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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 19:02:54
March 18 2013 11:06 GMT
#41
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 18 2013 11:13 GMT
#42
From reading your blogs I've gotten the feeling you put all your passion and heart into pro gaming, to see you now retire feels really sad, but understandable. I wish you the best of luck Carlo, and I hope that you can find something worthy of pouring your heart into, just as you did with BW, I'm sure with your passion and dedication you can succeed in anything.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Viking182
Profile Joined February 2012
Italy27 Posts
March 18 2013 11:17 GMT
#43
It was a nice feeling to think during the sc2 competition : This player (Cloud) it's Italian! ty alot (: !
I wish you the best in whatever you decede to do!
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
March 18 2013 11:20 GMT
#44
Sounds like a good decision, best of luck in whatever you decide to get into next.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Hens
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany288 Posts
March 18 2013 11:27 GMT
#45
All the best for your future Cloud.
denlillemand
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark15 Posts
March 18 2013 11:27 GMT
#46
it's funny - i come alot on reddit/r/starcraft, and alot of them hate you quite alot - and i was trying to explain to them, that they should apriciate a guy saying it like it is - but yeah, just keep being blunt about things, it's a rly good quality - good luck.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 10:08:43
March 18 2013 11:28 GMT
#47
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 18 2013 11:28 GMT
#48
Good luck to you ClouD. Really liked your snarkiness :D
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
March 18 2013 11:28 GMT
#49
GG Cloud, it's been an honour having you in BW and in SC2. Good luck with the real life and all that, adieu!
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
March 18 2013 11:30 GMT
#50
good luck cloud!
England will fight to the last American
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
March 18 2013 11:31 GMT
#51
On March 18 2013 17:01 aTnClouD wrote:
I know very well within myself I could stand above any non korean progamer if I put enough dedication into it [..]


Dude, that's what im thinking about myself all the time too!
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 11:56:10
March 18 2013 11:33 GMT
#52
On March 18 2013 20:06 Inori wrote:
So, you retire exactly one month after you say that most of the protoss are clueless, including Huk and Mana, telling fans that disagree that they're nobody?

Nice timing!


exactly my thoughts.

I don't care if he's gone or not, he kept sayin that these are bad players with bad mechanics, but loosing to GoOdy over and over again just shows me that he has in fact no clue what he was talking about. I bet Korean Pros would laugh at his mechanics when they see him playing StarCraft BW / StarCraft 2.
ClouD never achieved anything big or even constantly winning anything, sorry ClouD, you're not a loss for me or atleast in my eyes for the community.

"I know very well within myself I could stand above any non korean progamer if I put enough dedication into it."

This attitude you have is what always annoyed me about you, because you always showed exactly the opposite. Sure, you believe if you only put more dedication, you'd have show it, but IMO you're deluded and the sooner you understand the better for you.


Exactly


But for your real life, keep on fighting like you did in your Broodwar days. That's pretty much all I've to say
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 18 2013 11:34 GMT
#53
good luck with whatever you will do next Cloud, you will be missed !
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
March 18 2013 11:38 GMT
#54
On March 18 2013 20:33 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 20:06 Inori wrote:
So, you retire exactly one month after you say that most of the protoss are clueless, including Huk and Mana, telling fans that disagree that they're nobody?

Nice timing!


exactly my thoughts.

I don't care if he has gone or not, he kept sayin that these are bad players with bad mechanics, but loosing to GoOdy over and over again just shows me that he has in face no clue what he was talking about. I bet Korean Pros would laugh at his mechanics when they see him playing StarCraft BW / StarCraft 2.
ClouD never achieved anything big or even constantly winning anything, sorry ClouD, you're not a loss for me or atleast in my eyes for the community.

Show nested quote +
"I know very well within myself I could stand above any non korean progamer if I put enough dedication into it."

This attitude you have is what always annoyed me about you, because you always showed exactly the opposite. Sure, you believe if you only put more dedication, you'd have show it, but IMO you're deluded and the sooner you understand the better for you.


Exactly


But for your real life, keep on fighting like you did in your Broodwar days. That's pretty much all I've to say


To me it sounds more like he switched to protoss, realized that all of the stuff he ever said was bullshit, and deep down realized how ashamed he is because of that... and then he quit.

I liked cloud for his bluntness, but the amount of bullshit was strong in this one, to say the least.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
March 18 2013 11:38 GMT
#55
so long, cloud, best of luck to you

you were the only terran who told things as they were without giving a single fuck
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 11:45:26
March 18 2013 11:40 GMT
#56
On March 18 2013 20:38 SKYFISH_ wrote:
you were the only terran who told things as they were without giving a single fuck

I agree, it was always interesting and funny to read what he thinked.

Sad but wise decision. You were my favorite foreigner protoss player on Brood War :p.
Good luck !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
yellu
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria33 Posts
March 18 2013 11:43 GMT
#57
Goodbye Carlo,
you are always an inspiration for me. I like your play, your character, your blogs (lol).
Thank you for everything you have done!
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
March 18 2013 11:46 GMT
#58
1. You're Protoss in SC1 which doesn't mean much
2. If SC2 is so random how come Flash was eating foreigners for breakfast in MLG.
3. Goodbye
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 18 2013 11:47 GMT
#59
Meh Carlo. You will be missed ! But as a Broodwar player you know that you simply cannot retire the game :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
AbstractSC
Profile Joined April 2012
Greece28 Posts
March 18 2013 11:48 GMT
#60
Well, the same way you gave us advice, I'd just like to give some advice back, in the best possible way.

I know very well within myself I could stand above any non korean progamer if I put enough dedication into it.


A lot of times in life, when you express an opinion, what you say can be equally important, as to HOW you say it. Even if what you're trying to communicate, has the best intentions, it's amazing how differently people respond when you actually express an opinion in such a way that shows no cockiness or personal ego. You probably already know that, and I'm not trying to bash you, and I know your actually giving us advice on that topic, but your comment above shows cockiness and ego, and perhaps you don't feel that way, but that's what your communicating. Also, a ton of foreigners can probably make the same statement and be more convincing... no offense.

Honestly to me, used to such a competitive game as Starcraft, it felt more like playing poker rather than a real time strategy game.


Results so far in the Starcraft II era, for sure don't show that it's a luck based game. Yeah... sure there's luck. No one can deny that. But I can confidently say it's not even close to how much luck based is poker. And honestly you won't find almost any sport out there that doesn't have at least some luck involved.

It's easy to get caught in the flow of what people think and their judgement and I ask the people here to think a bit more carefully before judging someone you don't know,


I think that should be advice both to us and to yourself, cause you have been bad mannered yourself in the past. And how do I know this? We've played a lot on the ladder and you weren't that nice to me...

Anyway I could point out a couple more things, but I'll end on a good note. Good Luck in whatever you do and Have Fun doing it.
"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die."-Sima Yi
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