire your atittude. if it took me 2 years to get to masters i would feel ashamed xD
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 13 2013 08:35 GMT
#13
On April 13 2013 12:37 radscorpion9 wrote:
I feel like my APM and mental multitasking is way too slow to ever approach masters. Its strange, I used to be platinum 8 seasons in a row for zerg. I barely played at all, just the placement matches. Now in HotS, I'm a silver league terran...and its SO HARD. Its crazy how much more work it is when I have to worry about building placement. Just wondering, were you also really slow when you started? Did you get faster? Or would you say an average APM can get you to masters?

Edit: Oh yeah, congratulations. You must feel proud!


APM comes with practice, its not something you magically are born with.

Starcraft is hard
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
April 13 2013 11:10 GMT
#14
Worth.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 13:00:15
April 13 2013 12:59 GMT
#15
On April 13 2013 13:28 RaiZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 12:37 radscorpion9 wrote:
I feel like my APM and mental multitasking is way too slow to ever approach masters. Its strange, I used to be platinum 8 seasons in a row for zerg. I barely played at all, just the placement matches. Now in HotS, I'm a silver league terran...and its SO HARD. Its crazy how much more work it is when I have to worry about building placement. Just wondering, were you also really slow when you started? Did you get faster? Or would you say an average APM can get you to masters?

Edit: Oh yeah, congratulations. You must feel proud!

APM is overated. Plain and simple. Unless you mean that you still have troubles finding the hotkeys and their shortcuts or you're playing with a slow mouse or slow scroll or anything.


This is the mantra of someone who will eventually stagnate in this game.

Congrats on masters, keep pushing that envelope.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
April 13 2013 13:18 GMT
#16
play broodwar if you wanna boost your apm, if you don't already, learn the game, play a solid 10-20 games. Come back to sc2, and you'll be like "wtf am i suppose be doing? i'm not clicking enough".
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 14:19:44
April 13 2013 13:53 GMT
#17
On April 13 2013 12:37 radscorpion9 wrote:
I feel like my APM and mental multitasking is way too slow to ever approach masters. Its strange, I used to be platinum 8 seasons in a row for zerg. I barely played at all, just the placement matches. Now in HotS, I'm a silver league terran...and its SO HARD. Its crazy how much more work it is when I have to worry about building placement. Just wondering, were you also really slow when you started? Did you get faster? Or would you say an average APM can get you to masters?

Edit: Oh yeah, congratulations. You must feel proud!


Yes, I believe I was very slow when starting out, sc2 was my first RTS. And tbh, I'm still rather slow, I average around 100 EAPM (effective apm), which is quite low, at least for terran. But I dont think you need to worry about APM for now, just focus on solid fundamentals, like constant production and not getting supply blocked. That really is the most important thing by far if you want to improve. A lot of games I won just because I was able to outproduce my opponents, and thus have a bigger army.

In the end, unless youre like super talented at RTS, you will have to put in the hours if you want to get better. I played about 200 games this season, more than ive ever played within a single season. No matter what level you are, if you sit down and seriously focus on improving your play, you will definitely see results, sooner or later.

On April 13 2013 15:14 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:
i admire your atittude. if it took me 2 years to get to masters i would feel ashamed xD


Yeah, maybe i should be a bit ashamed, considering ive been playing this game for almost 3 years. But as i hinted in the OP i didnt play for long periods of time, or just like three games a week, and only just started really playing the game, instead of just watching streams etc
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
April 13 2013 17:41 GMT
#18
hmm that's interesting. So I guess it is possible to raise your APM a little. Its just because I look at the things demuslim does when he plays, and I'm not sure if my body/brain are physically capable of doing things that quickly, even if I practice. Like I'm not sure if there are fundamental biological limitations or whether this can be changed if you just try hard enough, which is why I was interested in people's personal experiences to see whats possible.

I guess I also have average APM, so in theory I should be able to get there, and maybe increase my speed a little. I'm also very interested in SC2 just because it might help me think faster when I'm doing other things while still having some fun.

Anyway that's good to hear, going to play a few games now
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